Train-Sim.Com
MSTS Engine And Livery Skinning

Ghosting Glazing

Started by CARex 8 posts 4 min read

Notice to all visitors and members of the Train-Sim.Com message forums:
If you plan on using a signature banner in your posts, we would like to remind you that there is a maximum size for banners. That maximum is 450 pixels wide by 120 pixels high, and not to exceed 25k. Your compliance is appreciated. FORUM RULES Problems? There are two common reasons for problems with logging in and posting messages. The first is that you are running a firewall that prevents your messages from being sent to the server. The other is that you have cookies disabled; the DCForum software requires cookies to work properly.

Previous Topic | Next Topic

Printer-friendly copy Email this topic to a friend

Reading Topic #6060

CARexMember since Jul-5-03 · 191 posts

Ghosting Glazing – image 1

Forum,The NHRR 8600 series of Pullman coaches had vestibules at both ends of the car. The existing model does not. Copying the existing vestibule, to the other end of the car…, simple enough. Deleting the two un-needed windows…, still simple. Adjusting the Alpha channel regarding the deleted windows and provide for the new vestibule door window…, also simple.However, in viewing the end result…, the deleted windows are trying to re-appear. Obviously something else needs to be done.What pray tell?Thnx, Bob (Credit:
Reskin of ESE Passenger Cars into NH 8600 Series Cars by Verne Horton of TA.)

Ghosting Glazing – image 2

Attachments
Ghosting Glazing – image 3
http://www.train-sim.com/dcforum/User_files/416387ee2dce64ef.jpg

Alert | IP

Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

RE: Ghosting Glazing...,, KeltikSylk, Oct-06-04, 10:38 AM, (1) RE: Ghosting Glazing...,, pwillard, Oct-06-04, 05:44 PM, (2) RE: Ghosting Glazing...,, Jonatan, Oct-06-04, 06:29 PM, (3) RE: Ghosting Glazing...,, chucksc, Oct-06-04, 10:35 PM, (4) RE: Ghosting Glazing...,, CARex, Oct-06-04, 11:30 PM, (5) RE: Ghosting Glazing...,, chucksc, Oct-07-04, 05:51 PM, (6) RE: Ghosting Glazing...,, CARex, Oct-07-04, 10:47 PM, (7)

Conferences | Topics | Previous Topic | Next Topic

KeltikSylkCharter Member · 1193 posts

RE: Ghosting Glazing...,

Something on the interior view?
Looks like another poly in the same area, as if there were two polys facing the same direction, either on the same plane or very close.Frank MusickMoving America into the 19th Century!
Ghosting Glazing – image 4
www.kelticsylk.com

Alert | IP

Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

JonatanCharter Member · 2235 posts

RE: Ghosting Glazing...,

Ghosting Glazing – image 7

I think that the ones who did it (TA?) added the glass as a separate part from the model as not to ruin the texture with alpha channels and instead use another texture specifically for the alpha. I could be wrong though.../JonatanSteam rules!
Ghosting Glazing – image 8 Ghosting Glazing – image 9 Ghosting Glazing – image 10 Ghosting Glazing – image 11
Train gifs from Dans Railroad Gif RoundhouseNever trust computers. If you do, they will betray you.I'm the steam freak, ph34r me!!

My E-mail jonatan.gronoset@telia.com

Alert | IP

Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

chuckscCharter Member · 5109 posts

RE: Ghosting Glazing...,

Hang tight as we are currently testing some 8600 cars built from the ground up by our own Phil Moberg....
We're trying to get them ready to go with the I-5.....BTW, I knew the ESE reskins were not 100% accurate as far as NH is concerned (I grew up on the NH and several of Mom's cousins worked for the railroad).... But they were light years ahead of everything else available at that time and our friend Vern Horton agreed to repaint them into 8600s for us so we had something to run with our EP5 and Alco PAs..... Even after all this time they still look pretty good.... Say what you will the boys at TA were extremely good at what they did.....Chuck Schneider
Chief Cook, Bottle Washer and (Virtual) CEOGhosting Glazing – image 12

Alert | IP

Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

CARexMember since Jul-5-03 · 191 posts

RE: Ghosting Glazing...,

Ghosting Glazing – image 13

Pete, Frank, Jonatan, Thanx for your input.Yes, the glazing seems to be a separate ace. Two ace files actually. I haven’t exactly figured out how they work in combination. It seems that one is for inside looking out and the other…, outside looking in. More than likely I’m wrong on this. In any event I tried all sorts of combination with the ace files. With Alpha, without, with texture, without…, replaced texture with NH Red…., nothing worked. Ghosting still appeared with every attempt.I’ve pretty much come to the conclusion that the ‘window opening’ is in the model proper. Therefore, not holding texture as it should. The density of the ghosting changes with various point of view. Course I could be wrong…, have been before.Chuck,

Thanx too for your input. I’ll be looking forward to your 8600 series. And I didn’t mean to sound critical of the TA ESE repaints. I had recently picked up a copy of the “NH Color Guide...” by Messer’s Sweetland and Horsley and notice some subtle differences. So I thought I’d try my hand at getting them a bit more prototypical I guess I’ll just modify as best I can till I become more proficient. And yes, the TA bunch are quite good at what they do. Once again, most appreciative.

Ghosting Glazing – image 14

Alert | IP

Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

CARexMember since Jul-5-03 · 191 posts

RE: Ghosting Glazing...,

Ghosting Glazing – image 16

Chuck,Those look great!!
Don’t know how I missed that posting. I usually zero right in on anything New Haven.Can’t wait to get those into my ‘McGinnis Paint Shed!!’ When are they going to roll-out?? Thanx,
Bob

Ghosting Glazing – image 17

Alert | IP


[ Home | MSTS Forum | MSTS FAQ | How To... | File Library ] Copyright © 2004 by Nels Anderson. All Rights Reserved.

Restored from the Train-Sim.Com archive, captured October 23, 2004. About this archive.