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Motley24Crue2 (315 posts)
Jan-11-02, 02:41 PM (EST) "(Send Error Message/Dont send)" hmm i wonder if Microsoft really gets these Error messages if and when someone Chooses send.... and if they do i also wonder if they are making better of these errors in a Latter release of Train Sim Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
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Subject Author Message Date ID RE: (Send Error Message/Dont send) ace6879 Jan-11-02 1 RE: (Send Error Message/Dont send) TAfan Jan-11-02 2 RE: (Send Error Message/Dont send) jtsdadinaz Jan-11-02 3 RE: (Send Error Message/Dont send) Vince Jan-12-02 4 RE: (Send Error Message/Dont send) mrmike Jan-12-02 5 RE: (Send Error Message/Dont send) beadyboy Jan-12-02 6 RE: (Send Error Message/Dont send) Vince Jan-13-02 7 RE: (Send Error Message/Dont send) TOPDOG5184 Jan-13-02 8 RE: (Send Error Message/Dont send) ChooChoo Jan-17-02 9 RE: (Send Error Message/Dont send) Vince Jan-17-02 10 RE: (Send Error Message/Dont send) ChooChoo Jan-18-02 11 RE: (Send Error Message/Dont send) Vince Jan-18-02 12 RE: (Send Error Message/Dont send) rjdiii Jan-18-02 13

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ace6879 (598 posts)
Jan-11-02, 03:11 PM (EST) 1. "RE: (Send Error Message/Dont send)" hOwdy, Mine NEVER get sent!! I have tried to no avail, but it never works!!Kelley

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TAfan (195 posts)
Jan-11-02, 06:26 PM (EST) 2. "RE: (Send Error Message/Dont send)" Do you really want it to send?! I'm always a little dubious of such things - I wouldn't be at all surprised if, along with the error code for TrainSim, it also sends along a nice little inventory of your registry, your serial numbers, and and any personal information it can get it's hands on from Windows... Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
jtsdadinaz (44 posts)
Jan-11-02, 06:43 PM (EST) 3. "RE: (Send Error Message/Dont send)" My system just locks up when I try to send an error code..I just hit don't any more.. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Vince (69 posts)
Jan-12-02, 01:53 AM (EST) 4. "RE: (Send Error Message/Dont send)" It actually does get sent but...the error reporter (and whatever else it reports) locks the system for 5 to 6 minutes. Gawd! I do send them because I figure they DO need reports if we ever want a fix for all this bugware. Also you must be logged on to your ISP at the time you start the reporter or it will lock the system requiring a reset/reboot. Way cool Microscum!
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mrmike (39 posts)
Jan-12-02, 10:38 AM (EST) 5. "RE: (Send Error Message/Dont send)" Hi all;
According to Microsoft, All error msgs.in train sim are forward to kuju
at their request. So perhaps something is being worked on.
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beadyboy (128 posts)
Jan-12-02, 06:24 PM (EST) 6. "RE: (Send Error Message/Dont send)" Soon you should get a reply:Thankyou from the Microsoft team. We have all your personal information, secrets, serial numbers, software versions, passwords and internet irq's. We have your credit card numbers, email messages recieved and sent, icq messages recieved and sent if any, we have all your pictures, sounds, files, and visited web page history. But best of all we also have your unregistered versions of microsoft products.An anti piracy taskforce has been dispatched to remove all electronic equipment you have relating to a computer and an all expenses paid trip with accomodation to your local county jail.Thankyou for your kind response to our product. We hope your life wasn't in the middle of something coz it's all over now.Regards, Microsoft Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Vince (69 posts)
Jan-13-02, 00:12 AM (EST) 7. "RE: (Send Error Message/Dont send)" Well Beadyboy, I guess if you are a software pirate you should take care. But do remember, every time you hook up to the net lots of info gets sent. Do you really know what? Be careful now.

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TOPDOG5184 (526 posts)
Jan-13-02, 00:20 AM (EST) 8. "RE: (Send Error Message/Dont send)" Hey beadyboy you forgot to mention that they are also going to lockup your brain like your computer does when you hit the send button requiring you to start out as a kid again only this time in an adults body.LMAO. Craig ShortinoP.S. love that "hope your life wasn't in the middle of something coz it's all over now" line. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
ChooChoo (4 posts)
Jan-17-02, 07:36 PM (EST) 9. "RE: (Send Error Message/Dont send)" Whenever I push the "send" button, my computer freezes and I must do a hard reboot. So I guess its working the way MS intended it to, huh? Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Vince (69 posts)
Jan-17-02, 09:41 PM (EST) 10. "RE: (Send Error Message/Dont send)" ChooChoo writes:
>Whenever I push the "send" button, my computer freezes and I >must do a hard reboot. So I guess its working the way MS >intended it to, huh? No, you just didn't read the 4th post in this thread.Vince Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
ChooChoo (4 posts)
Jan-18-02, 00:03 AM (EST) 11. "RE: (Send Error Message/Dont send)" Vince writes:
>No, you just didn't read the
>4th post in this thread.
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>Vince
Actually I read the fourth post first, then I read the third post second, the second third and the first fourth. I may be dyslexic, but I still know a system crash when I see one.
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Vince (69 posts)
Jan-18-02, 03:23 PM (EST) 12. "RE: (Send Error Message/Dont send)" ChooChoo writes:
>Actually I read the fourth post first, then I read the third >post second, the second third and the first fourth. I may be >dyslexic, but I still know a system crash when I see one. Here's the sequence of events when the Send button is pressed.
I press the Send Report button. The system *WILL* completly freeze for *FIVE TO SIX MINUTES* (5 to 6 minutes) depending on your processor speed and amount of RAM installed.
(mine is 866P3/512Meg)
I do mean *COMPLETLY FREEZE*. The clock even stops running and it is not possible to move the mouse pointer.
(Yeah, I know, what the hell is the "Cancel" button for if you can't press it?)
If you are *NOT* connected to the net *AT THE TIME THE SEND REPORT BUTTON IS PRESSED*, you are correct, you will need to do a reboot.
BUT, if you are connected, after the 5 to 6 minutes pass the report gets sent.
What is going on during these 5 to 6 minutes? Not exactly sure but I can speculate based on 32 years experience as a field tecnician with IBM.
A dump of all relevant storage locations for the error is being formatted. The system is frozen because the error formatter wants to prevent any changes to the data that is to be sent, thus preserving the validity of the data.
Do you realize that *thousands* of machine instructions need to be processed just to move the mouse pointer across your display screen? So all processing in stopped to preserve the report data, data that could/would be corrupted by even a simple thing like moving the mouse or updating the system clock.

I admit the first few times I sent (or tried to send) the error report, I did a reset button reboot as I waited staring at an electric rock display screen, then did the reset after a few minutes. I was not successful in sending a report until I upgraded to a cable modem. With AOL as my ISP the error reporter *NEVER* worked.
I can speculate on that too, the freezing of the system for that length of time caused the AOL connection to terminate and I was left with the electric rock, requiring a reboot. With a cable LAN connection the error report sending works every time. I just go get myself a cuppa coffee and relax a bit, the report goes out and the system returns to normal.Vince Cockeram
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rjdiii (25 posts)
Jan-18-02, 08:16 PM (EST) 13. "RE: (Send Error Message/Dont send)" Just remember the great caveat "editors and tools are not supported". So they probably have a filter that looks for editor related signatures in the problem data and sends them to the bit bucket. I've actually gotten that screen very few times in the sim itself. It's not too hard to see why the editors and tools are unsupported.Kuju developed the routes in the sim with those tools so they are aware of the "problems". The question is, do you think they will put any effort into correcting them or just go for the MS model of creeping featurism instead. Speaking of which, I've got to get rid of that green grassy hill background in the new "organic" XP interface. I keep trying to lay track on it!RichardRichard Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

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