East Broad Top Route - Long/Screenshots

Now that I've got a handle on the track, I'm going to go ahead and say that I'm working on a route for the East Broad Top Railroad. The original is a 3' gauge steam railroad in the mountains of Pennsylvania, USA, built in 1872, closed in 1956, reopened for tourist service in 1960 and still running today on about 4 miles of the line. The unused 27 or so miles of the mainline are still in place. My route will be made accurate to the prototype. It uses DEM terrain and period track maps. It includes the total of all EBT trackage, rather than a specific time, even though not all track coexisted. For yard arrangements, etc that changed over time, they are correct to the specific references I have. It includes all branches, and will feature the Rockhill iron furnaces, but not the existing Rockhill Trolley Museum (sorry RTM members, but you can still grab a trolley and run it down the line!).Currently, the route has all terrain, water, and track in place (narrow, standard, and dual gauge). Some equipment has been made or repainted for operation (my work trains ). I hope to model all railroad structures and equipment. As will be evident from the screenshots, a lot remains to be done.I have not yet decided on any distribution means, but I would like to see some benefit directed toward the real EBT, which always needs help to keep running and keep up maintenance of the line, the locomotives, the equipment, and the shop complex. The simulation is fun, and hopefully informative, but preservation of the real one is of much higher importance.The EBT's 'modern' M-7 at Orbisonia station
Route Map from high altitude (Mount Union at top, Alvan at lower left)
The complex dual gauge yard in Mount Union (later years) where coal was cleaned, sized, and transloaded to the Pennsylvania RR.
Heading north past Saltillo station (standin), Narco spur in distance at left.
Heading RR north into Wrays Hill tunnel at Rocky Ridge
Coal loads ready to head north from station at Roberstdale.
Borrowed power heading up Coles Valley Branch
A whole bunch of coal headed to the delivery trestle at Neelyton
Narrow EBT #19 (fictitious) and Standard G&D #25 in Mount Union
(Sizes similar to EBT #11 and EBT standard gauge switcher)
Finally, some EBT hoppers with not-so-implausible-anymore N&W 100 tonners.
That's it, thanks for bearing with me, especially those on phone lines.

3footer

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It's looking mighty nice!Bringing America into the 19th Century!

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Sweeeeet!My Dad will love to see this, he goes down there every year to visit!He also goes to the Strasburg RR; you know if there's anybody building a MSTS version of that line? Such a small R.R., wouldn't take long!Anyways, keep up the good work.Jeremy Hopkin

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Jeremy,Since I am an employee for the "Raildriver" team that has just released our new Train Controller, I can tell you that I have something up my sleeve and hopefully my plan will work out. I cannot say what it is just yet, but I can tell you that this will involve the "East Broad Top" Railroad in Train Simulator.....If all goes according to plan, this opens up something that I think will make a neat touch for people to Interact with the "East Broad Top Railroad" via Train Simulator.
Once I get permission to do what I have in mind, then I will announce it here. -Tim

Tim Lewis
Email: timl@raildriver.com
Web: http://www.raildriver.com

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Great! That's realy nice. Keep up the good work! /Jonatan

Steam rules!

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them diesel's are now on the Durango and Silverton for maintnence and fire trains.

Behold the POWER of BLACK AND GOLD: THE DENVER&RIO GRANDE WESTERN
http://groups.msn.com/RioGrandeDudesNarrowGaugeCommunity

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>them diesel's are now on the Durango and Silverton for
>maintnence and fire trains. Well, the M-7's three sisters are. M-7 is still in service at the EBT and has received more stuff too, most noticeably additional handrails (not in my model). It makes for a nice simple model for a beginning locomotive project and is rather appropriate for a year 2003 "construction" train.

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WOW! How cool! I really like this. I go to the EBT as much as I can and hopefully this year I can go again. I have fallen in love with this narrow gauge railroad and I for one am glad to see someone doing it! (Even though I know who you are.....hehehehehehe)I am looking forward to being able to put this gem of a railroad, on my computer! Your doing a heck of a job, please keep up the good work!-Tim

Tim Lewis
Email: timl@raildriver.com
Web: http://www.raildriver.com

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Hey 3Footer,Great job so far. I do have a few questions: By chance, the textures on those hoppers: were they created using textures from the EBT Hopper pack? There is no problem with that, I was just curious on that part.My second question: are you building any steam locomotives for it, such as EBT Mikes 12, 14, 15, 16, 17 & 18? Because, if I can get my team to accept (and if I can somehow manage to get plans and measurements to the hoppers, I can create them. All you would have to do for the boxcars is download any of the Narow gauge boxcars, and reskin it into the EBT's livery. I am looking forward to downloading the EBT, after all, you can't have the Pennsy Middle Division if ya don't have the East Broad Top. Good luck on the route, and keep up the magnificent work...

Thomas Pearce,

Freight Car Builder, Broadway Limited Locomotive Works

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The M7, hopper 1000, caboose 27, and Orbisonia station are all built and textured from my own photos. I have also replaced the track textures with my own (the photos vary in time, so don't all show this). Third party models shown are just for temporary use, and would be removed in any release (unless arrangements are made to the contrary).My hope is to simulate *all* of the EBT equipment, and RI&C too, from the "Edward Roberts" no. 1 mogul (how that tiny engine made it up the mountain I have no idea!) to no. 18. Wooden hoppers to the 1910's steel fleet and the current excursion modifications. Possibly even an 'iron age' variant with original wooden trestles/bridges as opposed to the middle-aged truss bridges or later girder bridges, and industries/details accordingly.As for help, I am convinced I'll be needing it, but there are two issues. First, I've not decided on distribution, which will affect who would be willing, how they would be compensated, and what software tools can be used (or else more compensation). Second, I'm one of those pesky perfectionists and that can be a source of friction (I already plan to redo the models I've made). If these two issues don't upset you, then we should talk!

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Hey 3footer,To note, none of the above issues upset me in any way. Just send me info on what you want built (My latest specialty is Rolling stock...), and I believe I can handle it. To show you proof of what has been accomplished, I have provided a link to one project that I have been working on. Please note, it still needs a coal load, and textures (The green is an "In House temporary" Skin, that will be replaced whenever the hopper is fully completed. Just drop me a line at TVRRMAN@aemail4u.com with whatever you want me to try doing, and I'll see what I can do for ya.Here is the Link:http://www.train-sim.com/dcforum/DCForumID5/6083.html#9To note: The main body to the hopper was built by me, then sent over to Mike Vamnderhoof for the addition of a temporary skin, trucks and couplers. Textures are being done by an individual contractor.

Thomas Pearce,

Freight Car Builder, Broadway Limited Locomotive Works

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Looks, awesome....another great NG steam route. YES!!!!!
Future Cumbres & Toltec or Durango & Silverton Engineer.
cumbres487@attbi.com
Go to my informative K-36 page:
http://www.freewebs.com/drgwk36For progress on the Cumbres Pass route:
http://groups.msn.com/MSTSNarrowGauge/ctsrr.msnwVisit the Red Mountain Gorge Narrow Gauge R.R.'s official site: http://groups.msn.com/MSTSNarrowGauge/narrowgaugerouteformsts.msnw

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