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TrainFreak (13 posts)
Jul-04-01, 12:32 PM (EST) "Empire Builder consist" Does anyone know the exact (or as exact as possible) consist for Amtrak's Empire Builder? (ie number of locos, type and number of carriages etc.) - planning to replace the default Genesis consist with a real one. Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
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Subject Author Message Date ID RE: Empire Builder consist GregRetro Jul-04-01 1 RE: Empire Builder consist tulsarailfan Jul-08-01 2 RE: Empire Builder consist TrainFreak Jul-09-01 4 RE: Empire Builder consist kmcquarters Jul-09-01 3 RE: Empire Builder consist Rail_Driver Jul-09-01 5 RE: Empire Builder consist TrainFreak Jul-09-01 6 RE: Empire Builder consist FyrmanGizmo Jul-12-01 7 RE: Empire Builder consist jhender501 Jul-12-01 8 RE: Empire Builder consist Macster Jul-12-01 9 RE: Empire Builder consist rrfoose Jul-12-01 10

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GregRetro (3 posts)
Jul-04-01, 08:21 PM (EST) 1. "RE: Empire Builder consist" It's been a while since I've been over Marias, but at least in Spokane (further down the BNSF mainline westbound) the consist is usually of 2 Genesis AMD's with about 10-12 SuperLiner cars, a baggage car or 2 and 2 to 5 silver freight cars (I think they're "Materials Handling" or MH cars?) usually tacked on to the end. Someone actually living on the Funnel or on the High-Line might have more up-to-date info... Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
tulsarailfan (9 posts)
Jul-08-01, 05:33 PM (EST) 2. "RE: Empire Builder consist" When I rode it this year, the consist was the following:
2 genesis locos
1 silver baggage car (which I haven't yet found available for download)
1 transition sleeper (where the crew sleeps and eats)
2 sleepers
1 diner
1 sightseer lounge
1 coach
1 smoker/coach
1 coach
4 Express freight cars on end.This is the consist I modeled in the activity I posted here under 'Activities' called "Empire Builder Westbound". The cars I used in that activity were created by Buzz Benz and Andrew Held, and they're really well done. Thanks Buzz and Andrew!!I'm guessing the consist varies somewhat but that's a fairly typical long distance Amtrak Superliner western consist, the Southwest Chief was exactly the same when I rode it, the Texas Eagle was similar except no smoking car and only one sleeper. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
TrainFreak (13 posts)
Jul-09-01, 01:47 PM (EST) 4. "RE: Empire Builder consist" >When I rode it this year,
>the consist was the following:
>
>2 genesis locos
>1 silver baggage car (which I
>haven't yet found available for
>download)
>1 transition sleeper (where the crew
>sleeps and eats)
>2 sleepers
>1 diner
>1 sightseer lounge
>1 coach
>1 smoker/coach
>1 coach
>4 Express freight cars on end.
>
>
>This is the consist I modeled
>in the activity I posted
>here under 'Activities' called "Empire
>Builder Westbound". The cars I
>used in that activity were
>created by Buzz Benz and
>Andrew Held, and they're really
>well done. Thanks Buzz
>and Andrew!!
>Hmmm... I haven't seen a Sightseer Superliner available anywhere... Is it just that I haven't looked close enough?
Is the silver baggage car of the "heritage" type? In that case perhaps someone could make an Amtrak skin for one of the Empire State Express baggage cars when that is ready? After what I have seen the "heritage" cars seem to be fairly similar to the ESE cars...
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kmcquarters (3 posts)
Jul-09-01, 01:08 PM (EST) 3. "RE: Empire Builder consist" I work at Union Station in Chicago, for Metra not Amtrak, and see this consist on a near daily basis. For the record it's timetable designation is the "Empire Builder", trains 8, 48 and 808. In Chicago at least, Tulsarailfan's posting seems to represent the "average" daily consist. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Rail_Driver (6 posts)
Jul-09-01, 05:17 PM (EST) 5. "RE: Empire Builder consist" Hmmm... I haven't seen a Sightseer Superliner available anywhere... Is it just that I haven't looked close enough?Trying looking right in MSTS. The Superliner car included in MSTS is the Sightseer Lounge.
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TrainFreak (13 posts)
Jul-09-01, 05:19 PM (EST) 6. "RE: Empire Builder consist" Hmmm.. looks like I overwrote that one with Andrew Held's "upgraded" SuperLiner... :-/ Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
FyrmanGizmo (1 posts)
Jul-12-01, 00:20 AM (EST) 7. "RE: Empire Builder consist" Buzz just uploaded his Sightseer Lounge (nicely done!). I'd use that one instead of the default. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
jhender501 (34 posts)
Jul-12-01, 02:36 PM (EST) 8. "RE: Empire Builder consist"
I'm having trouble getting the empire builder westbound (and
others) to work..could it be I don't have the consist right?
I'm getting error messages that refer to the trainset.I'd love some input as to what I could be doing wrong.
Thanks
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Macster (14 posts)
Jul-12-01, 04:40 PM (EST) 9. "RE: Empire Builder consist" Empire Builder Train 27 - May 25, 2001P42 or F40
Sightseer Lounge Car
Diner Car
Sleeper
Coach
Coach
MHC
MHC
BoxcarEmpire Builder Train 7 - July 12, 2001P42
F40
Baggage
Transition Sleeper
Sleeper
Sleeper
Diner
Coach
CoachHope this helps Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
rrfoose (6 posts)
Jul-12-01, 09:35 PM (EST) 10. "RE: Empire Builder consist" The consists mentioned are close to what the consist was when I rode the Capitol Limited to and from Washington D.C. They usually keep the same consist and take it back the opposite direction, so a train with the sleepers in front one way would have them on the back going the other direction. Hope this helps.
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