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Charter Member · 1463 posts

LAST EDITED ON Apr-09-03 AT 06:06 AM (EDT)

LHW here....Im putting together some mega-packs of Northeastern themed rolling stock. These will consist of my reskins but I would also like to include some previously released rolling stock if I may....here is a list of the type of packs Im doing and the rolling stock/reskins I would like to use...Note: be advised that I would like to be able to modify some of these reskins if thats ok...(mostly to add some additional weathering and/or to lighten the brighter textures to "age" them a bit.here is the list.for a covered hopper pack, I would like to include:
==========================================================from acfhprs1.zip....
acfhopper_Cargill........by Enocell aka Teemu S.
acfhopper_EL20294........by Enocell aka Teemu S. from hopper24.zip.....by Brian zelgowski
ConrailACFhopper
GTACFhopper
PennCentralACFhoppercnwri.zip (weathered blue rock island).......by nick lyontpicghp6.zip (illinois central)............by trouble pryo
r
ri132658.zip (rock island blue).......by kelly ellisonpchopper.zip (PC hi-hip hopper).......by brian zelgowskicrhopper.zip (CR hi-hip hopper).......by brian zelgowskibohopper.zip (B&O chessie hi-hip hopper)...by brian zelgowskiGATX_hopper...GATX hi-hip hopper)..........Don Shriner
==============================================================For a TOFC trailer and 89' flatcar mega-pack, I would like to include:
----------------------------------------------------------------------KKTXflat.zip (Conrail)..........Model and textures by Clifford Timmccpkttx.zip (chicago central)...Model and textures by Clifford Timmripiggrn.zip (Rock Island).......by Matt Leistico=====================================================================
for a 100ton Coalhopper mega-pack, I wish to include:
------------------------------------------------------PRR coal (ribbed side with yellow dot)......repaint by?????PRR coal2 (offset side with "pennsylnvania" logo)..by micheal saverinon&w100t.zip (n&w coalcar not weathered).....by rick lampcr_coal.zip (CR red coalcar)...............repaint by ???????=====================================================================for a Coilcar megapack, I wish to include:
-------------------------------------------coilv10.zip (conrail coilcar).......by chip buchananelcoil.zip (erie lackawanna coilcar)....by tom priceiccoil1.zip (Illinois central Grey coilcar)...by samuel C webb
===================================================================These Northeastern prototype mega-packs will be uploaded only here at train-sim.com and will be strictly freeware of course with all credit given and all copyrights retained by original authorsAuthors, if possible, please let me know either way ASAP as I have much to do and need to know what I can and cannot use before I finish up my PC 1970 era activity pack which will feature these....Thank you for your attention.Bill Bzak aka Longhairedwizardbbzak@msn.com

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RE: Permission requested to include Reskins in Mega Pac

Bill I hate to be the bearer of bad news here.
But the only legitimate way for you to do this is to e-mail each author individually and ask for permission to use specific models directly....
Some may answer you on here and some won't.....
Like I suggested write them and ask.Chuck Schneider
(Virtual) CEO
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Member since Apr-8-03 · 58 posts

RE: Permission requested to include Reskins in Mega Pac

Northeastern themed rolling stock. ---> Rock Island
?????? uhh ok, so is California now in the midwest???
-- must be for run thru on the EL or something like that...Yes, you may include
ripiggrn.zip (Rock Island).......by Matt Leistico
in your activity pack.
(Please check w/ the orig. modelmaker for any further conditions)it was pretty entertaining trying to freehand yellow twine to hold down the tarp on that one. but it did achieve the results I was looking for.>>But the only legitimate way for you to do this is to e-mail each author individually and ask for permission to use specific models directly....although the above statement is correct, some people (like me) may have changed e-mail since origionaly uploading. So I keep my eyes open for any postings such as this public notification post. - and/also, if I found out that something that I painted was included w/ someone elses upload, and they have some statement in the .doc's about where it came from, that would be prefectly acceptable as well --> but when no refrence, or worse, claiming as own happens... that is when I start to have issues. lnghairedwizard, thanks for asking.Matt
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RE: Permission requested to include Reskins in Mega Pac

Why, I did the same thing, most either emailed me or responded to my post with permission.Kevin Arceneaux
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Hiya Bill!Sure you can use it,and anything i've re-painted for that matter. How goes the update for the East metro?Any new screens to show us?

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Thanks for the permissions guys.......I HAVE emailed several people already for permissions but several have come back as undeliverable (I assume the addrress is out of date) and a couple reskins have the original authors of the model and texture listed but no mention of who the author of the actual reskin is.....that being said....I don't feel that there is anything "illegitamite" about me making a post. Better to ask than to assume.LHW

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LAST EDITED ON Apr-10-03 AT 11:20 PM (EDT)

Bill are you having a bad hair day?
That's 2 of my posts you took in the wrong vein.>>>>I don't feel that there is anything "illegitamite" about me making a post<<<<<<I didn't say that.
I was trying to say that the preferred method is to ask the individual author for their permission...
Several of us don't respond to "Gang Posts" requesting permission.>>>>several have come back as undeliverable (I assume the addrress is out of date) and a couple reskins have the original authors of the model and texture listed but no mention of who the author of the actual reskin is.....<<<<<Unfortunately then you do not have permission from the authors you can not contact. If they don't respond to the "Gang Post" then you really can't assume you have permission.Chuck Schneider
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LAST EDITED ON Apr-10-03 AT 11:23 PM (EDT)

Well maybe if he was using your stuff he would, but since it isn't why are you worrying about it.Kevin Arceneaux
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Kevin I honestly wasn't worried about it...TKW is one of our partners at times....
And I was just trying to be helpful....
As you well know some designers can get down right testy about using their stuff with out saying "Mother May I" in the proper format....
(Can you say Svante?)
I posted in an open forum for the benefit of the new reskinners that join all the time and I wouldn't want to see any of them in a pi$$ing contest...
IMO, Bill just seems to be in a bad mood tonight....Chuck Schneider
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That is why I always include the orginial readme, cuts down on the complaining. And all that I have used have been ok with it or their readme did not have restrictions, though I did chack with them first. Always check the readme, many do not put restrictions other than credit for the skin. There are just a few PITA ones and I leave those alone.Kevin Arceneaux
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> There are just a few PITA ones and I leave those alone. Hey quit picking on us like that!
LOL!Chuck Schneider
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LAST EDITED ON Apr-10-03 AT 11:47 PM (EDT)

RE:>>>>several have come back as undeliverable (I assume the addrress is out of date) and a couple reskins have the original authors of the model and texture listed but no mention of who the author of the actual reskin is.....<<<<<Unfortunately then you do not have permission from the authors you can not contact. If they don't respond to the "Gang Post" then you really can't assume you have permission.Chuck, youre not telling me anything I dont know....If I get no responce either by email or the "gang" post....then I will assume the author does not grant permission and his/her reskins will not be used/included.the reason I did a "gang" post was to reach those with changed email addresses and unknown authors.....while i was at it, I figured I might as well ask permission for all the reskins I wish to includePS-Not havin a bad hair day.....just that your original reply seemed (to me at least) to imply that it is rude of me to use a "gang" post instead of trying to email everyone first with inquiring as to whether I did initially try at firstLHW

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>PS-Not havin a bad hair day.....just that your original
>reply seemed (to me at least) to imply that it is rude of me
>to use a "gang" post instead of trying to email everyone
>first with inquiring as to whether I did initially try at
>first
>
>LHW Cool.....
I reread it after you answered and saw how you could have taken exception to it....
Like I told Kevin you guys at TKW are friends...
Just trying to be my normal "PITA" self as Kev puts it...
Chuck Schneider
I'm only 58!
When I grow up I'm gonna be a Curmudgeon!
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