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y2jason (14 posts)
Mar-04-02, 03:12 AM (EST) "ive stopped working on my route" i have stopped working on my route Winifrede Railroad because of all this copyright mumbo jumbo its my first attempt at route building and i got all the tracl layed and i come here and start reading threads and see all this copyright talk so im just gonna hold onto it until everything blows over which i hope will be soon.
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Subject Author Message Date ID RE: ive stopped working on my route QueenHeartles Mar-04-02 1 RE: ive stopped working on my route jleslie Mar-04-02 2 RE: ive stopped working on my route rgarber Mar-04-02 3 RE: ive stopped working on my route SkyRat Mar-04-02 4 RE: ive stopped working on my route rgarber Mar-04-02 5 RE: ive stopped working on my route Motley24Crue2 Mar-04-02 6

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QueenHeartles (34 posts)
Mar-04-02, 04:48 AM (EST) 1. "RE: ive stopped working on my route" Please don't stop working on your route. Even with the turmoil here it doesn't justify shutting down a project that you enjoy doing. Just be kind enough to ask for permission and to give credit were credit is due and you won't run into any trouble. Worse comes to worst, I'm sure dropping a line to Rich Garber with any questions you may have could surely get them answered. The community needs route builders to continue doing what they love, and you are no exeption.Queen"And the meandering of the queen continues for another day..." Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
jleslie (79 posts)
Mar-04-02, 08:01 AM (EST) 2. "RE: ive stopped working on my route" Don't stop work on a route because of somebody that's not happy with copyrights. In this forum that's more the exception than the rule. If I ever get around to distributing my product I will try to mention as many people as I can that have contributed, not as much for "copyright protection" but because it's the "right thing to do". Frankly, I have used so much stuff I'm not so sure I could figure out now who it all came from anyway. Most people here like to see their stuff used, that's why they post it here in the first place.I just submitted my first locomotive re-skin ever... it isn't even in the download section yet... I gave credit to the original designers because it's THE RIGHT THING TO DO, not because I'm worried about them suing me. To be honest I really couldn't care less if somebody does go out and try to make money with my work...good luck, even though I put about 20 hours into it. Heck, Nels could remove my name from it right now and post it up there claiming it was his and I wouldn't even care....I'd just be happy that somebody thought enough of it to do something with it.I think the word "copyright" as far as MSTS is concerned is an inappropriate use of the legal term in the first place...go look up the official definition for the term. How many of us are ever going to try to make money at what we produce anyway? How many of us would actually PAY money for somebody else's work when there is so much "free" stuff out there anyway? That is the main reason I didn't purchase the LTV route from Abacus...what does that route have that PO&N, EMRR, or HBS don't have? A price tag is the only difference. I'd bet that the free routes mentioned are better anyway.Most people probably won't agree with my opinion about this copyright thing...but everyone is entitled to my opinion. If somebody wants to spend the money to sue me over something like MSTS where I plain forgot to give credit or inadvertantly missed it... never intended to make money or claim that somebody else's work is mine, then more power to them....and good luck with it in the courtroom...you'll need it.Moral of the story....by all means continue with your route...what youdo in the privacy of your own home is yours anyway. Don't be concerned about somebody flaming you for copyright violation. When you get to the point of distribution, just make sure that you mention as many people in your credits as you can and include a "blanket" mention for anybody you forgot and a method for them to get their name in the "marquee" if you missed them. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
rgarber (1336 posts)
Mar-04-02, 10:58 AM (EST) 3. "RE: ive stopped working on my route" y2jason,I'm guessing you read Lawrence's last "I'm leaving" post called Tapiola. It was nothing but lies. There was no issue of copyright. Please read this post and continue with the route.This was not about copyright, read this posthttp://www.train-sim.com/dcforum/DCForumID6/3894.htmlRich Garber Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
SkyRat (22 posts)
Mar-04-02, 11:13 AM (EST) 4. "RE: ive stopped working on my route" >i have stopped working on my
>route Winifrede Railroad because of
>all this copyright mumbo jumbo
>its my first attempt at
>route building and i got
hey, don't stop!!!!!!!!! that is what losers want you to do. don't be dragged down to their low life level. i'm building my first route, too; and there are no copyright problems (that was to cover-up the real problem.) Larry mislead the community to manipulate the situation and create general confusion. remember - "we can please some of the people sometimes but not all the people all the time."SkyRat
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rgarber (1336 posts)
Mar-04-02, 11:24 AM (EST) 5. "RE: ive stopped working on my route" Exactly right! I should've spoken out on this sooner. But what he is trying to do is divide us. There is and never was an issue of copyright in any of this. Please continue your work. If I was this mean nasty person like Lawrence says I would be doing every thing to stop you all from doing your routes so mine would stay popular.Please continue! Rich Garber Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Motley24Crue2 (401 posts)
Mar-04-02, 11:41 AM (EST) 6. "RE: ive stopped working on my route" LAST EDITED ON Mar-04-02 AT 12:15 PM (EST)lol we dont need any more Lawrence Kellie's "unless there not Greedy or anything like that"but im still saying LETS forget about this and move on
But if Lawrence does return to this Forum the only thing i ask from everyone in here is to Simply get along i too agree with many this is a Hobby not a War!! no reason to fight over itBob
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