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I can't get the fuel points in any of the activities to refuel the diesel engine (using the gp38-2 default engine that came with msts)in any of the Routes that came with msts and also the Ohio River Version 10y Rich Garber.I have gone into the Activity Editor and activated the fuel points to 100%Still not refueling when pressing the "T" keyThen I went into the DREADED domain of the "RE" which I am ready for a straight Jacket at the Happy Acres Sanitarium and my wife has told me that I have a worst case of PMS then what she gets...LOL.....In the "RE" I did the following General tab in properties
1. Animate this object is unchecked
2. Shadow is checked
3. All other boxes unchecked

Pickup Tab
1. Capacity 1,000
2. Pickup type Fuel-Diesel
3. Never Runs out of fuel is checked
4. content is greyed out
5. Animation type Activated animation and action effects
6. Animation Length is 4.0 SecondsNow the ?$#%&^@ fuel points have disappeared in the activity Editor and I can't edit them and still not refueling the engines when pressing "T" Please Someone Help me before my nurse from Happy Acres gives me another Shot of Happy Juice.

What Am I doing wrong???Thanks to all you Msts Fans for your support,time and GREAT routes and Cars that you have produced. Taz423

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RE: HELP !!!!!!! Fueling Points, robertreedy, Jan-02-03, 07:20 PM, (1) RE: HELP !!!!!!! Fueling Points, taz423, Jan-02-03, 10:09 PM, (2) RE: HELP !!!!!!! Fueling Points, robertreedy, Jan-02-03, 10:42 PM, (3) RE: HELP !!!!!!! Fueling Points, taz423, Jan-03-03, 01:06 AM, (4) RE: HELP !!!!!!! Fueling Points, black5, Jan-03-03, 11:29 AM, (5) RE: HELP !!!!!!! Fueling Points, taz423, Jan-03-03, 06:49 PM, (6) RE: HELP !!!!!!! Fueling Points, taz423, Jan-03-03, 06:52 PM, (7)

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>I can't get the fuel points in any of the activities to
>refuel the diesel engine (using the gp38-2 default engine
>that came with msts)in any of the Routes that came with msts
>and also the Ohio River Version 10y Rich Garber.
>
>I have gone into the Activity Editor and activated the fuel
>points to 100%
>
>Still not refueling when pressing the "T" key
>
>Then I went into the DREADED domain of the "RE" which I am
>ready for a straight Jacket at the Happy Acres Sanitarium
>and my wife has told me that I have a worst case of PMS then
>what she gets...LOL.....
>
>In the "RE" I did the following
>
> General tab in properties
> 1. Animate this object is unchecked
> 2. Shadow is checked
> 3. All other boxes unchecked
>
> Pickup Tab
> 1. Capacity 1,000
> 2. Pickup type Fuel-Diesel
> 3. Never Runs out of fuel is checked
> 4. content is greyed out
> 5. Animation type Activated animation and action
>effects
> 6. Animation Length is 4.0 Seconds
>
>Now the ?$#%&^@ fuel points have disappeared in the activity
>Editor and I can't edit them and still not refueling the
>engines when pressing "T"
>
>Please Someone Help me before my nurse from Happy Acres
>gives me another Shot of Happy Juice.
>
>What Am I doing wrong???
>
>Thanks to all you Msts Fans for your support,time and GREAT
>routes and Cars that you have produced.
>
> Taz423
If I'm not mistaken, with the animation unchecked in #1, that turns the complete object off as far as the AE and activities are concerned. The biggest problem to the refueling is getting it positioned in the precise point it has to be for all of this to take effect.
Also, on Animation Length (#5 part2)I've set mine to 0 with 0.0mph and it seems to work pretty well. Maybe some else has some ideas to fill in the blank

RobertR .. ADF-M&RM at http://www.adfrr.com

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Member since Oct-26-02 · 11 posts

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Thanks Robert
I tried what you told me to do now the pumps swing madly back and forth and still it does not refuel.... What about the disappearence of the fuel pumps in "AE" Why are they not in the map of the editor??

taz423

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Probably a silly answer, but did you by any chance turn them off in the 'view' menu of the AE? I've had this happen a couple of times before I figured out what was going on.btw, I just thought of something that might help. Find a place on another route with fuel pumps (that work) matching what you have, mark down the co-ordinates and open that route with RE to see what they have set.

RobertR .. ADF-M&RM at http://www.adfrr.com

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Member since Oct-26-02 · 11 posts

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thanks again Robert
I tried that all ready set it to the default that msts started out with on the settings and still get no response to the pumps. The pumps swing and and forth and I get a click click noise from the pumps by no fuel registers in the engine. Also the view tab in "AE" is checked to see fuel points so I should see it.
If I set the Animation type to Animate only the the pumps show back up on the "AE" and the pumps don't move or get the click click sound.
Someone told me to check the world file in the route(s) to find the pumps uid #. I tried that looking at the ".WS files which are world sound files with wordpad but the ".W files are unreadable just letters and shapes {guessing some kind of computer language that I don't understand) it is unreadable to find an uid #
So now what do I do??? Ugggggg
Thanks again Robert for your suggestion if you have anymore Please pass it on.... Aleast with Flight Simulator you can edit all the files and read them Msts is just a Big Pain in the #@$&*...... Taz423

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I don't know much about RE etc but do you position your engine precisely for the intake point on it.
You can't refuel the engine if it isn't within range.IntakePoint ( -3.33 0.4 FuelDiesel )
IntakePoint ( 3.33 0.4 FuelDiesel )
In this example you only have a range of 0.4m (15") from the intake point.
I always increase the second number to 0.8..or more for steam.
You will also not refuel if your tank is full...I know it's obvious...just putting some ideas forwards.
Georges from London.

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Member since Oct-26-02 · 11 posts

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Thanks George for your response
Yes I have center the intake point of the engine at the pump and have doubled the values for the intake in the in the .eng files
the pumps swing but no fuel go in tank capacity is 2000 gallons and Im trying to fill the engines tanks with only 150 gallon of fuel left

taz423

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Member since Oct-26-02 · 11 posts

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LAST EDITED ON Jan-03-03 AT 06:57 PM (EST)

UPDATE!!!!!!!!!!!!I just noticed that in the "RE" properties Pickup tab window just above the Fuel-type box is says The Broken Shape will be us2fuel_d.sdoes this mean anything?????What do you use to read the .s and .sd file (example wordpad)to read the files all I get is strange symbols and square zeros using wordpad

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