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riograndedude (44 posts)
Dec-15-01, 11:39 PM (EST) "Has the Califiorna Zepher Died ???(and Royal Gorge)" Hey what happened to the Moffat, Royal Gorge, and Western Pacific lines everyone was so ancious about,has the "UP" gobbled them up. Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
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Subject Author Message Date ID RE: Has the Califiorna Zepher Died ... NickF Dec-16-01 1 RE: Has the Califiorna Zepher Died ... Motley24Crue2 Dec-16-01 2 RE: Has the Califiorna Zepher Died ... NickF Dec-17-01 14 RE: Has the Califiorna Zepher Died ... rdfox Dec-17-01 13 RE: Has the Califiorna Zepher Died ... WestSlopeRRfan Dec-16-01 3 RE: Has the Califiorna Zepher Died ... Nalle13 Dec-16-01 4 RE: Has the Califiorna Zepher Died ... SP9800 Dec-16-01 6 RE: Has the Califiorna Zepher Died ... Nalle13 Dec-16-01 9 RE: Has the Califiorna Zepher Died ... steam4me Dec-16-01 10 RE: Has the Califiorna Zepher Died ... SP9800 Dec-17-01 12 RE: Has the Califiorna Zepher Died ... riograndedude Dec-16-01 5 RE: Has the Califiorna Zepher Died ... SP9800 Dec-16-01 7 RE: Has the Califiorna Zepher Died ... Vern Dec-16-01 8 RE: Has the Califiorna Zepher Died ... rdamurphy Dec-16-01 11

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NickF (529 posts)
Dec-16-01, 00:20 AM (EST) 1. "RE: Has the Califiorna Zepher Died ???(and Royal Gorge)" I'm still hackin' at the Royal Gorge. The main issue is that when TS Modeler was released, I decided to do some of the distinctive building and other objects along the route, and I'm trying to learn both that and PSP 7 at the same time. Actually with some success.Right now I'm in the final stages of building a blast furnace and other processing buildings for the CF&I steel plant, I'm trying to figure out how to texture the REALLY distinctive passenger station at Pueblo, and build a bunch of prototype bridges so I can get rid of all the European stuff.Here are some shots of the work in progress.

I also built the 3 one piece highway viaducts that cross the yards at Pueblo, and am also working on the warehouses and other buildings around the passenget station. It's taking longer than I thought, but I'm getting better at it.NickF
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Motley24Crue2 (214 posts)
Dec-16-01, 01:33 AM (EST) 2. "RE: Has the Califiorna Zepher Died ???(and Royal Gorge)" Nick, are you going to Release those buildings?(Can't build em my self until I can get the Program which will, my Fiance says Christmas" So I've been downloading the Buildings Available in the Files Section but i can't wait to get Microsoft Sim Modeler because the Route im working on is Heavily industrial (And the default buildings don't cut it) Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
NickF (529 posts)
Dec-17-01, 02:45 PM (EST) 14. "RE: Has the Califiorna Zepher Died ???(and Royal Gorge)" Robert,I hadn't really thought about releasing them; I wasn't sure anybody was interested. I need to do a complete rework on the bridges in the screenshots because they are real poly hogs (I build them as a test project using actual prototype structural shapes,) but I'm getting better at it. There's another thread here where I posted a 50 ft deck plate bridge that only has 78 polys.I may wait until I get a bunch more practice before I inflict this stuff on anybody else.My plan was to make as much stuff as I could as generic as possible so that I could use it in multiple locations. I guess that means that other people coule use them on other routes.Having said that, drop me an e-mail at nfitzsimmons@earthlink.net. I could use a beta tester or two. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
rdfox (75 posts)
Dec-17-01, 12:24 PM (EST) 13. "RE: Has the Califiorna Zepher Died ???(and Royal Gorge)" Gott in Himmel! That yard office and tower looks EXACTLY like the one at the CN (ex-GTW) yard here in Battle Creek, MI--all it needs is the "GT" wet-noodle lettering.I may not be doing much in the Route Editor (it scared me off when I tried to add *one* signal to the El for my personal use), but PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE release those buildings separately, too, so that other people can use them in their routes. The yard office/tower and the through truss bridges, honestly, could go believably on any US route--and the tower would make yards look much more "real" with the yardmaster having a place to sit. Combine that with the person models that were shown around here recently (any news on them, BTW?), and you could make a truly busy-looking freight yard...RDF
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WestSlopeRRfan (128 posts)
Dec-16-01, 01:43 AM (EST) 3. "RE: Has the Califiorna Zepher Died ???(and Royal Gorge)" LAST EDITED ON Dec-16-01 AT 01:44 AM (EST)Hey RioGrandedude.Your wish will come true, but you'll have to be patient. Unfortunately we all wish we could play MSTS all day, but girlfriends, family, finals, and a difficult route editor, tend to get in the way of building routes. Everyone just wants to make the best possible routes so you can REALLY enjoy them. The day will come when you can drive on a lot of Rio Grande turf. Just not for a while. So sit back, maybe read a book about the area, and be paitent. We ALL are as anxious as you!!Nick
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Nalle13 (78 posts)
Dec-16-01, 07:29 AM (EST) 4. "RE: Has the Califiorna Zepher Died ???(and Royal Gorge)" The WP is alive and well, thank you. It hasn't been eaten by the UP on my machine anyway...
Progress is being made, although not as fast as I would like. The mainline is complete and I'm waiting for some track plans so I can do the yard at Portola. Then there's a bunch of buildings and other structures to be built. Plus of course get the signals to work and other little things (Like a couple of million trees!!!!).
Here's a meet at Keddie between Eastbound Zephyr and a WP freight. (I apologize for the nonexistent scenery...)

WP LIVES!!!
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SP9800 (142 posts)
Dec-16-01, 03:36 PM (EST) 6. "RE: Has the Califiorna Zepher Died ???(and Royal Gorge)" Here are some photos of the real Feather River Canyon. Due to trouble linking to photos here, I just created a page on the Web site that links to the photos.http://www.bayarearails.net/frcphotos.html Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Nalle13 (78 posts)
Dec-16-01, 07:13 PM (EST) 9. "RE: Has the Califiorna Zepher Died ???(and Royal Gorge)" Nice pics... Thanks!
BTW, it's tunnel 17.... Nalle Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
steam4me (33 posts)
Dec-16-01, 10:07 PM (EST) 10. "RE: Has the Califiorna Zepher Died ???(and Royal Gorge)"
>Here are some photos of the >http://www.bayarearails.net/frcphotos.html
I click on the links and get......"You are not authorized to view this page
You do not have permission to view this directory or page using the credentials you supplied. "RegardsYuri.

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http://www.railpage.org.au/steam4me/trainsim
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SP9800 (142 posts)
Dec-17-01, 00:50 AM (EST) 12. "RE: Has the Califiorna Zepher Died ???(and Royal Gorge)" Right now I'm having trouble with file permissions on the server. I hope I can get it fixed within the hour though. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
riograndedude (44 posts)
Dec-16-01, 02:56 PM (EST) 5. "RE: Has the Califiorna Zepher Died ???(and Royal Gorge)" Thanks for the update everyone, now I've got to go study for my semester finals, for some reason people dont tell High School Freshman like me that there are such things as finals, the only one that I am certin to pass is my Auto 1 final. Only 4 more other finals to study for.Behold the POWER of Black and Gold: THE RIO GRANDE RAILROAD. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
SP9800 (142 posts)
Dec-16-01, 03:40 PM (EST) 7. "RE: Has the Califiorna Zepher Died ???(and Royal Gorge)" >Thanks for the update everyone, now
>I've got to go study
>for my semester finals, for
>some reason people dont tell
>High School Freshman like me
>that there are such things
>as finalsI felt the same way last week. I'm glad I'm done with my finals now though. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Vern (81 posts)
Dec-16-01, 04:09 PM (EST) 8. "RE: Has the Califiorna Zepher Died ???(and Royal Gorge)" It's easy to underestimate how long a route will take, in the case of my Inverness to Wick Far North route I was predicting January but now reckon March at the earliest. Some days I spend several hours on it, other days very little time at all if any. Having seen the standard of some of the freeware routes (such as Nahetal), I'm anxious to at least try and come close to that which means including all the little details. Building a route for Train Simulator is a bit like constructing a model railway - in this case a 161 mile one. Like a model railway it takes time to achieve and also one tends to feel it is never quite finished. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
rdamurphy (174 posts)
Dec-16-01, 11:41 PM (EST) 11. "RE: Has the Califiorna Zepher Died ???(and Royal Gorge)" I am still working on the Moffat Tunnel route, however, I have started a new job two weeks ago and it's taking a lot of my time in getting up to speed, also, you have to remember even a modest 50 mile long route contains at least 50 miles of scenery and it sometimes takes a long time to do, the longer you work with the route editor, the better you get at it, but there's still a lot of "ground" to cover. I really want to get my Route out there, and Nick, Nick and I all keep in touch, and we may actually, if the technical aspects can be accomplished, combine all three routes through the use of a common tile, it is something we've discussed. I wish I could build a route in a week, I really do, but I don't want to release something no one is interested in using...Still working on the Railroad...Rob Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

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