Delaware & Hudson

I came across these in an old Railroad Magazine (November 1936) and thought I post them...I've see pictures of the high pressure "Horatio Allen" bit never this trio...Frank MusickMoving America into the 19th Century!

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RE: Delaware & Hudson, ATSF107, Jul-20-04, 11:28 PM, (1) RE: Delaware & Hudson, Jonatan, Jul-21-04, 04:07 PM, (2) RE: Delaware & Hudson, tryagin, Jul-21-04, 05:03 PM, (3) RE: Delaware & Hudson, CumbresEngineer, Jul-21-04, 05:51 PM, (4) RE: Delaware & Hudson, ATSF104, Jul-21-04, 06:17 PM, (5) RE: Delaware & Hudson, KeltikSylk, Jul-23-04, 08:53 AM, (6) RE: Delaware & Hudson, tryagin, Jul-23-04, 12:22 PM, (7) RE: Delaware & Hudson, KeltikSylk, Jul-23-04, 03:47 PM, (8) RE: Delaware & Hudson, Gixxer86g, Jul-23-04, 05:31 PM, (9) RE: Delaware & Hudson, Gixxer86g, Jul-23-04, 05:32 PM, (10) RE: Delaware & Hudson, tryagin, Jul-23-04, 07:25 PM, (11) RE: Delaware & Hudson, KeltikSylk, Jul-23-04, 09:09 PM, (12)

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The definition of "fugly" IMHO is pictured above!

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HEY!I think they look neat./JonatanSteam rules!

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There's no accounting for taste. It's performance that counts. How did these locos do in day-to-day railroading? The D&H had some very "individualistic" designs, eh? Tim

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The third one appears to be like a poppet valve type design. The South Africans converted alot of their 4-6-2's to poppet valve design and loved them. I think those locomotives look terrible!Kevin Bush,

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Strange.-MattATSF GP60M #104 works on the local in Flagstaff, AZ.

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Supposedly, D&H had some of the most powerful locomotive designs ever built for their size. All these strange looking critters were compounds (there was also a triple expansion) with boiler pressures exceeding 300 psi (500 in some cases)...Unfortunately they were also unreliable maintenance nightmares.None of them, however, holds a candle to the "Horatio Allen" as far as fugliness goes...I also found a site devoted to these "glamorous creatures"...the "Allen" figures prominently.
http://www.dself.dsl.pipex.com/MUSEUM/LOCOLOCO/USAhp/USAhp.htmThe D&H had some pretty "interesting" motve power. Some steamers were almost pretty and had a distinctly British look to them, with low domes and hidden piping...
http://www.bridge-line.org/blhs/dhsteamphotos.html
That first loco, #7, looks almost European, but ugly. They also had some of the most unattractive camel backs ever built.D&H had some pretty strange ideas about power in general. I also found this page...
http://www.bridge-line.org/blhs/tall_tale_no2.html
about using an ME-262 jet engine to boost trains over Ararat summit.I sure hope it is a "tall tale", otherwise these guys were certifiable.Frank MusickMoving America into the 19th Century!

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ME-262 engines mounted on a wooden caboose??? OMG!!! What were these guys thinking? ROTFLMAO!!! At any rate, what a novel idea. heh heh, and are you going to build one of these Messerschmitt Crummies, Frank? Tim

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Only if I can mount the whole Messerschmidt...We could have a series...classic jet fighter boosted cabeese.On second thought, maybe it's not a good idea. I can here it now. "You should be banned from the forum...Everyone knows the Gotha 209 had 6 more rivets on the left drag rudder!"Maybe a rocket assisted streamlined ferry would go over better. We could use the NASA logo!No, that would be met with "NASA never used their snake logo on rocket assisted streamlined ferries, they always used the old globe logo!"Besides, it would get ridiculous after a while...All those four wheel bobbers mounted with space shuttles..."D&H removed the cupola before mounting the shuttle on the first two units, it was only the third caboose that retained the crow's nest...but only until April 12th, 1972, when the shuttle wings were torn off in a grade crossing accident".Sigh...Can't win. Guess I'd better avoid the Delaware & Hudson altogether and stay out of trouble.By the way, I just found out they owned some electric lines...We could mount your pantographs on the NALW Sharks and...Frank MusickMoving America into the 19th Century!

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The D&H was an incredible railroad.And a great tragedy.I worked for the NYSW signal dept during the time she was operating the D&H.I also took a nice trip from Glens Falls,NY to Grand Central on the Turbotrain during the same time period.Lots of NYSW equipment on the D&H,and lots of D&H on the NYSW.Walt Rich was in his glory then,with the old NYSW(southern div.),NYSW northern div,Staten Island RR,Rahway Valley,the LASB and operating the D&H.

"Hold tight,feel the drivers bite,hear the whistle moan.Engine rockin' to the left and right,vibratin' in my bones.Once the locomotive steals your soul,you got a Casey Jones!"---Ian"Lemmy"Kilmister

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I wanna know how they scammed these 262's.

"Hold tight,feel the drivers bite,hear the whistle moan.Engine rockin' to the left and right,vibratin' in my bones.Once the locomotive steals your soul,you got a Casey Jones!"---Ian"Lemmy"Kilmister

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>> I wanna know how they scammed these 262's.<<yah, I want to know!That's got to be a good story in itself! Those were top-secret spoils of war. And what became of the airframes when they removed the engines? Tim

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All the stuff would have been taken to Wright Patterson, which was the "foreign" technology research center at the time (Though I believe it was then called Wright Field).Of course, that's where it would have been in the first place...Which still begs the question, how would the D&H have gotten a hold of it.Maybe they have the Roswell and Kecksburg "vehicles" too A UFO boosted caboose?Frank MusickMoving America into the 19th Century!

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