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chuckscCharter Member · 4896 posts

LAST EDITED ON Jun-14-04 AT 08:54 PM (EDT)

From the Desk of NALW's Master Legacy Builder John Fowlis and assembled in NALW's (Virtual)Eddystone Plant...
Complete with custom Cabview, Accurate (as far as MSTS allows) Physics and The Unique sounds of Baldwins Turbocharged 8 Cylinder De La Vergne Diesel producing 1600hp!Now coming to a File Library near you very very soon...
Available for all your Virtual RR's bulk mineral service...The Baldwin RF16 Sharks in PRR and D&H livery.....Here they are testing on the Lehigh Valley.....The CabviewDanger! Danger! Shark Attack! :-) – image 1Some D&H Helpers Idling between assignmentsDanger! Danger! Shark Attack! :-) – image 2The official Builders Portrait of the PRR unitsDanger! Danger! Shark Attack! :-) – image 3Here they are testing, PRR units draggingDanger! Danger! Shark Attack! :-) – image 4And 100 cars back a pair of D&H units shoving...Danger! Danger! Shark Attack! :-) – image 5
Chuck Schneider
Chief Cook, Bottle Washer and (Virtual) CEODanger! Danger! Shark Attack! :-) – image 6

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NewEnglandRailFanMember since Jun-18-04 · 491 posts

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WOW Me likes!-Dave-Dave

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Rodman 93Member since Aug-13-02 · 29 posts

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NALW..........you guys are are nothing short of being GODS

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mjs2101Charter Member · 507 posts

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Excellent looking Sharks! A fine addition to the steamlined engine fleet!Mykel

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Vulcan FoundryMember since Oct-8-02 · 686 posts

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I love those. Great job John, Chuck and everybody at NALW for an outstanding collection of models. Really looking forward to adding these babys to the roster when their done.

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gfbeatMember since Sep-9-02 · 174 posts

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Absolutely AWESOME! Can't wait for them! ------------------------------
Jan

German ALCO/MLW-Fan
Jan's MSTS Addons

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JonatanCharter Member · 2042 posts

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w00t! Actually one of my diesel favs! =D Yummy!/JonatanSteam rules!
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Train gifs from Dans Railroad Gif RoundhouseNever trust computers. If you do, they will betray you.I'm the steam freak, ph34r me!!

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TVRRMANCharter Member · 420 posts

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Guys,I am speechless... Great work, and I look forward to running these beauties. Please guys, keep up the excellent work on these Transition era locos, as they are definitely worth the downloading time. I can forsee quite a few PRR Fan's dropping them in front of freights and even at the head end of a coal drag. Could I ask a question related to the PRR Unit: I can see that you've got the Late 50's Single stripe scheme on them, but do you guys have any intentions on an early 50's (as delivered) 5 Stripe scheme? Just wondering out of curiousity. Please, keep up the excellent work there at NALW... Thomas Pearce,
Freight Car Builder, Broadway Limited Locomotive Works

Come see our new website:
http://www.bllw.100freemb.com

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chuckscCharter Member · 4896 posts

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LAST EDITED ON Jun-15-04 AT 09:34 AM (EDT)

Thomas,Probably not as we are up to our collective a$$e$ in alligators trying to get our backlog out.However we are open, once they are uploaded, to license requests from the talented Reskinning community on here....Chuck Schneider
Chief Cook, Bottle Washer and (Virtual) CEODanger! Danger! Shark Attack! :-) – image 18

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CGW409Charter Member · 1886 posts

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Chuck
Kudos to you and the rest of the gang at NALW!
(Hmmm,now where did I put those EJ&E Shark pics at?)Gary S


42 year old future curmudgen(Hey you kids get offa my lawn!!)

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chuckscCharter Member · 4896 posts

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Gary I think you guys are gonna love them....
you've got to hear the offbeat rattling throb of their turboed 8 cyl diseasel (remember GM and alco were using 12 cyls to get the same power) and these hunker down and lug just like the 12" to the foot scale ones do... Bob Boudoin and I are especially proud of the physics from the schedule 24 brakes to the non-linear throttle...Chuck Schneider
Chief Cook, Bottle Washer and (Virtual) CEODanger! Danger! Shark Attack! :-) – image 19

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BLW_1946Member since Sep-9-02 · 681 posts

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What's not to love about a Baldwin??? great job, NALW!thanks!Tim Baldwin
Buffalo NYMilepost 5 on the Buffalo Belt Line
CSX - NS - CP - CN

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GMOF3ACharter Member · 1761 posts

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They do look good Chuck. The D&Hs came out really good.Paul Fowler

www.mstsgmo.com

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GaryH2Charter Member · 523 posts

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ChuckI'll have to request that you NOT release these anytime soon, you see, this weekend is my new bride's birthday and we're househunting and that sort of thing. If you release these in the near future, I know my effectiveness in accomplishing all these tasks will be greatly reduced since I'll be distracted by the fine work of NALW! In all seriousness, they look great and I look forward to running them when time allows!
I've been looking forward to more Baldwins for quite some time now! GH

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Stooopid_personCharter Member · 3852 posts

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I like the "Please keep feet off wall"!
Does it really say that in real life?

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Or probably, maybe you should waste your time reading it.
Eh, where did my signature go?
Oh, here it is, the one you are reading right now? Can't you see it? I know I know, it's probably too bright to see it.
Hey, look at my avatar, nice right? I drew it with my own hands holding the mouse in Paint, with the pencil tool(and the Filling tool!)!
It's a picture of me in Planet Stooopid, where everything is the same as what you call "Earth" except that we are called "aliens" in your planet.
Anyway, I warned you not waste time reading my signature! You have just wasted probably about 30 seconds reading it, where you could have spent the time doing better things, like maybe reading the next post below if there is one...

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CARexMember since Jul-5-03 · 162 posts

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LOL, I was wondering the same thing.

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chuckscCharter Member · 4896 posts

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Yes it did!
Or at least the Cab Photo Graeme used as a model for the cab did...
Maybe if he sees this he will post the photo or a link...Chuck Schneider
Chief Cook, Bottle Washer and (Virtual) CEODanger! Danger! Shark Attack! :-) – image 23

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Cell0518Charter Member · 936 posts

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Chuck, I can't wait. I've always liked those "sharks."Chris

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tooltrollMember since Jun-19-04 · 37 posts

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Two words:
Dr ool
My #1 all time fave. Oddly enough, I was just scratching my head a week ago or so, after searching the FL, thinking "Nobody's done a shark, yet? Wtf?"Aha! I knew I was hallucamanatin'! Can't wait to see it!BobPS: Chuck, please read the post I inadvertently stuck in the anchor to the Repainting forum. It's in the nature of a request for repaint license. tnx.Bob

-God was my co-pilot, but we crashed in the mountains, and I had to eat him.

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Nhtrain2Charter Member · 811 posts

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Next plot for Jaws 4?, Looks liek another masterpiece!-Alexander NHtrainDanger! Danger! Shark Attack! :-) – image 29 Danger! Danger! Shark Attack! :-) – image 30

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m10bobMember since Aug-9-03 · 90 posts

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WHEN???It looks great,(like a Baldwin shark should)!

Up and down the MONON

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Thirdrail70Charter Member · 322 posts

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Nice Chuck:Your group has given us a lot of fine equipment and this is a very nice addition. I especially like the D&H color scheme.Frederick Dreany
Island Electric, East

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OharaMember since Aug-9-03 · 169 posts

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Hey Chuck, do you know the Exact date of when the 'sharks' are released

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chuckscCharter Member · 4896 posts

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What's it to ya kid? Chuck Schneider
Chief Cook, Bottle Washer and (Virtual) CEODanger! Danger! Shark Attack! :-) – image 32

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imprezzedCharter Member · 454 posts

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>What's it to ya kid?
>
>Chuck Schneider
>Chief Cook, Bottle Washer and (Virtual) CEO
>Danger! Danger! Shark Attack! :-) – image 34
lol

Mile 0.0 CN Bedford Sub
Location:
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063 30.3 W
Reminiscing VIA LRC's in their Glory Days.

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OharaMember since Aug-9-03 · 169 posts

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I was just wandering when it would be available, so far, NALW is at the top of my list of trains, I've gotten NALW's NC F59phi. And now the shark noses have got my eye! Keep up the good work NALW!

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lateagainMember since Jul-7-04 · 57 posts

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Any chance of some weathered skins?A quick check of "Fallen Flags" shows that these rather wierd looking streamliners got used for some pretty grubby work.Seems weird that they bothered with streamlining and used them to haul coal?!GeoffWest London
U.K.

Geoff
West London
U.K.

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chuckscCharter Member · 4896 posts

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>Any chance of some weathered skins?
>
>A quick check of "Fallen Flags" shows that these rather
>wierd looking streamliners got used for some pretty grubby
>work.
>
>Seems weird that they bothered with streamlining and used
>them to haul coal?!
>
>Geoff
>
>West London
>U.K. IIRC the carbody was designed by Raymond Loewy the noted industrial designer who among other things did the GG1 motors and the T-1 Steamer... Chuck Schneider
Chief Cook, Bottle Washer and (Virtual) CEODanger! Danger! Shark Attack! :-) – image 35

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TVRRMANCharter Member · 420 posts

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Chuck,According to an article published about the 1949 edition of the Broadway Limited, he also designed the interior that went into the Broadway. But another not quite ever operated locomotive that was displayed by the Pennsy at the 1939 World's Fair, the S-1 Duplex. The S-1 though, unlike the T-1, was operated only once in revenue service. It was found to be unusable thanks in part to excessive axle loading, weight, and operating clearances. But Chuck, could you please drop me a PM? I have a question about the Baldwins...
Thomas Pearce,
Freight Car Builder, Broadway Limited Locomotive Works

Come see our new website:
http://www.bllw.100freemb.com

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plainsmanCharter Member · 3232 posts

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Hi Geoff,
It was not that the Sharks were designed as coal haulers, but they did have Westinghouse generators and traction motors. These were the most potent traction motors available at the time, able to take more current than those found on some other makes. This made them capable coal haulers as well as enabled them to handle general freight needs when equiped with 68:15(65mph) gearing, and able to handle local passenger service with 62:17(80mph) gearing. I think very few got the faster gears.
BobGreat Plains shopDanger! Danger! Shark Attack! :-) – image 36

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henry3Charter Member · 1662 posts

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Also, streamlining was not necessariy applied to or derived from function in the era when these locos were designed.I've seen some pretty swift-looking streamlined *toasters* that weren't employed in high-speed service as well. Henry

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KeltikSylkCharter Member · 1012 posts

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They are purty!So now you're gonna stretch the Pennsy Unit into a BP-20, right?Don't forget NYC and Monagahela paint schemes!Frank MusickMoving America into the 19th Century!
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chuckscCharter Member · 4896 posts

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>They are purty!
>
>So now you're gonna stretch the Pennsy Unit into a BP-20,
>right?
>You'll have to ask John as he is the Managing director of the Legacy Division >Don't forget NYC and Monagahela paint schemes!
>Actually we are going to be fairly liberal with reskin requests once we release the package as John would like to "Share the Wealth" with the reskin community....Chuck Schneider
Chief Cook, Bottle Washer and (Virtual) CEODanger! Danger! Shark Attack! :-) – image 38

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sswCharter Member · 2540 posts

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Monagahela?Bradley Linda
Waco, Texas


TKW Paint Shop

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chuckscCharter Member · 4896 posts

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Once its released and if you want to do it...
Write to us!Chuck Schneider
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KeltikSylkCharter Member · 1012 posts

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Monagahela...
Danger! Danger! Shark Attack! :-) – image 41Unfortunately, I can't tell you what the colors were...Almost forgot the B&O units too...
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Moving America into the 19th Century!
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GaryH2Charter Member · 523 posts

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Monongahela colors were pretty much black and white in all the photos I've seen. It looks like they took the NYC locos, peeled off (or painted over) "New York Central" and put "Monongahela" in its place. The B&O units are quite striking!GH

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sswCharter Member · 2540 posts

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Thanks Frank.Never heard of that one before!I'll have to do some research on that line.. Bradley Linda
Waco, Texas


TKW Paint Shop

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johnfCharter Member · 553 posts

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LAST EDITED ON Jul-10-04 AT 00:01 AM (EST)

THe skinny on the shark.1) at present I don't plan to do the DR6-4-1000/2sc
2) I did clean skins to allow the repainters an easier effort.Baldwin introduced the Shark Nose body style on the DR4-1500 because it was felt the Baby Face carbody was not projecting an agressive modern look, to me in fact they look like Droopy the Dog of cartoon fame. Baby faces that is.The railroads that owned and ran sharks included NYC, PRR, B&O and EJ&E as buyers from Baldwin. Monongahela & D&H bought theirs second hand. Monongahela bought 7 ex NYC A units and 2 B's and D&H bout the last two running A's from Monongahela 1205 & 1216 which are the only surviving sharks kept in storage in Michagan, somewhere.

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KeltikSylkCharter Member · 1012 posts

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Funny you should mention "babyface"
Danger! Danger! Shark Attack! :-) – image 46Not a shameless plug, just displaying for comparison...Frank MusickMoving America into the 19th Century!
Danger! Danger! Shark Attack! :-) – image 47
www.kelticsylk.com

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imprezzedCharter Member · 454 posts

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>
>The railroads that owned and ran sharks included NYC, PRR,
>B&O and EJ&E as buyers from Baldwin. Monongahela & D&H
>bought theirs second hand. Monongahela bought 7 ex NYC A
>units and 2 B's and D&H bout the last two running A's from
>Monongahela 1205 & 1216 which are the only surviving sharks
>kept in storage in Michagan, somewhere.
AFAIK, I think CP ran them too...

Mile 0.0 CN Bedford Sub
Location:
44 29.6 N
063 30.3 W
Reminiscing VIA LRC's in their Glory Days.

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arcarmaxxMember since Jul-26-04 · 1 posts

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I' m wondering about that:> Now coming to a File Library near you very very soon...
> Available for all your Virtual RR's bulk mineral service...> The Baldwin RF16 Sharks in PRR and D&H livery.....How soon it' s 'very very soon'? Dieter

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