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IcyFireCharter Member · 2827 postsSep 20, 2003 6:12 AM

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How in the hell am i supposed to make a respectable looking unit when msts insists on distorting my weathering? *RANT* Weathering & Color distortion – image 2 Im seriously fed up with this sims lack of proper 32 bit colorsMost worthless color support i have ever seen Its disgusting. From this day on, Any YLW or TKW works coming from me will have NO weathering at all! factory fresh! Thanks Kuju! Loving every second of your big infested, low budget, all you can eat crash buffet of distorted carnival jokes of a train sim!

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RE: *RANT* Weathering & Color distortion, cyberjim, Sep-20-03, 03:37 AM, (1) RE: *RANT* Weathering & Color distortion, Hack, Sep-20-03, 05:41 AM, (2) RE: *RANT* Weathering & Color distortion, Thunderbolt3985, Sep-20-03, 11:14 AM, (3) RE: *RANT* Weathering & Color distortion, IcyFire, Sep-20-03, 12:21 PM, (4) RE: *RANT* Weathering & Color distortion, GMOF3A, Sep-20-03, 12:52 PM, (5) RE: *RANT* Weathering & Color distortion, GaryH2, Sep-20-03, 04:41 PM, (6) RE: *RANT* Weathering & Color distortion, lnghairedwizard, Sep-20-03, 04:45 PM, (7) RE: *RANT* Weathering & Color distortion, IcyFire, Sep-20-03, 07:42 PM, (8) RE: *RANT* Weathering & Color distortion, GaryH2, Sep-23-03, 07:18 PM, (11) RE: *RANT* Weathering & Color distortion, IcyFire, Sep-23-03, 07:25 PM, (12) RE: *RANT* Weathering & Color distortion, Stooopid_person, Sep-21-03, 04:03 AM, (9) RE: *RANT* Weathering & Color distortion, IcyFire, Sep-21-03, 07:35 AM, (10)

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cyberjimMember since Jun-6-03 · 277 postsSep 20, 2003 7:37 AM

RE: RANT Weathering & Color distortion

Well I guess you'll have to lower your standards and try it in 8,16, or 24 bit color then or try you're hand at multiple layers. All you can do somerimes is sit back and laugh at the sim, do what you can, and move on to something else!! Its what I do!! Jim

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HackCharter Member · 2820 postsSep 20, 2003 9:41 AM

RE: RANT Weathering & Color distortion

Bad use of colors, yes, but you could also add some noise and reduce the visual artifacts.Cheers!
Marc - 3DTrains
http://www.3dtrains.com Pro Series SuperPacks

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Thunderbolt3985Member since Apr-10-03 · 253 postsSep 20, 2003 3:14 PM

RE: RANT Weathering & Color distortion

Look out for MSTS 2!

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You can't miss it. It's right next to the train.
MTA Going your way-the safe way

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IcyFireCharter Member · 2827 postsSep 20, 2003 4:21 PM

RE: RANT Weathering & Color distortion

Well I'm gonna try again, I was pretty po'ed last night when i posted that, But I still stick by what i said If all else fails, I'll out source them to a weathering expert to do

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GMOF3ACharter Member · 1358 postsSep 20, 2003 4:52 PM

RE: RANT Weathering & Color distortion

Hey Shawn..I hear ya!
I'm just happy to see KUJO gone from this thing.I really hope M$ is listening this time..and gets this MSTS2 right!

Paul Fowler...
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GaryH2Charter Member · 375 postsSep 20, 2003 8:41 PM

RE: RANT Weathering & Color distortion

I hear you too Shawn. I ran into the same thing on my Amtrak 777. I didn't think it was one of the best weathering jobs but I thought it was ok and didn't want to drag on the release of the unit. I'm having the same issue wit my upcoming Reading RS3s.I'll try the issue with the noise and layering on my RS3s. I already tried the layering at different % and that did not prodce acceptable results IMHO.GH

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lnghairedwizardCharter Member · 1650 postsSep 20, 2003 8:45 PM

RE: RANT Weathering & Color distortion

Hey, shawn...I feel your pain....I had similar problem on some tankcar reskins.....I had a beautiful gradient going ..look great on the acefile itself...but looked like sh*t in the sim. However when I did the desoft 86'boxcar reskins...I was able to do some weathering on them and it looks fine (go figure)...could it be releated to texture size?...the dekosoft cars were 1024x1024....or maybe a mipmapping issue?....I wonder.How did you go about putting that weathering on? airbrush in psp or photoshop? maybe you could try lowering the transparency on the weathering layers?If you want...send me a copy of the model and texture (without weathering) and let me screw around withit....Ill use the same techniques I did on the 86' boxcars and see if I can't find a solution or common denominator that causes this problem.Longhairedwizardbbzak@msn.com

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IcyFireCharter Member · 2827 postsSep 20, 2003 11:42 PM

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Thanks wiz, i got quite a bit of work left though, so it may be a while.

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GaryH2Charter Member · 375 postsSep 23, 2003 11:18 PM

RE: RANT Weathering & Color distortion

Any luck with this issue? I am running into th esame thing with my Reading RS3 repaints.It looked GREAT in PSP, but terrible (or non-existant) in MSTS. GH

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IcyFireCharter Member · 2827 postsSep 23, 2003 11:25 PM

RE: RANT Weathering & Color distortion

I have had some luck, i used a much lighter coating and .75% noise, the color reduction is still there, but not as evident

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Stooopid_personCharter Member · 2951 postsSep 21, 2003 8:03 AM

RE: RANT Weathering & Color distortion

Trains with with 32 bit colours still look fine on my M$TS! But they don't have weathering! So how does weathering affect M$TS anyway? It's only a picture file!

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IcyFireCharter Member · 2827 postsSep 21, 2003 11:35 AM

RE: RANT Weathering & Color distortion

because once theres a alpha on a .ace file, the usable amount of colors drops significantly, and the si groups them up by closest match rather then a nice gradient, In a perfect world, it would display 16.7 million colors instead of the limited amount it insists

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