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Hi folks.The key to any good looking route is going to be detail...and lots of it. I've received numerous E-mails from fine folks asking how to detail a route...thus why I write the rest here.The illusion of "much with little" is OK at times in the sim..but in a real life route, that theory does not always apply, and many objects are needed to give it the "real feel".For example...I've just completed a small, but significant object, a cable with a 250 pair bundle attached to a stand pipe, and a block connection box to the signal poles.You see them on CTC systems..they are everywhere.Also, I've built a small AFO Transmitter box for the crossing signal circuits.You'll also see custom crossing timbers at all the crossings.GM&O used a concrete whistle post too.All these little things make a "realistic feel" to a route.I've been learning TSM for this..and it works well...I just go there and whip something up when I need it.With that said..I feel it is essential to learn a modeling program, so you can create those small objects as needed. (I think David Klemm and Trouble Pryor, also apply this concept for the IC route)Now, alot of little things like this will zap frame rates..but it looks "SOOOOO GOOD" (as MR. FOOD says)I've come to the conclusion that I will continue on the path of low FPS, in hopes of a day when technology will advance to the state where the GM&O route can be run with ease, In which case...I'll re-work much of it and add more items to make it even more realistic.In doing this..the release date will be pushed back because of the intense scenery I plan to build (even though it's all flat land)That's my goal. I do appologize to the low-end users. This is why I have said from the start that this route will be hard on frame rates, so know one would be disappointed.Thanks again for your input..please feel free to comment further..I do listen to you input.

Paul...
www.mstsgmo.com

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Paul,Your attention to detail is paying off, your screenshots look great. I really like the additional details you've added, this is stuff all North American routes should contain. Of course my next question is going to be - would you consider sharing your creations with those of us who've not yet mastered modeling objects for MSTS?Also, which modeling tools do you use?Thanks!Dave Mikulec
Possum Lodge Paint Shop
Central Kentucky

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Charter Member · 413 posts

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Paul,In case you're interested, I also have a crossbuck without flashers, on a wood post. I just haven't gotten aroud to uploading it. Let me know if you're interested.Bruce Bridges

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Charter Member · 138 posts

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I notice on your crossing signal that it has the square sign saying Stop On Red Signal, where can I get that sign so that I can add it to my crossing signals?

Benjamin E. Matchett
Canadian National
MP 22.0
Mount Clemens Subdivision
matchett1701@hotmail.com

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Charter Member · 82 posts

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Paul, have you uploaded the whistle post and call box?
If not, please let us know when it's there.
Thanks.Carey

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Charter Member · 489 posts

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LAST EDITED ON Nov-27-02 AT 06:00 PM (EST)

Hi Gang...
All I can do for now is to give you permission ahead of time..(this goes for everyone) to use anything in my route that I have created..just give me and the GM&O ROUTE credit as the creator, and all GM&O ROUTE items must be for free projects only. None can be sold unless I give written permission....(SOP) At present, I have not uploaded anything in the route...it will all be included with the download when I get it completed..then you can use whatever you wish of mine.Now..it's going to be a little while longer before I can upload the route. I've done alot of experimenting with this route project, and I have some errors to correct..so I'm asking everyone to be patient with me, so I can do the best I can with this route and objects.Thanks for your interest...keep me updated on your opinions and comments..they are very welcome.

Paul...
www.mstsgmo.com

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Member since Aug-1-02 · 1013 posts

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Paul:No reason to apologize at all. You are one of the select few route builders that's taking this sim to a higher level. Though I'm a fledgling route builder, I can tell already that I would love to add such detail... but I know the hit my FPS will take, so I will have to wait for "someday" to arrive when I can have more computing oompah. Those of us with lesser machines will just have to wait until we have more computer to handle such a masterpiece. Running a route as superbly crafted as yours stripped of its detail with low slider settings would be a real downer.Continue taking it to new heights, my friend.Andre Ming

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Charter Member · 138 posts

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I was wondering if you can post a screen shot of the front view of your crossing signals so that I may see what to Stop On Red Signal sign looks like?

Benjamin E. Matchett
Canadian National
MP 22.0
Mount Clemens Subdivision
matchett1701@hotmail.com

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Benjamin E. Matchett
Canadian National
MP 22.0
Mount Clemens Subdivision
matchett1701@hotmail.com

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