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Member since Nov-6-04 · 42 posts

OK. Here are some of the photos I used to make the class A and the Y class locomotives. The Y class is #2171, and the A class is #1218. Someone mentioned something about the "boiler tube pilot" on the A class or something, and to be honest I really don't even know what exactly you mean, but the "pilot" is the thing on the front, right (please don't make fun )? Here is one of the photos I used while making the 1218, and also a photo of my model, and maybe you can see if it looks correct. The problem with the Y class is this: I used photos from several different Y class locomotives, not knowing at the time that there were so many different variations of the Y class. Because of this, there are some things from all the different ones included in the model. I guess what I'm saying is, that I don't really even know what locomotive it is that I have. I took that white thing off the front of the boiler, and I'm pretty sure it looks mainly like the 2171 now (I only have a small color photo). Again, see if it looks right. On to the M class now. If I took that cowling (or whatever it is) off the top of the boiler, would the boiler just be the same size as the regular class M? If so, I could just add the stack and all the stuff on the regular M class, and remove the "cowling" (?) off the top, and there you would have a normal M class. Suggestions???? Thanks for the advice and for listening

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Member since Jul-23-03 · 703 posts

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Yes, it's called a pilot. Not "cow-catcher!" Whenever I hear someone say that I want to strangle them! Do you know how a boiler works? Or locomotive boiler is built? If you DON'T, then let me explain what we mean by boiler tube.All boilers have tubes. From the beginning of the steam era to about the early 1900's all steam locomotives were built to operate on/with "saturated" steam boilers. Meaning they only had tubes. In a super heated steam boiler, you also have larger tubes, along with the regular tubes, called Flues. These housed the super heater unit's which formed a network of piping that all ended up in the same super heater unit, usually inside the smokebox. Sometimes outside somewhere, depending on the road. I really didn't need to go over some of that part what with the super heating and all. I got carried away. Anyway, the boiler tube pilots are made from...old boiler tubes which the railroad has removed from boilers. Rather than simply throw them away, the railroads used them to make pilots, among other things.If you ever follow like the rebuilding of a locomotive and you hear the tube or flue time has run out...that means they are going to replace all of the tubes in the boiler.Kevin Bush

I will have my hand on the throttle of a K-36 very soon!

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Member since Aug-13-03 · 164 posts

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I only have a couple of minets take a look at these photos.As too the boiler tube pilot, I belive their is a "bolier tube pilot kit" in the file library!Some photos from a October photo charter at Strasburg. These are not mine.

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Member since Jul-23-03 · 703 posts

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MMMMmm. Those guy's work wonders over there. Those cars are beautiful. And I would be willing to be almost half the parts on the N&W 475 are new. Yes, even the side rods. Just take a peak at their shop on their website. You'll see what I mean. That would be a good place to work and I am considering it. Work in the shop probably. That would be great to gain experience in that nice of a shop. Kevin Bush

I will have my hand on the throttle of a K-36 very soon!

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I'm no N&W expert, by any means, but I do know of some resources you'll find invaluable. The first is the paperback "USRA 2-8-8-2 Series," number 3A in NJ International's Classic Power series. This is a profusely illustrated book that deals primarily with the Y-3 through Y-6 classes and subclasses, with some coverage of earlier 2-8-8-2s and 2-6-6-2s owned by the railroad. There is an HO scale foldout drawing of the Y-3, as well as other illustrations which are illustrate how the firebox was enlarged for later classes.In July and August of 1984 (IIRC), Mainline Modeler did a two part article on the A class, covering all the variations in appliances and other details over the various builds. The scale drawings are exquisite. MM also did the J class (streamlined and otherwise) the following year, as well as the five-car Powhattan Arrow set.These should end any guesswork for the purpose of building accurate models for MSTS. In addition, the Index of Magazines at trains.com is a superb resource if your trying to research these things in any detail. It's a tiny link at the top of the home page. Registration is free. -Phil

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Hey Blackhawk from what I can see they look pretty good your MSTS pics are a little dark but from what I can see your doing really well. Happy Rails Patrick

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