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rgarber (204 posts)
Oct-03-01, 12:09 PM (EST) "We need this..." What would be a great help to us route builders is if we had a reference to how some of these industries layout their track work. I'm guessing, obviously, when I do my stuff. I do have a handy book called Track Planning for Realistic Operation by Kalmback, and it does go into this subject a bit. But it would be great to see how refineries, businesses typically set up the track work. Anybody got any ideas where I can find this kind of information?Richard Garber Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
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Subject Author Message Date ID RE: We need this... Xerxes Oct-03-01 1 RE: We need this... Xacto Oct-03-01 2 RE: We need this... rgarber Oct-03-01 3 RE: We need this... lrperkins Oct-03-01 4 RE: We need this... CactusBoy Oct-04-01 5 RE: We need this... Brinch Oct-04-01 6

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Xerxes (47 posts)
Oct-03-01, 05:48 PM (EST) 1. "RE: We need this..." Hmmmmm, yes. I'd like to have some info like this also. Does the book you mentioned have enough in it for us to use? I don't like to buy a book for which 90% is unusable.
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Xacto (506 posts)
Oct-03-01, 09:46 PM (EST) 2. "RE: We need this..." Model railroad magazines sometimes will profile a particular industry and offer some modeling guidelines and structure drawings along with trackplans of the industry's facilities. Model Railroader did one on the automobile industry a while back and I have also seen a distillery, coal mine/breaker complex, asphalt plant, and other types of industries. Of course, this is only helpful if you have access to a library of magazines, but perhaps a friend or a local model railroad club might have them available.I understand your interest because many of the sidings and industry trackage in TS seem rather unplanned or unresearched in my opinion.Cliff Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
rgarber (204 posts)
Oct-03-01, 11:36 PM (EST) 3. "RE: We need this..." Well... hmm.. not really. It's an older mag/book that's been around for a long time. It's specificially tailored for model railroading. So I would say you'll get maybe 30% worth of decent material and then the rest is more for the hobby. It's not expensive though, or it shouldn't be. I don't know if this helps or not. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
lrperkins (95 posts)
Oct-03-01, 11:56 PM (EST) 4. "RE: We need this..." I also have this book. I had purchased this book a year or two ago, and I also have found it to be somewhat useful. It does help explain the way some things are laid out the way that they are for prototypical operation.Lonnie
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CactusBoy (248 posts)
Oct-04-01, 08:04 PM (EST) 5. "RE: We need this..." I don't know how this will help you, but I can give you a quick walkthrough of the ex Seaboard Line Yard (Now Georgia central and lacking several tracks) progressed through Lyons and Vidalia Ga.Coming into Lyons, the track went double track...having a single spur that went down a horridly high grade to reach a oil company. (now defunct and tracks removed) This siding was rather straight forward; Just down to the bumper and that's it...held maybe two cars.Further in, the double track section also served to allow cars to be shunted to a grain company. (giving the railroad a runaround) Before being reconstituted into the main line approx 1 mile down the line. Then, coming into Vidalia, you find a SLEW of spurs and sidings...(all gone...but I've maps) In order, you first have the old hospital siding. Coal cars were shunted back onto the spur to allow the furnace and incinerators to have fuel. This spur was simple, one long curve, ending in a pit that the coal was dumped into. On the otherside of the main, a series of three tracks branched off; all leading into seperate points of a "pole" yard and lumber company. Entering the yard, the outside track was used for industry. The spurs broke in several directions...all straight forward (no cross over and so on) at least, Until you get past the steel company spur. This spur, splitting a building; originally ran across the road, and down into what is now a parking lot for the store I manage. At one time, a large lumber mill was there; and this spur was more of a branch line. (given that the mill had its own locomotives) The mill laid tracks as they needed them...giving a real spaghetti look to things. Later, after the mill closed, this spur continued to be used to store cars and so on. Further down is the remains of the old Oil company; and then the connection to the Southern Railways Branch.Further through town you have the remainder of the engine yards, turntable, and coaling towers.If you need to know how industries build tracks; It's simple. They sprawl them out and leave for the railroad to figure it out. Typically, the buildings come first...so the railroad has to (as the description says) go through and around them.Hope this helps some.
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Brinch (2 posts)
Oct-04-01, 10:28 PM (EST) 6. "RE: We need this..." LAST EDITED ON Oct-04-01 AT 10:31 PM (EST)LAST EDITED ON Oct-04-01 AT 10:29 PM (EST)Is it something like this you are looking for?
"http://gelwood.railfan.net/map/cleve-1.gif";
"http://gelwood.railfan.net/map/cleve-10.gif";
(Cut and paste the links because the pics are pretty big)
they come from this page(where there is more good stuff):http://www.dnaco.net/~gelwood/other/bo.htmlfound here(If you are designing real world routes you probably know this site):http://www.dnaco.net/~gelwood/index.htmlyou can then use it in combination withwww.maptech.com (online mapserver) and
www.terraserver.com to get some overview and exact locationI know the maps are pretty old (1937) but this is just an example, there is loads of stuff at the Fallen Flags railway photos for routebuilders and train builders. It works best with a fast internet connection but the speed is decent with my single ISDN connection(64 k) There is also some tables at http://www.dnaco.net/~gelwood/index.html with various routes which can be very usefull for searching on maptech and terraserver.I dont know if it's any help but you can also try:
http://www.trainweb.org/railwaytechnical/ This site has some decent general railway information and some good linksI hope it can help youPeter Brinch Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

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