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newalex (10 posts)
Jan-04-02, 06:46 PM (EST) "Track object class" It is a pity to try to search a track section in the route editor ....
Can anybody give me a "recette" to clarify this complicated class "track section" ?Is it possible to separate all the objects in tunnel, curve, straight subclass for example to facilitate selection?I dream of an file explorer function like in Windows: it seems that is a MS product, isn't it.....
Alex
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Subject Author Message Date ID RE: Track object class steve_jacks Jan-04-02 1 RE: Track object class akochan Jan-04-02 2 RE: Track object class sniper297 Jan-04-02 3 RE: Track object class newalex Jan-05-02 4 RE: Track object class Motley24Crue2 Jan-06-02 5

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steve_jacks (3 posts)
Jan-04-02, 08:35 PM (EST) 1. "RE: Track object class" You are not alone my friend... Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
akochan (321 posts)
Jan-04-02, 08:39 PM (EST) 2. "RE: Track object class" If you seperate track sections from each other it just takes longer to get to the one's you need. Their names seperate them as much as they need to be seperated.-Andy
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sniper297 (1256 posts)
Jan-04-02, 10:22 PM (EST) 3. "RE: Track object class" The problem is that they're in the tsection.dat file and not in the ref, and the tsection.dat file is very touchy about how you edit it. See some of the "Xtracks" threads for the problems involved in adding new track sections.
That said, once you get used to the alphanumeric order, it isn't that hard to search for the piece you need. Alphabetical order everyone is familiar with, alphanumeric adds numbers above letters. So "apple" comes before "banana", but "1banana" comes before "apple" because the number 1 comes before the letter A. To add further confusion to this, eleven comes before 2, because eleven is one-one. Therefore, 1banana, 10banana, 11banana, 12banana, on up to 19banana, then comes 2banana, and 20banana if it's in there will show up in the list before 3banana. Definitely drive ya bananas until you figure it out.
All the single track sections except dynamic start with A1t, so it's the 4th character that starts the sorting process. That's why 50 meter straights and 500 meter straights and 500 meter radius curves are together, A1t500mstrt.s, A1t500r10d.s (identical up to the 7th character, and m comes before r), A1t500r10dRndtun.s (identical up to the 10th character, blank comes before everything on the 11th), then the regular tunnel section (R comes before T) and then the next length. 10d, 20d, 5d, because the sequence is 1,2,5. After all those is the 50 meter straight, because 500 comes before 50m, zero having precedence over M in the 6th character.
So when you're looking for a track piece, thinking about the number or letter it starts with is a good way to at least find the section it's in quickly. Obviously buffer, endpnt, lftpnt and rgtpnt (switches) and usbuffer, xover, ypoint are going to come after all the numbers, but with the A1T prefix they come before the A2t double track sections.
The only thing that still screws me up is I sometimes get a A1t1500r10d.s when I wanted a A1t500r10d.s, it's easy to miss that little bitty extra number one in there. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
newalex (10 posts)
Jan-05-02, 06:56 PM (EST) 4. "RE: Track object class" >The problem is that they're in the tsection.dat file and not
>in the ref, and the tsection.dat file is very touchy...
>See some of the "Xtracks" threads for the problems involved
>in adding new track sections. I read the related threads and... it is more complicate than I could imagine!!!!>That said, once you get used to the alphanumeric order, it
>isn't that hard to search for the piece you need.
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>To add further confusion to this, eleven comes before 2,
>because eleven is one-one....Yes, this is the common alphabetic order, but the ordonance in the name is not the best...
In some folder in my computer, to solve this type of problem, I add a specific digit in first place in order to enforce the precedence: it is very usefull but in MSTS, it is impossible, alas!!!!
Thanks for all the explanations.....
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Motley24Crue2 (267 posts)
Jan-06-02, 02:28 AM (EST) 5. "RE: Track object class" ahh you'll get used to it after a while Bob Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

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