Train-Sim.Com
MSTS Engine And Livery Skinning

Help with 1024x1024 32bit ace files

Started by RogAnn 11 posts 5 min read

Notice to all visitors and members of the Train-Sim.Com message forums:
If you plan on using a signature banner in your posts, we would like to remind you that there is a maximum size for banners. That maximum is 450 pixels wide by 120 pixels high, and not to exceed 25k. Your compliance is appreciated. FORUM RULES Problems? There are two common reasons for problems with logging in and posting messages. The first is that you are running a firewall that prevents your messages from being sent to the server. The other is that you have cookies disabled; the DCForum software requires cookies to work properly.

Previous Topic | Next Topic

Printer-friendly copy Email this topic to a friend

Reading Topic #5242

RogAnnCharter Member · 157 posts

I am sure this problem has been solved many times,but after hours of searching on the forums I still can not find the answer.Maybe someone can give me the link to the answer on this forum.
The ace files I am trying to change are for the Via P42's by Robert Fontaine.The files are 1024x1024 32bit Compressed.I have Exported as Ace (Alpha) not DXT and as Ace(-Trans) but every time I export I lose the window transparency.His windows are a light shade of green, is this why I am losing the transparency?
I tried saving the repainted file as tga then used MakeaceWin and I still end up losing the transparency??
Thanks Roger

Alert | IP

Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

RE: Help with 1024x1024 32bit ace files, pwillard, Dec-10-03, 06:34 AM, (1) RE: Help with 1024x1024 32bit ace files, ATF1224, Dec-11-03, 07:11 PM, (6) RE: Help with 1024x1024 32bit ace files, IcyFire, Dec-10-03, 08:07 AM, (2) RE: Help with 1024x1024 32bit ace files, RogAnn, Dec-10-03, 08:18 AM, (3) RE: Help with 1024x1024 32bit ace files, Hack, Dec-10-03, 08:35 PM, (4) RE: Help with 1024x1024 32bit ace files, pwillard, Dec-10-03, 09:54 PM, (5) RE: Help with 1024x1024 32bit ace files, wdq4587, Dec-15-03, 03:02 AM, (7) RE: Help with 1024x1024 32bit ace files, Hack, Dec-15-03, 01:21 PM, (8) RE: Help with 1024x1024 32bit ace files, SCL, Dec-15-03, 05:48 PM, (9) RE: Help with 1024x1024 32bit ace files, wdq4587, Dec-15-03, 09:40 PM, (10)

Conferences | Topics | Previous Topic | Next Topic

pwillardCharter Member · 1346 posts

RE: Help with 1024x1024 32bit ace files

Help with 1024x1024 32bit ace files – image 1


There is nothing specifically wrong with Roberts ace file. I just loaded the ace into tgatool and exported it fine. Alpha channel remained intact.Checklist:1) LATEST version of tgatool!
2) TOOLSUPDATE for MSTS from Microsoft.
3) Use the "PATCHED #1 MAKEACE" option in TGATOOLGive those a try and see if it helps.Pete Willard

Help with 1024x1024 32bit ace files – image 2
http://www.trainsimstuff.com for beta releases, fonts, and project news.

Alert | IP

Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

IcyFireCharter Member · 3127 posts

RE: Help with 1024x1024 32bit ace files

Help with 1024x1024 32bit ace files – image 5

Thats because when dealing with 1024 ace's only 1 bit alpha's will work, solid black, or solid white, no grey.I'm currently away for a few days, i'll be back soon.
Life is on my nerves right now.
-Shawn Kenselaar

Alert | IP

Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

RogAnnCharter Member · 157 posts

RE: Help with 1024x1024 32bit ace files

I will change the window color to solid black both on the ace file and the alpha channel and see if that works,if that is what you meant?
To answer Pete in the above post I am using
PSP 7
Tagatools version 4.00.21 (Newer version seem to apply to PSP 8)
Toolsupdate for MSTS
and Patched #1 Makeace option
Thanks Roger

Alert | IP

Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

HackCharter Member · 3117 posts

RE: Help with 1024x1024 32bit ace files

>Why no one say use MakeAceWin and
>"Create bitmap (for cab backgrounds and controls)" option?? Because the issue is not the inability to create 1024 images, but the user's problem in getting the proper alpha channel.Cheers!
Marc - 3DTrains
http://www.3dtrains.comHelp with 1024x1024 32bit ace files – image 9Pro Series SuperPacks

Alert | IP

Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

SCLCharter Member · 477 posts

RE: Help with 1024x1024 32bit ace files

I've just had a few problems with 1024x1024 32bit textures, alpha channels, TGATool2 and MakeAceWin.First, I normally always use TGATool2, but on this particular model (Stew Clark's SW1) I couldn't get the "glazed" window effect with 1024 textures. Stew suggested using MakeAceWin instead, and yep it worked fine for the windows, but the 32bit textures suffered as a consequence. Stew explained to me that it's because only 24 of the 32bits are allocated to the colours, whilst the remaining 8 are dedicated to the alpha channel. Swings and roundabouts it seems. I don't want to lose the 32bit textures, so the windows lose out on this one!Cheers
Ken
SCL/CSX A-Line Project

Alert | IP

Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

wdq4587Member since Apr-5-03 · 220 posts

RE: Help with 1024x1024 32bit ace files

>>Why no one say use MakeAceWin and
>>"Create bitmap (for cab backgrounds and controls)" option??
>
>Because the issue is not the inability to create 1024
>images, but the user's problem in getting the proper alpha
>channel.
>It seems is file format problem? They need say they use what program and what format to save it. Generally it need a 32bit TGA no-compress format. You may save sa TGA file, then load that TGA file and see does transparency still exist or not? Attention! That's transparency channel, not additional alpha channel in graphic editor!

Alert | IP


[ Home | MSTS Forum | MSTS FAQ | File Library ] Copyright © 2002 by Nels Anderson. All Rights Reserved.

Restored from the Train-Sim.Com archive, captured January 5, 2005. About this archive.