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tryagin (644 posts)
May-13-02, 11:21 PM (EDT) "Log Rollway on the Willamette River. What's missing?" I just built the rollway at the Eastside Mill & Lumber Co.'s site, just south of Oaks Park on the PEPCO interurban, in Sellwood, S.E.Portland, OR. What I need is a "Jill-Poke" or some way to push the logs off the buggies. The logs, all 43 of'em, are Steve Thompson's.

Steve, if you're reading this, what have you done to represent a "Poke" on your logging route?Cheers,Tim Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
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Subject Author Message Date ID RE: Log Rollway on the Willamette R... kwk100 May-13-02 1 RE: Log Rollway on the Willamette R... timken May-14-02 2 RE: Log Rollway on the Willamette R... tryagin May-14-02 3

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kwk100 (393 posts)
May-13-02, 11:48 PM (EDT) 1. "RE: Log Rollway on the Willamette River. What's missing?" Hi,You could use an A-frame, basically some huge timbers lashed together to create an A. A steam or diesel donkey is used to reave cables which are used for lifting the bundles and another for tipping the A-frame outwards over the tracks so that the bundle of logs can be let go over the water. If the logs are lashed together on the car, crews are required to fish out the cable lashing. Maybe you could animate this like on those lift bridges...Diesel Industries
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timken (407 posts)
May-14-02, 09:04 AM (EDT) 2. "RE: Log Rollway on the Willamette River. What's missing?" Hi Tim,There were massive numbers of ways to get the logs off! Loggers were real innovators, and few dumps were the same. Capitol Boom Co. in Olympia WA had the set up below, with 1 track for logs and 1 for the gizmo to unload them. A name I've heard for the gizmo is "Gillekahike" God only knows if it was meant to be spelled! This shot is by my dad, about 1950. Some of the methods used;
Most appropriate for you maybe (circa 1905),1. Gravity, the track was tipped several degrees towards the water. Back in those days, log holding methods were primitive, often just wood chunks stuck in stake pockets. Idiots with more balls than brains chopped them out and dove out of the way! The logs usually rolled into the water.2. Jill Poles, often just a stout log mounted with a pivot, and a cable to hold it up, coming off another pole mounted vertical. It was jammed against the logs, and then the car was pushed into it, forcing the logs off. Some of these were a bit more sophisticated, being an X sort of merry go round, with spacing so each car in turn had a log come up against it to do the shoving.3. Rigs like in the photo, usually home made. I have shots I took of 1 up on Vancouver Island in 1968. It is a 2 truck shay underframe and gears with a box cab and diesel engine. Otherwise similar to the one in the photo.I haven't gotten around to anything for my dump, as I'm not doing 3D modeling yet! Maybe we can convince some one to tackle one of these!Steve Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
tryagin (644 posts)
May-14-02, 02:00 PM (EDT) 3. "RE: Log Rollway on the Willamette River. What's missing?" Thanks guys! And Steve, thanks for the cool pic! Your dad sounds like a fun guy! And you're fortunate to have a dad like him! I plan on picking up TSM this coming weekend when I get to the Valley (Willamette). I'll have to add some sort of "poke" to the list of projects, now. Thanks again!Tim Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

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