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akochan (18 posts)
Sep-27-01, 09:50 AM (EST) "Drive problems" Help!
I am trying to load up MSTS on my Vic20 and the CD won't fit into my cassette drive. Can someone copy it onto a cassette for me?-Andy
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Subject Author Message Date ID RE: Drive problems dmikulec Sep-27-01 1 RE: Drive problems Boweavel Sep-27-01 2 RE: Drive problems dmikulec Sep-27-01 3 RE: Drive problems stationmaster Sep-27-01 4 RE: Drive problems dmikulec Sep-27-01 5 RE: Drive problems Boweavel Sep-27-01 6 RE: Drive problems Jak_Fearon Sep-30-01 13 RE: Drive problems HAC Oct-03-01 20 RE: Drive problems eblong Oct-11-01 35 RE: Drive problems dmikulec Oct-11-01 36 RE: Drive problems railnut Sep-27-01 8 RE: Drive problems NickF Oct-04-01 23 RE: Drive problems Euston Oct-04-01 26 RE: Drive problems lnghairedwizard Sep-27-01 7 RE: Drive problems docam Sep-28-01 9 RE: Drive problems Simerjoe Sep-28-01 10 RE: Drive problems trainjog Oct-01-01 16 RE: Drive problems angus987 Oct-03-01 22 RE: Drive problems compwizard Sep-28-01 11 RE: Drive problems SR1950 Sep-30-01 12 RE: Drive problems deadhead Sep-30-01 14 RE: Drive problems jvizoso Oct-01-01 15 RE: Drive problems jk71062 Oct-01-01 17 RE: Drive problems doubleslipless Oct-02-01 18 RE: Drive problems Simerjoe Oct-03-01 19 RE: Drive problems HAC Oct-03-01 21 RE: Drive problems brownstone Oct-04-01 24 RE: Drive problems rdamon Oct-04-01 25 RE: Drive problems Dokkensound Oct-04-01 27 RE: Drive problems Dagman Oct-13-01 38 RE: Drive problems rocky Oct-05-01 28 Proper Care of Floppy Diskettes Boweavel Oct-06-01 29 RE: Proper Care of Floppy Diskettes... Euston Oct-07-01 30 RE: Proper Care of Floppy Diskettes... Gazza Oct-08-01 33 RE: Drive problems nwallace Oct-07-01 31 RE: Drive problems michigandon Oct-08-01 32 RE: Drive problems brownstone Oct-09-01 34 RE: Drive problems doubleslipless Oct-11-01 37 RE: Drive problems ace6879 Oct-13-01 39 RE: Drive problems doubleslipless Oct-13-01 40 RE: Drive problems fredfindling Oct-19-01 41 RE: Drive problems PeterVonFrosta2 Oct-19-01 42 RE: Drive problems RedOctoberXP Oct-19-01 43

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dmikulec (66 posts)
Sep-27-01, 10:02 AM (EST) 1. "RE: Drive problems" Minimum requirments dictate that you at least have a C64 with a 5.25" disk drive. The CD will fit nicely into the floppy opening!Hope this helps.Sorry, couldn't resist.
Have a good day all!David Mikulec
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Boweavel (952 posts)
Sep-27-01, 11:00 AM (EST) 2. "RE: Drive problems" Will there be a patch for us amstrad users ? Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
dmikulec (66 posts)
Sep-27-01, 11:03 AM (EST) 3. "RE: Drive problems" The Amstrad port will be out after the Timex Sinclair T1000 version.David Mikulec Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
stationmaster (180 posts)
Sep-27-01, 01:40 PM (EST) 4. "RE: Drive problems" My crude estimate is that the paper-tape version is going to be over 22,000 miles long. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
dmikulec (66 posts)
Sep-27-01, 01:46 PM (EST) 5. "RE: Drive problems" I was thinking more along the lines of IBM punch cards!David Mikulec Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Boweavel (952 posts)
Sep-27-01, 01:55 PM (EST) 6. "RE: Drive problems" Roflol.... good funny post this one... Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Jak_Fearon (163 posts)
Sep-30-01, 05:17 PM (EST) 13. "RE: Drive problems" My chisel is just about worn down to the nub, but I've only got three more stone tablets to inscribe before I'm done with the main executable. Still trying to figure out how to code the MakeACE tool in less than 120 tablets though. Wish me luck!Jak Fearon
how in the world?
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HAC (268 posts)
Oct-03-01, 01:42 PM (EST) 20. "RE: Drive problems" well.. I could take Makeace, and then cut it to paper tape.. but at 400 bytes per meter of 8 channel tape.. that's almost 400 meters of tape... (and yes, I still have some paper tape from my early days in IT..)
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eblong (2 posts)
Oct-11-01, 05:38 PM (EST) 35. "RE: Drive problems" I prefer IBM Cards myself. All I need to do is take apart the Christmas Wreaths and use the confetti in the bags in the basement to fill in all those annoying holes sothey can be reused. Anyone got a keypunch machine out there we can use to speed up the converstion? Bruce Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
dmikulec (66 posts)
Oct-11-01, 05:44 PM (EST) 36. "RE: Drive problems" I believe there's one over at the Smithsonian. David Mikulec
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railnut (73 posts)
Sep-27-01, 07:53 PM (EST) 8. "RE: Drive problems" C64? Damn it! I guess my Atari 400 it out of the question then! Will it load on a Timex Sinclair???? Maybe an Adam???? PLEEEZ!!!! Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
NickF (369 posts)
Oct-04-01, 00:41 AM (EST) 23. "RE: Drive problems" As I recall from my C-64 days it was actually faster to type the code in through the keyboard than to load it from the floppy. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Euston (453 posts)
Oct-04-01, 02:11 PM (EST) 26. "RE: Drive problems" I tried to install in on my Psion (thats a rather large forerunner to the palmtop) but it wouldn't install onto my HD.I have cleared it all out - got a whole Mb spare - any smart ideas?I have 1Mb RAM.Oh, and no soundcard.http://clix.to/trainsim Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
lnghairedwizard (65 posts)
Sep-27-01, 07:30 PM (EST) 7. "RE: Drive problems" Well THAT SURE IS STRANGE as Ive had no problems loading it into my TRS-80 2 butI wonder if anyone could help me figure out why I get so few colors displayed????? maybe I have the resolution set to high?.........LOL Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
docam (10 posts)
Sep-28-01, 09:16 AM (EST) 9. "RE: Drive problems" My recent computer (a powerfull Sinclair ZX-81 with 16 kb RAM and external cassette reader) don't accept MSTS CDs (sure, it's a Microsoft copy protection scheme !).The CDs don't fit inside (external) cassette reader... What can I do to solve this problem ? Really I'm very dissapointed The best way is to look for a good PC emulator software, and CD-ROM reader interface, developped for this fantastic computer. Dominique (not serious French guy).
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Simerjoe (76 posts)
Sep-28-01, 07:55 PM (EST) 10. "RE: Drive problems" You guys are all nuts. Vic 20, C64, TRS80, etc.
Where is the nearest funny farm?
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trainjog (31 posts)
Oct-01-01, 04:37 PM (EST) 16. "RE: Drive problems" This IS the Funny Farm Btw. I still have a 5 1/2" FDD full Hight 40 tracks, I figure the CD will fit nicely inside.
Sorry, but my interface card is gone, so no program loading here ... Chris
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angus987 (60 posts)
Oct-03-01, 07:39 PM (EST) 22. "RE: Drive problems"
Runs perfectly on my Commodore 16, had the afore mentioned problem with the casssete compatability, but I was able to use the cartridge socket without any problems......except to fit the cd in that socket, I found a small rockhammer, some vaseline and a crazy redhead were required! Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
compwizard (6 posts)
Sep-28-01, 10:38 PM (EST) 11. "RE: Drive problems" I Love It. With all that is going on right now. It is nice to have a good laugh.
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SR1950 (34 posts)
Sep-30-01, 04:37 PM (EST) 12. "RE: Drive problems" LAST EDITED ON Sep-30-01 AT 04:41 PM (EST)O the Nostalgia!!I must dig out my old C64! Wonder how long it'll take my 300 baud modem to download the new Marias 3.0?How about a frame rate of 1 FPD? (frame per day)By then hopefully MS will have brought out "MSTS III - The Resurrection"?Thanks for the chuckles, folks! Lew
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deadhead (48 posts)
Sep-30-01, 06:08 PM (EST) 14. "RE: Drive problems" I still have a cassette drive from a TI-80 and I decided to look at the box it came in and Wahla!!! a RS232 interface cable and it still looks new! Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
jvizoso (66 posts)
Oct-01-01, 03:14 PM (EST) 15. "RE: Drive problems" Exactamundo..... I just looked in the cupboard and I have 2 Sinclair Microdrives .. and the rainbow stripe on em sure looks pretty ! Those things used to whir away all by themselves! jv Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
jk71062 (23 posts)
Oct-01-01, 08:50 PM (EST) 17. "RE: Drive problems" Heres how its done, Since Ive lost all my hair and my wife is ready to leave because of time spent with the editors, I finally realized its easier to build a real railroad. I threw the pc away and started hauling home ties and rail sections in the back of my pickup when I can find them laying around at landscaping stores and scrapyards. My neighbor was really pissed when I layed my first 100' of mainline across his backyard. Figured I would use his pool for a water source when i luck into finding a steam engine at the scrapyard. I work construction and my concrete contractor is getting suspicious over the gravel he has been coming up short, But I need ballast and lots of it. Next summer I plan on getting rid of the gas grill and patio and installing a blast furnace for making my own spikes, rails etc.
Hell its easier than textures. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
doubleslipless (26 posts)
Oct-02-01, 11:49 PM (EST) 18. "RE: Drive problems" LAST EDITED ON Oct-02-01 AT 11:58 PM (EST)After hot-footing it home on my fork-lift truck from my local computer store, from where I eagerly purchased MiSTakeS the IBM punch card edition. I shoveled coal on the burner, raised steam, opened the valve on my 286-1AX and went away for the week-end while it loaded 'Pen and Paper' up (the OS).
Lo and behold, on my return I found I had been burgled!!!! The six billion IBM punch cards for MiSTakeS were missing, nowhere to be found only two shiney tea coasters in their place
So if anybody happens to trip over them (you can't miss them, they're yay big and this wide and that high) they're mine. If possible please could you post them (either all at once or one at a time - I like to receive mail) to The Men in White, 88 Padded Cells, Madman-on-the-Hill. Cheers P.S. what is a 5 1/2" drive?? only got a punch reader I just can't keep up with these leaps and bounds in technology, you'll be telling me vericles no longer have solid steel wheels Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Simerjoe (76 posts)
Oct-03-01, 01:34 AM (EST) 19. "RE: Drive problems" I still have the monitor left over from my C64 which I left on the sidewalk on a trash pickup day. Anyone interested. I'll give it away for, oh let me see...........$6000. C'mon now! It's an antique.You guys crack me up.
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HAC (268 posts)
Oct-03-01, 02:01 PM (EST) 21. "RE: Drive problems" So I guess that the old IBM 1401 I used to run is out? (it was a mainframe, 4096 bytes of 6-bit core RAM...) cheers
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brownstone (22 posts)
Oct-04-01, 00:49 AM (EST) 24. "RE: Drive problems" Am I the only one with a set of FOUR super fast, 16 bit TI-994a ? I think that I can out pace all of you!! (just as soon as I my cartiage adapter, I will rule the world!!!!)
Stone !!p.s. Yes, I still have 4 of them. I don't know why, but I do. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
rdamon (31 posts)
Oct-04-01, 09:44 AM (EST) 25. "RE: Drive problems" I wonder how many people have no idea what we are talking about!!!!Zylog Forever!!!Gotta go my acoustic coupler is falling off my desk Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Dokkensound (175 posts)
Oct-04-01, 03:41 PM (EST) 27. "RE: Drive problems" Hey, If you'll accept a collect call I'll be happy to download it to you over my 200 baud modem. Shouldn't take more than a year. Thanks for this thread. Made me giggle looking at the size of my current MSTS folder and thinking about my first Elephant Memory systems 5 meg hard disk and wondering "How the heck would I ever run out of storage now?"
R. Easterday (DokkenSound)
"But these go to "11""
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Dagman (1 posts)
Oct-13-01, 01:53 AM (EST) 38. "RE: Drive problems" Four TIs!!! That beats my two. But isn't the speech module fun?
I love hearing the conductor hollar "All Aboard!" Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
rocky (1 posts)
Oct-05-01, 03:07 AM (EST) 28. "RE: Drive problems" 5 1/2" refers to the thickness of the disc not the diameter.
As I recall the width was about 36" and it fitted a IBM 1311 drive. Weight was in the 30lb range and in strong sunlight you could see the bits Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Boweavel (952 posts)
Oct-06-01, 03:47 PM (EST) 29. "Proper Care of Floppy Diskettes " Follow all of these instructions carefully for error-free floppies!! 1; Never leave diskettes in the disk drive, as data can leak out of the disk and corrode the inner mechanics of the drive.Diskettes should be rolled up and stored in pencil holders. 2; Diskettes should be cleaned and waxed once a week. Microscopic metal particles can be removed by waving a powerful magnet over the surface of the disk. Any stubborn metallic shavings can be removed with scouring powder and soap. When waxing the diskettes, make sure the surface is even. This will allow the diskette to spin faster, resulting in better access time. 3; Do not fold diskettes unless they do not fit into the drive. "Big" diskettes may be folded and used in "little" disk drives. 4; Never insert a diskette into the drive upside down. The data can fall off the surface of the disk and jam the intricate mechanics of the drive. 5; Diskettes cannot be backed up by running them through the xerox machine. If your data is going to need to be backed up, simply insert two diskettes into the drive. Whenever you update a document, the data will be written on both diskettes. 6; Diskettes should not be inserted or removed from the drive while the red light is flashing. Doing so could result in smeared or possibly unreadable text. Occasionally the red light remains flashing in what is known as a "hung" or "hooked" state. If your system is "hooking" you will probably need to insert a few coins before being allowed access to the slot. 7; If your diskette is full and you need more storage space, remove the disk from the drive and shake vigorously for 2 minutes. This will pack the data enough (Data Compression) to allow for more storage. Be sure to cover all the openings with scotch tape to prevent loss data. 8; Access time can be greatly improved by cutting more holes in the diskette jacket. This will provide more simultaneous access points to the disk. 9; Diskettes may be used as coasters for beverage glasses, provided that they are properly waxed beforehand. Be sure to wipe the diskettes dry before using. (see item 2 above) 10; Never use scissors and glue to manually edit documents. The data is stored much too small for the naked eye, and you may end up with data from some other document stuck in the middle of your document. Razor blades and scotch tape may be used, however, provided the user is equipped with an electron microscope. 11; Periodically spray diskettes with insecticide to prevent system bugs from spreading. All this and more on http://www.looniebin-of-jokes.comEnjoy... Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Euston (453 posts)
Oct-07-01, 04:29 AM (EST) 30. "RE: Proper Care of Floppy Diskettes " Damn, thats what I have doing wrong.(reaches for insecticide)http://clix.to/trainsim Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Gazza (15 posts)
Oct-08-01, 07:56 AM (EST) 33. "RE: Proper Care of Floppy Diskettes " Oh, I suppose washing them under a tap is out of the question? (a friend DID actually try this once) Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
nwallace (43 posts)
Oct-07-01, 07:48 AM (EST) 31. "RE: Drive problems" Man, If you think youve got a problem what a bout me I jsut can't get it to load onto my Sinclair ZX80 Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
michigandon (188 posts)
Oct-08-01, 00:40 AM (EST) 32. "RE: Drive problems" MY Commodore PET crashed whilst trying to instasll MSTS yesterday. can anyone give me any pointers on how to get it running again?Don Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
brownstone (22 posts)
Oct-09-01, 02:42 AM (EST) 34. "RE: Drive problems" If I recall, they are limited in the use of RAM. I would sugjest to anyone with limited RAM (Random Access Memory) to incress your ROM (Read Only Memory), and re-name it often. Also remove and reconect the cables running to the ROM drive often, so as to Randomize it's Access. Also, some computers lacking power can easily be up-graded by adding power to the outlet. A good electric dry outless will double the power in, and of course the power used. As for floppy care, I take them out of the plastic case right away, that way I can stack more in the drive bay at once. Stone. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
doubleslipless (26 posts)
Oct-11-01, 08:36 PM (EST) 37. "RE: Drive problems" I have just been given a Dell 386 (no graphics card, no sound card) with Windows 3.1 (on 69 million floppies) and Um dunno what memory it's got, but I think it maybe an imp with a notepad. Does this rank as the fastest CPU viable to run MSTS on, or is it running too fast???? Later I found 3 slots in the back that are plated over (why make perfectly good holes and then cover them over again?), however, if I remove one of these plates the CD's for MSTS will fit nicely, will this enable the 'Send Error' to contact M$ by directly jumping out the back and running to them? as the modem is like this ----> (__(_)------------------(__(_) (remeber these from your younger days???) Tho I am concerned by the fact that DirectX does not support my non-graphics and sound cards, could this cause the slow frame rate of 1fps (frames per seventy-year) and choppy sound??? Ya just gotta luv this post
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ace6879 (121 posts)
Oct-13-01, 03:51 AM (EST) 39. "RE: Drive problems" Want an even bigger laugh, First, I STILL HAVE my VIC-20 I bought as a teenager in high school!!! I payed 250 for it, and back then, in less than a year, the C64 came out!!!! The Vic dropped to 50 bucks!!! ;-( Second, I thought thee first post was SERIOUS!!! At first I am like, "you gotta be kidding!!!" He was!!! My "first" home computer 2 years ago had a 2Ghz Hard drive, and I never thought I would run out!!! Now I have two 15 gigs and I am out of space on the main,and w/n 1 gig on the other!!! (sigh!!!)Just thought you all would get a kick out of it!!Cheers!!
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doubleslipless (26 posts)
Oct-13-01, 08:11 PM (EST) 40. "RE: Drive problems" 2Gb H/D??? my 386 only has 10Mb and it has never ran out of space!!!! mind you I think thtas due t the fact that nothing comes on floppies anymore Well I'm off to dig out my old console | . |<blip> Hmmmmm I wonder if I can get MSTS to run on that, it's connected to a 28" TV so no problem with colour Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
fredfindling (7 posts)
Oct-19-01, 05:55 AM (EST) 41. "RE: Drive problems" I encountered the same problem, how do I load MSTS on my
ELF 1802?? There doesn't seem to be any kind of "slot" where
the CD will fit. How will MSTS display on the ELF?? All it has
is 8 7-segment LED's, can you actually see a train on it??
I have 2K of memory which was BIG in 1978 when I bought the
ELF, do I need to upgrade to 4 or 8K of memory to get good
peformance from MSTS. Do the MSTS control functions work
satisfactorily with a Hex keypad? I don't have a mouse or
trackball because there are no "ports" to connect one and
the operating system, COSMAC V1.3 doesn't seem to support
such input devices. But I have some success in programming
it, it played a crude rendition of "Yankee Doodle" after
several hours of entering hex data with the keypad. Once I
got it play "Yankee Doodle," I had hopes that the ELF might
be capable of running MSTS once I figure out how to connect
a "slot" to it that a CD could be inserted into. ELF will be
offering a kit in the future that will allow me to connect
an ASCII terminal to the ELF, it will cost $200 plus the
cost of the terminal. Maybe this what I'll need to run MSTS
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PeterVonFrosta2 (14 posts)
Oct-19-01, 10:49 AM (EST) 42. "RE: Drive problems" I checked the resources in my personal museum of old computers...
I had no success at all...
Neither the old 1991 DIGITAL VAX nor the Olivetti LSX5020 would
run MSTS properly... might be beacause the old serial terminals
belonging to the systems have a quite limited capability of
graphic display.
Has anyone thought about reverse engineering MSTS and porting
it to the TI 83 and TI 86 graphic calculators? MSTS on these
would be a great way to kill time in university lectures.PvF
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RedOctoberXP (2 posts)
Oct-19-01, 11:11 AM (EST) 43. "RE: Drive problems" #####... when is the release date for MS TRAINSIM on the gameboy??? Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

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