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Member since Jul-25-02 · 24 posts

Help!!I have finally taken the plunge and decided to develop some activities for MSTS, after a few months of using other people's. But when I try to make a new service, my AE crashes when I try to list the rolling stock (diesel locos).Is it me, or the AE, or do I need to re-install MSTS (oh please no!)Cheers,
ozace50

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RE: AE crashes when listing rolling stock, jvizoso, Oct-27-02, 02:07 AM, (1) RE: AE crashes when listing rolling stock, ozace50, Oct-27-02, 05:46 AM, (2) RE: AE crashes when listing rolling stock, oldiedaddy, Oct-27-02, 06:56 PM, (3) RE: AE crashes when listing rolling stock, Brad 110, Nov-01-02, 06:14 PM, (4) RE: AE crashes when listing rolling stock, robertreedy, Nov-01-02, 10:30 PM, (5) RE: AE crashes when listing rolling stock, derekmorton, Nov-02-02, 10:36 PM, (6) RE: AE crashes when listing rolling stock, jvizoso, Nov-03-02, 03:33 AM, (7)

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Charter Member · 146 posts

RE: AE crashes when listing rolling stock

I'm only suggesting you do what other contributors to this fine board have posted as a way out of having to do the re-install.
It is probably an engine, wagon, or consist file problem... but which one? Hopefully your addiction to trainsim hasn't reached hard drive filling levels yet and the number of possible culprits is reasonably low.
Get ahold of route control lite from the nice people at how in the world(and the lovely SkyConductor2). Once it is installed you can use it to check your trainsim installation for problems . The nice feature is that it relegates consists for which you don't have engines or wagons to a back up folder for you, and you can use this to 'quaranteen' consists while you search for the ones that are hanging the activity editor.
And this is the plan to isolate the files that are stopping the activity editor from working.
Going through your trainset folder from the most recent entries backwards in time to the point when things started going wrong try moving your engines and wagons out of the trainset folder into a temporary one.. and then run route control lite .. the consist files relating the files just moved out will also be moved to therc backup folder inside the consist folder.Then try running the AE.
Yep , I did this five at a time and pretty soon had the trouble files isolated. you know you've moved the right file out when the ae works ok.. then it's just a matter of putting the 'ok' files back in, running rc lite to replace the 'ok' consists and there you go. jv

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Charter Member · 66 posts

RE: AE crashes when listing rolling stock

LAST EDITED ON Oct-27-02 AT 07:12 PM (EDT)

Had exactly the same headache a while ago.If you have ever installed EMRR : the bug is in n11sw12, a diesel switcher used in the EMRR East Metro.
The SECOND "wagon" statement in the sw12EMRR.eng file is faulty.
It must be corrected into
"Wagon ( sw12EMRR )" instead of "Wagon ( n11sw12 )"
Solved it all !
ALL EMRR USERS ARE LIKELY TO HOST THE SAME BUG...Hope this helps...
Well, and use the friendly Conbuilder1.51, then you hardly need the AE consist tool. (Thanks Carlos !)Love and Peace

OldieDaddy from Alsace

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Member since Aug-31-02 · 53 posts

RE: AE crashes when listing rolling stock

I had this problem, and several other related problems, like wrong thumbnails showing in the consist editor, and the consist editor slide bar jumping far dowm the list when a particular car was selected. I started using Con Builder to test all the wagons and rolling stock, and son of a gun, about 20% of the items I have downloaded had errors of one sort or another. Some were types in the .wag or .sd files, some were the .sd files pointing to an .s file other then the one that came with the unit, othersd had to do with cabviews and sound files for locos. Con Builder is excellent for this, and I will be doing those tests on every new unit I install before it goes into a consist.It is worth noting that the consist editor and Con Builder both use the Name field in the .wag/.eng file for display and default to the (respectively) the Wagon field or the .wag filemane if the Name filed isn't present. On most of the rolling stock I have d/l'ed, the name field is _not_ present. To find out if it is, open the file in question (.eng, .wag, and .sd files can all be text edited) and use the edit/find function to search for the word "name". Since the consist files track units by the wagon field of the .wag/.eng file and the folder name where it resides, the "Name" field can be changed/added without disturbing existing consists. If it is added, it has the following form:Name ("name-string")In a .wag file it can be added on the next line after the Wagon field or comment filed and should be indented. Some .wag files have the name statement down at the end near the sound statement, and this woks also, although they can be moved to the top. All .eng files I have seen have a name statment and I just edit it where it lies. In several d/l's there have been notes about organizing one's stock by using the folder names, and naming the folders in a consistant manner before using the stock in consists. I would add that the name statements be checked/modified/added in each new d/l as this will allow the same level of organization to be seen in the consist editor and Con Builder would be seen by drilling down to the trainset folder and looking at the unit folders. One more Con Builder note. If there is a .jpg or .gif file in the folder with the same name as the .wag/.eng file (but .jpg or .gif instead of .eng or .wag) then it will show up when you select an item and then right click for details.Brad Meyer

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ozace50, just a hunch, and I think you'll know what I mean. If you have it installed, try moving your NE Trackrepair folder out temporarily and see if that makes a difference. That was what was stopping mine from working.

RobertR .. ADF-M&RM at http://www.adfrr.com

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Yep , as the man says , get conbuilder, awesome .. hehe , especially if it's the first time you run it , you will never install more than one thing at a time anymore...
As an 'ass-backwards' learner myself, conbuilder has been extremely useful in teaching me msts syntax and file structure.
That's just a quote for the box . jv

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