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rdamon (63 posts)
Nov-05-01, 10:07 AM (EST) ""BNSF Crawford Hill - Route in progress"" I haven't seen any updates about this route that JohnCS was working on in a while... The initial screen shots looked great!Does any one have any info on this project or ones similar?My Coalporters are getting restless up in Montana!!!!!
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Subject Author Message Date ID RE: "BNSF Crawford Hill - Route in ... JohnCS Nov-11-01 1 RE: "BNSF Crawford Hill - Route in ... henry3 Nov-11-01 2 RE: "BNSF Crawford Hill - Route in ... Shogun703 Nov-11-01 3 RE: "BNSF Crawford Hill - Route in ... henry3 Nov-12-01 4 RE: "BNSF Crawford Hill - Route in ... rdamon Nov-12-01 5 RE: "BNSF Crawford Hill - Route in ... JohnCS Dec-23-01 6 RE: "BNSF Crawford Hill - Route in ... ozinoz Dec-24-01 7 RE: "BNSF Crawford Hill - Route in ... henry3 Dec-24-01 8 RE: "BNSF Crawford Hill - Route in ... rgarber Dec-24-01 9 RE: "BNSF Crawford Hill - Route in ... JohnCS Dec-24-01 10 RE: "BNSF Crawford Hill - Route in ... rgarber Dec-24-01 11 RE: "BNSF Crawford Hill - Route in ... JohnCS Dec-25-01 12 RE: "BNSF Crawford Hill - Route in ... landnrailroader Dec-25-01 13 RE: "BNSF Crawford Hill - Route in ... compu Jan-21-02 19 RE: "BNSF Crawford Hill - Route in ... JohnCS Jan-15-02 14 RE: "BNSF Crawford Hill - Route in ... Motley24Crue2 Jan-15-02 15 RE: "BNSF Crawford Hill - Route in ... JohnCS Jan-15-02 16 RE: "BNSF Crawford Hill - Route in ... cimmer Jan-16-02 17 RE: "BNSF Crawford Hill - Route in ... SD80MAC Jan-16-02 18

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JohnCS (248 posts)
Nov-11-01, 10:33 AM (EST) 1. "RE: "BNSF Crawford Hill - Route in progress"" The project isn't dead, though it would be hard to tell from the progress made the past 2 months. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
henry3 (497 posts)
Nov-11-01, 12:50 PM (EST) 2. "RE: "BNSF Crawford Hill - Route in progress"" >The project isn't dead, though it
>would be hard to tell
>from the progress made the
>past 2 months. Glad to hear that it's still a "go". Don't worry about a lack of progress. Most of us understand how it is with creating. Sometimes your "Muse" just isn't speaking to you. And then there's real life that's always trying to muscle in....Henry
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Shogun703 (11 posts)
Nov-11-01, 04:39 PM (EST) 3. "RE: "BNSF Crawford Hill - Route in progress"" Keep up the good work, because we are all cheering for you like a bunch of cheerleaders LOL Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
henry3 (497 posts)
Nov-12-01, 11:13 AM (EST) 4. "RE: "BNSF Crawford Hill - Route in progress"" LAST EDITED ON Nov-12-01 AT 11:14 AM (EST)"Ready? Okay!"Brick-a-brack-a, firecracker,
Sis boom bah!
Crawford! Crawford!
Rah! Rah! Rah!" Henry Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
rdamon (63 posts)
Nov-12-01, 11:20 AM (EST) 5. "RE: "BNSF Crawford Hill - Route in progress""
Go! Crawford!!!
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JohnCS (248 posts)
Dec-23-01, 05:10 PM (EST) 6. "RE: "BNSF Crawford Hill - Route in progress"" I've actually gotten a little bit done on the Crawford hill route. Scenery on the west 5 miles is complete now, although I'm averaging about 10 hours per mile. Seems I have TOO much information on the route. Placing every tree, structure and pole in the right spot takes too much time!Here's a westbound coal empty leaving Crawford (Those beautiful MAC70's c/o Train Artisan):
Rolling through farmland towards Joder:


An eastbound load approaching the crest of the grade at Belmont:


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ozinoz (125 posts)
Dec-24-01, 12:05 PM (EST) 7. "RE: "BNSF Crawford Hill - Route in progress"" Stunning screen shots Am planning to hit this line on our proposed trip to the US next year, along with Powder River, Cheyenne etc. Excellent work..."enjoy the process as well as the finished result"Cheers,OZ Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
henry3 (497 posts)
Dec-24-01, 12:32 PM (EST) 8. "RE: "BNSF Crawford Hill - Route in progress"" Oh, my!Those screenshots look gorgeous! If I didn't know better, I'd have thought that I was looking at pictures, particularly in the first one. I can't wait to run my EL bethgons through there behind those BNSF macs!Good job! Just drop us a line in the forum every so often to keep us abreast of your progress.Thanks!Henry Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
rgarber (1049 posts)
Dec-24-01, 05:47 PM (EST) 9. "RE: "BNSF Crawford Hill - Route in progress"" Ahhh... I'm having this problem too... DEMs are wonderful.. but how do you fill up the scenery without killing the frame rate. If you go forest objects, the game stutters while it recalcs. If you go fixed vegetation the tile size gets huge. This is becoming a real battle because the DEMs make it so gorgeous but you see so much farther than when I manipulated my own mountains in the Metro. This is truly getting to be a puzzle. Have you found a nice compromise?Rich Garber Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
JohnCS (248 posts)
Dec-24-01, 07:51 PM (EST) 10. "RE: "BNSF Crawford Hill - Route in progress"" "Honor the prototype, frame rates be damned!"Seriously, I haven't run into too much of a framerate problem yet - at least compared to what I see on some routes (LTV runs at 1fps on my P500 TNT at the ore docks). I use transfers for the ROW roads however and take a pretty good framerate hit just from them. Just doesn't look right without them however, and making a custom texture for each patch is out of the question.I use alot of the treeline objects when I can - they're good for making view blocks. We could use some more of them for deciduous type trees. I did decide to only model what can be seen from the cab-view. Trying to encompass enough for the overhead views (2&3) just entails too much. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
rgarber (1049 posts)
Dec-24-01, 10:00 PM (EST) 11. "RE: "BNSF Crawford Hill - Route in progress"" Makes sense. I typically do go for the overhead view though... Partly I have areas which are elevated above the surrounding scenery too. You can see a good distance out of the cab. I'm still working on it though.BTW... How do you have the LTV route? I was under the impression it wasn't available yet. You a beta tester?Rich Garber Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
JohnCS (248 posts)
Dec-25-01, 08:45 AM (EST) 12. "RE: "BNSF Crawford Hill - Route in progress"" Re LTV: I do believe it is shipping now. No I'm not on the beta team, but I got mine yesterday. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
landnrailroader (134 posts)
Dec-25-01, 10:13 AM (EST) 13. "RE: "BNSF Crawford Hill - Route in progress"" Although I don't plan to download this route, as I am an eastern RR fan mostly, I find John's treatment of scenery absolutely stunning. I was particularly impressed with his inclusion of the abandoned tunnel and approach cuts at the crest of the hill. I wonder if MS is looking at any of this stuff and wondering if they might offer it as a add-on in the future. They have done that more than once with FS products.J. H. Sullivan, P.E. (retired) Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
compu (1 posts)
Jan-21-02, 07:02 PM (EST) 19. "RE: "BNSF Crawford Hill - Route in progress"" WOW great work, my guess is your in TEXAS, any Idea when your release will be, good work like that needs to be used Hogger6060
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JohnCS (248 posts)
Jan-15-02, 11:06 PM (EST) 14. "RE: "BNSF Crawford Hill - Route in progress"" Another 4 miles have been sceniced since the last update.Eastbound out of Crawford, we are about to see the last of the farmland for a while as we begin to hit the grade.
Although its been visible in the distance for many miles (the beauty of 'distant mountains') the challenge of crossing Nebraska's Pine Ridge becomes apparent at MP 418 As our grain train enters the 'lower horseshoe' the 1.8% ruling grade becomes apparent.

Every track, every road, every structure, every vegetation stand, and every farmplot accurately place for 7 miles to date, 10 miles to go.
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Motley24Crue2 (320 posts)
Jan-15-02, 11:20 PM (EST) 15. "RE: "BNSF Crawford Hill - Route in progress"" JohnCShow did you get the Roadbed to look like that, i guess it's a Simple question Bob... Philly, Pa Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
JohnCS (248 posts)
Jan-15-02, 11:24 PM (EST) 16. "RE: "BNSF Crawford Hill - Route in progress"" The farmland & cuts are custom terrain textures (111 at last count).The right-of-way roads are literally hundreds of transfers. (framerates have stayed managable though IMHO). Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
cimmer (9 posts)
Jan-16-02, 03:10 PM (EST) 17. "RE: "BNSF Crawford Hill - Route in progress"" John, this looks great, I been out there a couple of times and you have captured the true feel of the area. If you need anyone to help test this route I would be more than happy to assist you. Keep up the great work.
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SD80MAC (571 posts)
Jan-16-02, 03:34 PM (EST) 18. "RE: "BNSF Crawford Hill - Route in progress"" John!I'm overwhemed with excitment!...Modern railroading at it's finest.Can't wait for this one...well i guess i have too.Will your route be avaliable on cd? Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

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