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Hey Guys...I just imported my Pennsylvania Railroad H21a Hoppers into train-sim, only to find that half of it is sunken into the ground, and rotatd 90 degrees. Is there a way to fix this? I'll post pics later...

Thomas Pearce,
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Member since Feb-6-03 · 153 posts

RE: Need assistance with H21a Hoppers...

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If you're using gmax, you need to retate the pivot of the object which you're using as your "main". I believe in the top view, the red arrow should be pointed to the left.Hope that helps. Projects
- 421 class Public Transport Commission of New South Wales diesel electircs:
Fuel & Air tanks - 93%
No. 2 end - 88% (Pilot details and number boards/headlights need to be added)
No. 1 end - 05% (Headlight & handrails are on)
Sides - 33% (frame work is up, about 1/4 of panels on)
Overall - 15.0%
- 422 class New South Wales Government Railways diesel electircs:
On the drawing boards for a project after the 421's.
Overall - Not official

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Charter Member · 828 posts

RE: Need assistance with H21a Hoppers...

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Select the "main" object, this would be the hopper body. Follow the photos below if you are using gmax or 3ds max:To fix this error we need to adjust the pivot: Resetting its rotation will fix the car's rotation and moving it up slightly will bring the car back onto the rails:This tutorial is somewhat lengthy (I have shown every step to make it easier to follow) and not guranteed to work; I may have made an error somewhere as I am just doing this without actually trying it because I don't have MSTS installed.

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    Member since Feb-6-03 · 153 posts

    RE: Need assistance with H21a Hoppers...

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    Guess who has too much time on their hands. That's basically what I said in my post althought not in as many words.That is a great tutorial you have there, should put it up on the web or something if it isn't already up.Projects
    - 421 class Public Transport Commission of New South Wales diesel electircs:
    Fuel & Air tanks - 93%
    No. 2 end - 88% (Pilot details and number boards/headlights need to be added)
    No. 1 end - 05% (Headlight & handrails are on)
    Sides - 33% (frame work is up, about 1/4 of panels on)
    Overall - 15.0%
    - 422 class New South Wales Government Railways diesel electircs:
    On the drawing boards for a project after the 421's.
    Overall - Not official

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    Charter Member · 387 posts

    RE: Need assistance with H21a Hoppers...

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    can you open 3DC, or 3DO files? I got a version vith trucks coupleres and the correct center of gravity, I'll foward it back to you if you can open it. no mapping though, ther whole thing has juct been flooded with a jeneric blue color.

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    Charter Member · 828 posts

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    LAST EDITED ON Feb-15-03 AT 01:11 PM (EDT)

    Hi,I am starting a web page that will be a whole bunch of MSTS related tutorials. Including this one and the Boolean Operations, whcih is very handy when making ALCos! As I finish tutorials I will refer to the in my messages signatures and on the message board. There will be a link appearing in a few days! Just have to reinstall MSTS!Aussie Cow I applogize if I have stolen the "show" I just thought that I would add to what you said incase there were modelers that don't know how to go about doing that.This is kwk100 and I'm 10-10 on the side.KWK100's GE Locomotive RebuildingUpdates (Jan 9 2003)GE 44 Tonner V2.00 and the 5 Ton Brownhoist nearing completion. Texture fixing in the works.
    GE logo and name property of General Electric, I have no relation to GE.

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    Member since Feb-6-03 · 153 posts

    RE: Need assistance with H21a Hoppers...

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    LOL!It's ok, glad someone can explain this stuff better than I can and in plan and simple english.Projects
    - 421 class Public Transport Commission of New South Wales diesel electircs:
    Fuel & Air tanks - 93%
    No. 2 end - 88% (Pilot details and number boards/headlights need to be added)
    No. 1 end - 05% (Headlight & handrails are on)
    Sides - 33% (frame work is up, about 1/4 of panels on)
    Overall - 15.0%
    - 422 class New South Wales Government Railways diesel electircs:
    On the drawing boards for a project after the 421's.
    Overall - Not official

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    Charter Member · 159 posts

    RE: Need assistance with H21a Hoppers...

    LAST EDITED ON Feb-15-03 AT 03:56 PM (EDT)

    Hey Mike,Tom Pearce here. Yes I can open it in 3D canvas. Also, is the train sim wizard already set up for export into the game? That's were I seem to have been having the most trouble. If your interested, I also recently created a PRR Class B60b 63' Baggage car. It only needs custom trucks, couplers added, and the roof rounded in areas. Never tried importing into train simulator yet, so I have no idea what else might be wrong with it. If your interestd, just give me a holler, and I'll send it your way. PS: Any screenshots of it in the game?Also, to all those who posted replys, Thank you guys....

    Thomas Pearce,
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    here is some shots for ya. I'll send you the 3DC file later this weekend.
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    LAST EDITED ON Feb-15-03 AT 09:12 PM (EDT)

    Hey Again Mike,Thanks for everything so far. You've done a magnificent job with those so far. By chance, do you want to team up: I'll build the basic concept to the freight equipment, thn send it you're way for the fine-tuning? Looking forward to running them in a freight, with or without final textures. I guess I know what his means: Time to finish Pre-Spring cleaning of my Trainset folder (Not to mention my projects folder.) Hey Mike, also check the BLLW email page: there is a messag there that you might be interested in...Your Friend,

    Thomas Pearce,
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    roger, wilco.

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