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Damn, what a difference...I downloaded the new Trainz Demo. It was on a whim, just to see what all the fuss was still about.Surprise!!!
It's a quantum leap from the software I purchased and sold in January.It loaded without any issues, even with my "not supported" ATI card. The motion was a little clunky. I used the default settings and a bit of tweaking might be in order. Other than that In ran right out of the zip file.So my major objection (at least with my present hardware) has been dealt with. This time I actually got to use the software. My first impression? Different...different feel (if you know what I mean) different look. Surveyor may be a bit to simple to use. It takes some adaptation. While MSTS feels too "tight", the Auran product may be too "loose" Sorry for the terminology, I can't express it any other way. Maybe the flight simmers will understand what I mean. I could create terrain VERY fast, but not with any degree of control. I also have gotten very used to DEM'g half the state of Pennsylvania, so while I might use an interface like Surveyor for detailing a DEM'd landscape I don't think I would like it for large areas.I don't know if I would be in a hurry to leave the familiar landscape of MSTS. Not yet. I will definitely explore a bit. There are a great many modeling projects I have planned and I'm not looking forward to using GMAX in either sim. I actually prefer TSM.At this point it really is a matter of preference. The Surveyor isn't really as easy as it looks, likewise Route Builder isn't really as hard as it seems. They both take some getting used to. I would think, however that the learning curve is shorter with Trainz.The graphics are definitely different. While I like the terrain texturing in Surveyor (realistic rock faces right out of the box) the overall effect is...This is gonna sound silly....dark and brooding...Kind of like Marvel versus DC comics when I was a kid. The lighting in MSTS lends a brighter feel to the visuals as a whole. Maybe it's just the fact that the terrain was British. It would be a good sim to model the Washington/British Columbia area with. Sort of an X-Files atmosphere. Not a condemnation, mind you...just an impression.I have to "muck about" a bit more, but I would like to say the latest version of the program is not at all what I made it out to be.Frank Musick
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I totaly undesttand your "terminology". I know exactly what you mean cause I feel the same way.
I agree on all points that you have made, except about Surveyor.
I was making Yamanote Line the 2nd day I got Trainz, and after 1 week I had almost complete control of it.
I did make Yamanote Line in MSTS and got as far as tracks and signals layed,
but after getting used to with Trainz, I threw it away. Backing up 100MB files was also a pain in MSTS
while in Trainz you can select save As.. and back up in seconds.
As for perfomance, you gotta see the perfomance on SP3(1.3). Smooth as silk compared to previous version, 1.1.1 or 1.1.2.
I think the Demo is 1.1.2 or 1.1.1.
As for being dark, I agree with you Britain beign dark, but I think it also comes from ATi.
ATis give darker screens in General and it cant be matched to Nvidia even by controling Gamma settings.
I have 2 monitors setup, and clearly the Nvidia's screen is way brighter and easyer to see.Georgi

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<<As for being dark, I agree with you Britain beign dark, but I think it also comes from ATi.
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I do not agree with this at all. I have a GeForce II card. The lighting in Trainz is definitely darker than in MSTS. The lighting in MSTS is much more realistic. And it has nothing to do with "gamma corrections" and other such nonsense. Auran corrected the fog issue but the lighting is still incorrect. If you ever take the time to read an MSTS environment file you will realize MSTS has attempted to model the physics related to light and Auran has not.

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On what basis do you disagree with me?
I did not say I disagree that Trainz is dak, I agree with it, but ATI DOES show images darker than GeForce in OVERALL.
That means in all situations.Georgi

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"I did not say I disagree that Trainz is dak, I agree with it, but ATI DOES show images darker than GeForce in OVERALL."Dude, no offence or anything, but im starting to notic a trend with you and bashing ati

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I dont know from when telling the fact became bashing.
Maybe telling the truth means bashing at this forum, eh?
As I said, I have 2 monitors. One connected to ATi Card, the other to Nvidia card.
ATi side image is darker, and no matter what gamma or bright settings I do it never matches the brightness and clearity of Nvidia.
YOu guys are bunch of idiots here unlike Auran forum.Georgi

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Hey... give the Surveyor a chance.... it gets very easy after awhile. If you had the book, or maybe some documentation, it would help out alot. I know the Compass can really move around if you dont know how to use it.It took me 2 days to get used to it... now I am a pro.Good Luck...
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