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riograndrider (19 posts)
Dec-01-01, 03:22 PM (EST) "I KNOW i have posted this many times but i really still need help" LAST EDITED ON Dec-01-01 AT 04:11 PM (EST)LAST EDITED ON Dec-01-01 AT 04:09 PM (EST)i've went to the search forum and found some things but i just dont get them if someone could please send me some step by step info on HOW TO GET THE TUNNELS INTO THE MOUNTAIN?PS:I HAVE HERD OF THE $15 INFORMATION ON THE ROUTE EDITOR BUT I DONT WANT TO SPEND $15 ON SOMTHING WHEN ALL I NEED IS TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION Daniel Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
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Subject Author Message Date ID RE: I KNOW i have posted this many ... LawrenceKellie Dec-01-01 1 RE: I KNOW i have posted this many ... riograndrider Dec-01-01 2 RE: I KNOW i have posted this many ... riograndrider Dec-01-01 3 RE: I KNOW i have posted this many ... rgarber Dec-01-01 4 RE: I KNOW i have posted this many ... rgarber Dec-01-01 5 RE: I KNOW i have posted this many ... LawrenceKellie Dec-01-01 6 RE: I KNOW i have posted this many ... LawrenceKellie Dec-01-01 7 RE: I KNOW i have posted this many ... Hawk Dec-01-01 8 RE: I KNOW i have posted this many ... LawrenceKellie Dec-01-01 10 RE: I KNOW i have posted this many ... LawrenceKellie Dec-01-01 9 RE: I KNOW i have posted this many ... Hawk Dec-01-01 11 RE: I KNOW i have posted this many ... beluga Dec-01-01 12 RE: I KNOW i have posted this many ... stevo4406 Dec-01-01 13 RE: I KNOW i have posted this many ... riograndrider Dec-01-01 14 RE: I KNOW i have posted this many ... riograndrider Dec-01-01 15 RE: I KNOW i have posted this many ... riograndrider Dec-01-01 16 RE: I KNOW i have posted this many ... sniper297 Dec-02-01 17 RE: I KNOW i have posted this many ... LawrenceKellie Dec-02-01 19 RE: I KNOW i have posted this many ... LawrenceKellie Dec-02-01 18 RE: I KNOW i have posted this many ... LawrenceKellie Dec-02-01 20 RE: I KNOW i have posted this many ... LawrenceKellie Dec-02-01 21 RE: I KNOW i have posted this many ... riograndrider Dec-02-01 22 RE: I KNOW i have posted this many ... danoz_g700 Dec-02-01 23 RE: I KNOW i have posted this many ... LawrenceKellie Dec-02-01 24 RE: I KNOW i have posted this many ... rgarber Dec-02-01 25 RE: I KNOW i have posted this many ... trueman Dec-02-01 26 RE: I KNOW i have posted this many ... LawrenceKellie Dec-02-01 27 RE: I KNOW i have posted this many ... trueman Dec-03-01 28 RE: I KNOW i have posted this many ... danoz_g700 Dec-03-01 29

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LawrenceKellie (817 posts)
Dec-01-01, 03:37 PM (EST) 1. "RE: I KNOW i have posted this many times but i really still need help" 1. Stop SHOUTING.2. You ask for help doing "this." What is "this"?3. If by "this" you mean building a route (and that is a totally wild and crazy assumption on my part), spend the $15. It *is* a step by step guide to route building.4. You say that you searched the forum, but if you searched the forum using the word "this" as your search term (as that is what it appears you are asking for help on), then of course you didn't find much help, because nearly every message has the word "this" in it.A blond (woman or man, does't matter) stops at the car mechanics. The blond says, "My car doesn't work."Mechanic just shakes his/her head.*That* is what your post is like.Lawrence Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
riograndrider (19 posts)
Dec-01-01, 04:14 PM (EST) 2. "RE: I KNOW i have posted this many times but i really still need help" hey lawrence SORRY! so i updated it just for you !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
riograndrider (19 posts)
Dec-01-01, 04:25 PM (EST) 3. "RE: I KNOW i have posted this many times but i really still need help" LAST EDITED ON Dec-01-01 AT 04:31 PM (EST)ya you have a point but you dont have to yell about it so what i made a mistake a STUPID mistake but i fixed it all you had to do was say what is "this", SORRY. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
rgarber (703 posts)
Dec-01-01, 04:50 PM (EST) 4. "RE: I KNOW i have posted this many times but i really still need help" Try this. In the download section is a file called route help 2 or routehelp2... something like that. It will give you the answers and many others to your question and it won't cost you anything. Another guy (can't remember his name) also has pics on a website on how to do tunnels. It should turn up in the search but if you get the route help 2 that will answer your questions. I'll see if I can come up with a link for ya.Rich Garber Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
rgarber (703 posts)
Dec-01-01, 04:56 PM (EST) 5. "RE: I KNOW i have posted this many times but i really still need help" okay.. here's the info if the link don't work....routhlp2.zip http://www.train-sim.com/cgi/kdl/main/7/routhlp2.zip?SWOed00JIt's in the Misc section 900K downloadIt's a pdf uploaded in very early August. You'll need a PDF reader.Hope this helps.Rich Garber Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
LawrenceKellie (817 posts)
Dec-01-01, 05:33 PM (EST) 6. "RE: I KNOW i have posted this many times but i really still need help" Most honored brain filled with mush!I am not the one that did any yelling. In this method of communication, yelling, hollering, shouting is denoted by the use of all upper case letters (By the way, do you know where the phrase "upper case letters" came from?).If you go back and read my response to you, you will note that there is only *one* word that I have in all upper case--the word "SHOUT." It was in all upper case to hopefully instruct you in the fine art of communicating in this manner, which apparently failed. So, if anyone needs some caution in the level of voice (writing in all upper case), it is clearly you, my juvenescent, pugnacious friend.Now, in response to your *still* offensive post, try this.In the Search page, enter the words "Tunnels" and "bnsf4794" as your search terms. Be sure to click on Archives. Click OK. On July 28, 2001, bnsf4794 posted step-by-step instructions. It will be in response to a post by ragmop.Then do another search using "THE SECRET OF THE TUNNEL DISCOVERED" as your search terms. Again, click on Archives. Oh, and I am not hollering by using all upper case letters in the search term. That was how the message was subjected that I found for you.Then do a search using "Tunnel construction" and "simbisi" as your search term. Again, click on Archives. In the June 28, 2001, response to this topic (topic originated by moe) by simbisi, there are step-by-step instructions.Lastly, if none of those are step-by-step enough, try http://users.bigpond.com/cjennin/nswmsts/tunnel/tunnel.html and http://home19.inet.tele.dk/topcatdk/msts/r_tunn.html.Now, I have spent about an hour of my time doing something that you could have found yourself. All I did was a search using the term "tunnel" as my *only* search term. I of course checked the Archive check box because I know that messages have been archived. How do I know that? If you go to the first page of the Routes forum (or any of the others), at the top, you will see a list of numbers. Those are the pages for the forum. Underneath and on the right is the word "Archive," followed by the number of threads in the archive. That tells me that there is more information in an archive which juuuuuuuuuuust may contain something of importance to my search.Now, please perform those searches and read the material.Lawrence Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
LawrenceKellie (817 posts)
Dec-01-01, 05:35 PM (EST) 7. "RE: I KNOW i have posted this many times but i really still need help" You didn't update it just for me. You updated it because you didn't ask anything but information for "this." So, don't blame me for your inability to forumlate questions.Lawrence Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Hawk (233 posts)
Dec-01-01, 05:43 PM (EST) 8. "RE: I KNOW i have posted this many times but i really still need help" LAST EDITED ON Dec-01-01 AT 05:44 PM (EST)Lawrence---
You are a good man. A patient, and good man. I find myself lacking patience.
I hope he appreciates it.
Hawk
"And it comes to be, that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way." Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
LawrenceKellie (817 posts)
Dec-01-01, 05:55 PM (EST) 10. "RE: I KNOW i have posted this many times but i really still need help" There is no doubt in my mind that he will *not* appreciate it.Lawrence Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
LawrenceKellie (817 posts)
Dec-01-01, 05:54 PM (EST) 9. "RE: I KNOW i have posted this many times but i really still need help" "I KNOW i have posted this many times but i really still need help"Don't you just love it when people make absolutely absurd claims! "i have posted this many times...."Well, let's look at how many times. In your vast postings--total 14, of which only 5 are in the Route forum--we will see how many "many" really is.On November 27, 2001, you posted http://www.train-sim.com/dcforum/DCForumID6/2522.html. In it, you asked for help with tunnels, along with almost everything else about the editor. The response you were given was a very good one. You want step-by-step instructions? There is a very good book about that.Second, on November 28, 2001, a mere day later, you made a second post, http://www.train-sim.com/dcforum/DCForumID6/2539.html. In it, you used 14 question marks! You were told by me, and by cyberstorm, to do a search using the term "tunnel" as your search term. (You of course realize that my previous post to you in this thread did that very same thing and uncovered a wealth of information.)Third and fourth post. On November 29, 2001, less than 8 hours after your second post! What's with this? Do you think that you have hundreds of people at your beck and call to drop everything that they are doing to answer your every whine? In this one, you employ a new tactic. You start writing in all caps! You are told, of course, to stop that. You are given essentially the same answers as before--are we seeing a pattern here? Your response, by the way, in your exquisite writing style, is "thanks t.k that helped i feel alot better now." By the way, I have a question for you. Your "handle" is riograndrider; in your profile, your name is listed as Glen Johnson, and you signed the above message where you say "i feel alot better now" as "daniel." Who are you?In fact, T.K. (not "t.k") stated to "Remember that (meaning to stop shouting) to your next question." Apparently, you have a very short memory.Post 5. You regal us with your understanding of the Route Editor, but there was no question. Total to this point--Three times.Now comes this message.So, here we see that "many" equals three.If that is the case, you have been told, at least, "many" times to stop shouting!I hope that the next question you post where you use all upper case characters for *any* word, you are totally ignored.Lawrence Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Hawk (233 posts)
Dec-01-01, 07:52 PM (EST) 11. "RE: I KNOW i have posted this many times but i really still need help" Damn Son! You did your homework. A+ for you!!!!!
Hawk"And it comes to be, that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way." Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
beluga (93 posts)
Dec-01-01, 08:28 PM (EST) 12. "RE: I KNOW i have posted this many times but i really still need help" WTG Lawrence. I find it amazing, bewildering and delightful that you took out the time to explain this poster's complete lack of taste, proper protocol, and intelligence.
Regards,
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stevo4406 (10 posts)
Dec-01-01, 10:15 PM (EST) 13. "RE: I KNOW i have posted this many times but i really still need help" Lawrence you know what you talking about and i really respect you ......just wanted to tell you that
And dido about this guy....he doesn't know alot about proticall Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
riograndrider (19 posts)
Dec-01-01, 10:27 PM (EST) 14. "RE: I KNOW i have posted this many times but i really still need help" thanks lawrence, sorry for being an *ss hole but i've been in a bad mood today, thanks again and i am sorry daniel Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
riograndrider (19 posts)
Dec-01-01, 10:32 PM (EST) 15. "RE: I KNOW i have posted this many times but i really still need help" LAST EDITED ON Dec-01-01 AT 10:34 PM (EST)i am his son im on it most of the time but i just use his name riograndrider because i dont feel like i want to get my own log in name.maybe i will some day Daniel Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
riograndrider (19 posts)
Dec-01-01, 10:41 PM (EST) 16. "RE: I KNOW i have posted this many times but i really still need help" by the way i may have use exclamation point once but when i use caps it DOES not mean that im yelling unless i have put exclamation point behind it Daniel Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
sniper297 (989 posts)
Dec-02-01, 00:46 AM (EST) 17. "RE: I KNOW i have posted this many times but i really still need help" Guess I should toss my two cents in here. I'm a Father of 4, Grandfather of 13, Uncle of 20 (or so, lost count), and an Elementary School Teacher's Aide. So I usually have a lot more patience than most with kids, and altho this forum has mostly adults on it, I don't have any problem sharing ideas with well-behaved children. "Kewl Doodz" hawking crack codes for illegal software are not going to find any friends here, and the kind of juvenile behavior that goes on in adolescent-oriented chat rooms is not welcomed by most either.
I'm always willing to help anyone, there are 3 reasons why I don't respond to a post;1. I don't know the answer either.2. You didn't really make it clear exactly what you're trying to do, and exactly what problem you are having.3. HELP!!!!!! HELP!!!!!!!!!!! URGENT!!!!!!!!! PLEASE!!!!!!!! QUICKLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I have absolutely no problem with bad spelling, punctuation, or grammer, but screaming for immediate help is something that will cause me to ignore you completely, even if I understand the question and know the answer. I saw one of my former students yesterday for the first time since she caught a stray bullet in a gang war shootout a few months ago, the slug went in behind her jawbone and exited just above the right side of her upper lip. It doesn't look as bad as I expected, when I went to see her in the hospital after she got shot she looked like the Elephant Man, now it's just a big shiny ragged scar over her mouth. But it's still noticable even from across the room, and when I compare some kid's distress at not being able to use something that was designed for adult computer experts with the problems of a 7-year old girl who's disfigured for life, your troubles don't really move me to tears.Try to have a little patience, I don't expect you to be completely mature, kids aren't supposed to be mature yet. But take some time to do a search, post your question as calmly and as clearly as you can, and while you are waiting for someone to answer, spend some time just browsing through the other threads - you may not accidently stumble over the answer, but you will probably learn something else that will keep you from having similar problems with the next new thing you try.Jim Ward
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LawrenceKellie (817 posts)
Dec-02-01, 01:50 AM (EST) 19. "RE: I KNOW i have posted this many times but i really still need help" Very succinct thoughts. Lawrence Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
LawrenceKellie (817 posts)
Dec-02-01, 01:49 AM (EST) 18. "RE: I KNOW i have posted this many times but i really still need help" It doesn't matter what you mean by it, it matters what the community in which you are communicating means by it. Therefore, if all upper case writing means shouting, then it doesn't matter that it doesn't to you.Let me give you an example.Many years ago, in front of a 70-year-old school teacher, I said "bugger." Now to me--in my early 20s, a Yankee--it meant someone who bugs you, bothers you. Well that didn't matter one iota. Because to this old school marm, who came from a British background, "bugger" meant something totally different. It didn't matter what definition I was using, the group in which I used it had a different definition.The same for you saying your using all upper case letters doesn't mean that you are shouting unless you put exclamation points after it. That is moot, because to the community to who you are trying to communicate, it means shouting.Lawrence Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
LawrenceKellie (817 posts)
Dec-02-01, 01:52 AM (EST) 20. "RE: I KNOW i have posted this many times but i really still need help" I would suggest that you get your own account, as you have, over the past several days, given a bad name to your father--or whoever posts under that handle. Think about it.Lawrence Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
LawrenceKellie (817 posts)
Dec-02-01, 01:52 AM (EST) 21. "RE: I KNOW i have posted this many times but i really still need help" Your forgiven. Lawrence Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
riograndrider (19 posts)
Dec-02-01, 02:42 AM (EST) 22. "RE: I KNOW i have posted this many times but i really still need help" thanks lawrence and i have learned a lesson not to use caps and i will get my own account it is going to be "danoz_g700"sounds good? hope to hear from you soon Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
danoz_g700 (2 posts)
Dec-02-01, 02:49 AM (EST) 23. "RE: I KNOW i have posted this many times but i really still need help" hey its me daniel as danoz_g700

later,daniel Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
LawrenceKellie (817 posts)
Dec-02-01, 03:45 AM (EST) 24. "RE: I KNOW i have posted this many times but i really still need help" Very good. Lawrence Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
rgarber (703 posts)
Dec-02-01, 07:16 AM (EST) 25. "RE: I KNOW i have posted this many times but i really still need help" Well.. I don't want to be rude and interupt this little love-fest you'all got going here... but the original post was about tunnels???? Did you ever get the help file and find what you are looking for... in the way of tunnels???Rich Garber Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
trueman (29 posts)
Dec-02-01, 07:22 PM (EST) 26. "RE: I KNOW i have posted this many times but i really still need help" Daniel;Many of the people who answered your enquiry are not children. But their bullying and rude behaviour is, indeed, childish. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
LawrenceKellie (817 posts)
Dec-02-01, 08:12 PM (EST) 27. "RE: I KNOW i have posted this many times but i really still need help" Thank you for your assistance in this. Of course, your incredible insight into the problems of the world will qualify you for President of the United States. Then you can smoke cigars like our ex-president did.Before you start claiming who is what, be sure of your facts.Lawrence Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
trueman (29 posts)
Dec-03-01, 06:39 PM (EST) 28. "RE: I KNOW i have posted this many times but i really still need help" I was, of course, addressing my reply to Daniel (who has done nothing to deserve your wrath). However, your response is most welcome, since it proves my point.Model railroading is supposed to be fun; but it doesn't seem to be helping you at all. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
danoz_g700 (2 posts)
Dec-03-01, 06:48 PM (EST) 29. "RE: I KNOW i have posted this many times but i really still need help" yes i have found out what to do with the tunnels(finally)i just decided to look really hard and it worked thanks again everyone and trueman you should go back through this post and read all the theads thanks for you support anyway. thanks everyone,
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