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ohmcno (78 posts)
Feb-10-02, 08:01 PM (EST) "Metro-North Genesis" I faked the back of the NH Genesis and called it done. I started on the Metro-North version, and I am going to release both simultaneously. Here's where I am now:Needs a few more hours work (put in about 20-25 hrs combined so far) and should be complete within the next 5 days.Sorry it's taking so long. Hope it'll be worth it.Michael Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
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Subject Author Message Date ID RE: Metro-North Genesis shadowr434 Feb-11-02 1 RE: Metro-North Genesis ohmcno Feb-11-02 3 RE: Metro-North Genesis chucksc Feb-11-02 2 RE: Metro-North Genesis ohmcno Feb-11-02 4 RE: Metro-North Genesis buzzbenz Feb-12-02 5 RE: Metro-North Genesis TonyBzt Feb-15-02 7 RE: Metro-North Genesis gordonfan Feb-13-02 6 RE: Metro-North Genesis buffy500 Feb-15-02 8 RE: Metro-North Genesis TonyBzt Feb-15-02 9 RE: Metro-North Genesis chucksc Feb-15-02 10 RE: Metro-North Genesis chucksc Feb-18-02 11 RE: Metro-North Genesis gordonfan Feb-19-02 12 RE: Metro-North Genesis ohmcno Feb-19-02 13

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shadowr434 (83 posts)
Feb-11-02, 08:01 AM (EST) 1. "RE: Metro-North Genesis" excellent job.are you living in Ctor do you just like these trains.? Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
ohmcno (78 posts)
Feb-11-02, 07:24 PM (EST) 3. "RE: Metro-North Genesis" I grew up in Westchester County, NY (on the Harlem Line) and am partial to the Harlem/Hudson/New Haven lines. I am also a member of the Danbury Railway Museum. I live in MA now. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
chucksc (1020 posts)
Feb-11-02, 10:27 AM (EST) 2. "RE: Metro-North Genesis" Beautiful engine(s). Ilove 'em!. But that damn broken back seam through the middle ruins it... I wish J-C would take the time to fix it... or ship it over to us or one of the other "design houses" to fix.... Buzz still wants to do this guy in 3DCanvas. He doesn't think too much of TSM because of artifacts like this ruining (in his opinion and he has the modeler's eye for detail) an otherwise excellent job by a talented young designer...
------Chuck Schneider---------

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ohmcno (78 posts)
Feb-11-02, 07:44 PM (EST) 4. "RE: Metro-North Genesis" I know what you mean. I don't want to complain about the seam since I'm just glad that we have a new Genesis. But as you can see with the MN skin above, the two sides of the texture do not shade the same (due to MSTS?). J-C knows about the seam and hopefully he's looking into it. Giving it to someone else to tweak might be an alternative for him.One very nice thing about J-C's textures is that there is no stretching on the carbody, which makes the quality of the skin rather nice and detailed when you zoom in on it. That's one thing I noticed on the TA F7s with the nose as opposed to 3DTrains' version - it's rather stretched so the quality of the logos start to fall apart when you get close. From a normal distance they look great though... Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
buzzbenz (448 posts)
Feb-12-02, 08:13 PM (EST) 5. "RE: Metro-North Genesis" LAST EDITED ON Feb-12-02 AT 08:14 PM (EST)The shading is probably a result of the way TSM is exporting the model to MSTS. I know in 3DC i can play with the "Crease" function (a sort of smoothing tool) to exaggerate or hide things like that. In fact, if you search the Loco Design forum, you can find a few screenshots of the F40 with some lighting oddities like that on the nose when i was playing with the Crease tool trying to find the perfect setting. I am not too familiar with TSM, but J-C may want to see what kind of smoothing options he can play with, as that may result in a quick and easy fix.------ BUZZ ------

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TonyBzt (20 posts)
Feb-15-02, 05:53 AM (EST) 7. "RE: Metro-North Genesis" Hi chuck,
the broken line of Jens-Chris' loco arises from the fact, that he used 2 separeted parts insteed of one to avoid a stretching of the textures and polygon smoothing.
TSM supports no bigger texture than 512 x 512 pixels. The problem could easily be solved with the TSM Pro editions which should support also textures with 1024 x 1024 pixels (but this software is more expensive !).
I think JensChris schould try to separate the side walls from the parts which must be smoothed and let the main parts of the sides unsmoothed (in this case the vertical line will disappear).
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gordonfan (119 posts)
Feb-13-02, 07:56 PM (EST) 6. "RE: Metro-North Genesis" I could beta test your metro-north genesis and new haven genesis locomotives. I'll make sure the models detail is perfect.
Joseph Criscuolo
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buffy500 (18 posts)
Feb-15-02, 09:46 AM (EST) 8. "RE: Metro-North Genesis" You can use 1024x1024 with on TSM model already...
Do your texture in 1024x1024, do a resized copy at 512x512 and apply that texture to the model.
Then you can just replace the .ace file with the ace file of the bigger version. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
TonyBzt (20 posts)
Feb-15-02, 06:38 PM (EST) 9. "RE: Metro-North Genesis" LAST EDITED ON Feb-15-02 AT 06:48 PM (EST)Hi Dave,
sorry but I didn't fully unterstand your tricky procedure !
Can You explain it more detailed ?Is it correct, that the textures in the .ace file are scaled relatively to the extents of the ace file.
i.e if I use a 1024x1024 ace file insteed of a 512x512 ace-file,that the texture-parts in it are automatically scaled by 2 ?
If so, that is a very nice feature !!! (which will help in our case !)Thanks
Tony
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chucksc (1020 posts)
Feb-15-02, 08:35 PM (EST) 10. "RE: Metro-North Genesis" Good one Dave! NALW is using the 3DC which in addition to a longer development cycle handles texture development differently than TSM does so we really couldn't help much... What we would wind up doing is redoing the texture in 3DC....
which once you do that you may as well do the whole darn thing....------Chuck Schneider---------

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chucksc (1020 posts)
Feb-18-02, 12:18 PM (EST) 11. "RE: Metro-North Genesis" Michael your 5 days are up lol!Actually I want to package this into a Genesii package with latest versions of SamSpade's cab(s) and modified Sounds and "tweaked" engine files.... I have J-C's permission to use his visual models and I am waiting on your reskins!
Let me know please so I can get this Genesis "Mega-Load" out the door!------Chuck Schneider---------

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gordonfan (119 posts)
Feb-19-02, 07:10 PM (EST) 12. "RE: Metro-North Genesis" When are your train's going to be ready I can't wain any more!






Joseph Criscuolo
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ohmcno (78 posts)
Feb-19-02, 07:29 PM (EST) 13. "RE: Metro-North Genesis" I got completely sidetracked with personal stuff and my WinME installation got hosed. I'll release the NH by itself within the next few days...sorry for the delay everybody...Michael Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

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