Chicago & Illinois Midland SD9

LAST EDITED ON Oct-06-04 AT 10:56 AM (EDT)

Hi all, this is my first reskin of a locomotive besudes the Miss. Pacific stuff that I have done for my personal use...It is about 95 percent done except for the difficulty I am having finding the proper Heralds for the sides of the cab. It is a Justin Cornell model and so far it is looking like the prototype(C&IM #60 was actually an SD18 with a low nose) except for the herald. If anyone knows where I could find the proper herald, please let me know, I would surely appreciate it. Will upload it when it is done to the file library as there seems to be a shortage of C&IM stuff. Thanks in advance...FrankReskin- http://www.geocities.com/frankoburns/SIM1.html

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RE: Chicago & Illinois Midland SD9, GMOF3A, Oct-07-04, 00:49 AM, (1) RE: Chicago & Illinois Midland SD9, frankoburns, Oct-07-04, 10:23 AM, (2) RE: Chicago & Illinois Midland SD9, CGW409, Oct-09-04, 11:23 PM, (3) RE: Chicago & Illinois Midland SD9, chazlee1, Oct-10-04, 02:05 AM, (4) RE: Chicago & Illinois Midland SD9, CGW409, Oct-10-04, 01:04 PM, (5) RE: Chicago & Illinois Midland SD9, carlosgomes, Oct-10-04, 06:27 PM, (6) RE: Chicago & Illinois Midland SD9, carlosgomes, Oct-10-04, 06:45 PM, (7) RE: Chicago & Illinois Midland SD9, ssw, Oct-10-04, 08:13 PM, (8) RE: Chicago & Illinois Midland SD9, frankoburns, Oct-11-04, 10:25 AM, (9) RE: Chicago & Illinois Midland SD9, frankoburns, Oct-11-04, 10:29 AM, (10) RE: Chicago & Illinois Midland SD9, frankoburns, Oct-11-04, 01:37 PM, (11) RE: Chicago & Illinois Midland SD9, carlosgomes, Oct-11-04, 02:51 PM, (12) RE: Chicago & Illinois Midland SD9, pwillard, Oct-11-04, 03:03 PM, (13) RE: Chicago & Illinois Midland SD9, frankoburns, Oct-12-04, 10:37 AM, (19) RE: Chicago & Illinois Midland SD9, pwillard, Oct-12-04, 11:33 AM, (20) RE: Chicago & Illinois Midland SD9, frankoburns, Oct-12-04, 11:44 AM, (21) RE: Chicago & Illinois Midland SD9, pwillard, Oct-12-04, 01:01 PM, (22) RE: Chicago & Illinois Midland SD9, plainsman, Oct-12-04, 01:24 PM, (23) RE: Chicago & Illinois Midland SD9, frankoburns, Oct-11-04, 03:35 PM, (14) RE: Chicago & Illinois Midland SD9, carlosgomes, Oct-11-04, 05:21 PM, (15) RE: Chicago & Illinois Midland SD9, James, Oct-11-04, 05:38 PM, (16) RE: Chicago & Illinois Midland SD9, carlosgomes, Oct-12-04, 10:17 AM, (18) RE: Chicago & Illinois Midland SD9, CGW409, Oct-11-04, 06:24 PM, (17) RE: Chicago & Illinois Midland SD9, frankoburns, Oct-14-04, 09:49 AM, (24) RE: Chicago & Illinois Midland SD9, pwillard, Oct-14-04, 09:54 PM, (25) RE: Chicago & Illinois Midland SD9, frankoburns, Oct-15-04, 09:31 AM, (26) RE: Chicago & Illinois Midland SD9, pwillard, Oct-16-04, 08:37 PM, (27) RE: Chicago & Illinois Midland SD9, frankoburns, Oct-18-04, 09:59 AM, (28)

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There are also 11 nice C&IM downloads at:http://www.angelfire.com/ill/cim/index.html , Thomas Howell's site.Paul Fowler

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Thanks much for the info Paul. I'll for sure check it out.....Frank

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LAST EDITED ON Oct-09-04 AT 11:32 PM (EDT)

Frank
This should help,took me a little time to track down the shot I got of CIM 65 out at Ill Railway Museum.
It's a fairly raw scan,I did some color adjustment and you might need to do a little Photoshop work to get the exact herald you need but it should give you a start.
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You might want to contact Carlos Gomes with pics of the CIM SD9's while Justin's SD is a fantastic model Carlos is willing to mod his model to fit your needs(ie no dynamics etc)Gary S

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As a matter of fact, I think Carlos is working on a lownose SD18 as we speak...

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Chazz
Didn't want to say anything quite yet but the 18 would look pretty nice in C&IM colors too.
Since Carlos seems to like some of the stranger critters as well maybe if we ask him nice we might be able to get an RS1325 out of him.Gary S

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Been busy enhancing the SD7, but what's a RS1325? You made me curious...

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Ok, I got it. Who has been gluing parts of different locomotives?
Some parts could be used from the SD18, but the long hood and the trucks would have to be completely rebuilded. After the SD26 if you are interested in that one I can try if there's enough info about it.

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>Ok, I got it. Who has been gluing parts of different
>locomotives? That's the nice thing with most EMD's.. lots of interchangeable parts Bradley Linda
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Thanks for the help, Gary...I'll see what I can do with it..Frank

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LAST EDITED ON Oct-11-04 AT 10:33 AM (EDT)

This is an RS1325...What do you think Carlos? I would attempt it, but the result would be a joke....Frank

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To my surprise, both #30 and 31, the only 2 units built, originally for Chicago& Illinois Midland, are still in service. The C&IM, now called the Illinois & Midland, repainted them and left their original numbers http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=52529
30 and 31 as the above photo shows............Frank

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It surely is an interesting loco... I think the long hood belongs to a RS1, or am I wrong? I'm interested in EMD units and the oldest ones are those that deserve to be made. MSTS is crawling with so many Dashes, SD40's and so on, it seems nobody cares for other types of locos. After I complete the SD18 I can use some of the parts for the RS1325 that is, of course, if there are any repainters out there willing to give it some colours.

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LAST EDITED ON Oct-11-04 AT 03:04 PM (EDT)

Yep, that very unit is on my todo list...Here is a RS1325 WIP shot.
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Mighty nice model there Pete...looks like it for sure...can't wait to paint her.....The bogies on the prototype look to be off an SW1500 possibly? It would also look ok with Blomberg trucks, although not prototypical.......Frank

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LAST EDITED ON Oct-12-04 AT 11:34 AM (EDT)

The Trucks are actually Flexicoil trucks...I just haven't drawn them yet.Pete Willard

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Pete, thanks for that info....I have seen the "C" flexicoil truck, but didn't know there was a "B" version....Did this type offer a higher adheasion rate? Didn't these units get used for a lot of short haul road frieghts? hence the special trucks, higher horsepower rating, and a low short hood for collision protection? Frank

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EMD was probably more interested in high volume sales, hence, the GP series really filled the road switcher need. This probably accounts for why EMD never really offered much competition to the RS-1 or 2.Anyway, it seems there there was a time when Road and Branchline Switchers were all the rage and EMD was not really in a position to compete... (Think...10 years earlier to the BL2) Obviously, the 1325 was kitbashed to meet the needs, but re-using standard switcher trucks under such a unit didn't make much sense if the unit would need to operate at road freight speeds so an early version of 2-axle Flexicoil was placed underneath.Pete Willard

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Adhesion will be about 25% for these on good track, about the same as most non computer assisted units.
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Carlos, the long hood appears to be similar to an SW1200...the prototype uses a 12 cyl. 567C non turbocharged engine rated at 1325 hp. I would be more than happy to take a stab at painting the unit, both in the old scheme and the new one......Frank

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Yes, it seems a SW1200. I can increase the trucks' detail a bit more since it's a 2 axle one. Is there any diagram for the SW1200?

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awsome job.VMRS (Pittsburgh Division) Locomotive Painter
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Not that I don't want to do it, but Pete is already building this one.

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Frank
I've found one thing to remember with adapting hearld photos,the magic wand select tool is your friend.Carlos
Since you've already got the "serious" response I'll go for the silly.The RS1325 is the love child of a GP20 and an SW 1200(or a 12" equals 1' kitbash from EMD's parts box)Gary S

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Here is the SD-9 #50 finished..Hopefully it will be in the FL in a day or 2....Am thinking of doing a number 54 with some heavier weathering...Frank

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Progress report...Still deciding how much detail is enough. By no means is anything final yet...Pete Willard

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Pete.....lookin awesome!

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I think I now have a font that will work for us... Pete Willard

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Yupp....I believe you gotter there Pete.....I used Ariel on the SD9...it was pretty close..but yours is better. Frank

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