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bradhigMember since Jun-18-04 · 712 postsApr 13, 2004 2:25 AM

when I bring up the trainsim lod manager and select a filname for the s file I get gmax caused an error and will now close everytime I try to export my newest version of the martian machine. what's causing the error?

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KeltikSylkCharter Member · 1292 postsApr 13, 2004 2:50 AM

RE: can't export gmax crashes

Same problem here...Hope you get an answer, otherwise I'll being using TSM a while longer.Moving America into the 19th Century!
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awaken77Member since May-6-03 · 320 postsApr 13, 2004 11:43 AM

RE: can't export gmax crashes

This happens after deleting some parts in LOD manager.
This recommended by Okrasa Ghia and helped me:
Delete polygons, not the objects

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WoozleyCharter Member · 94 postsApr 13, 2004 8:59 AM

RE: can't export gmax crashes

> what's causing the error? Don't know but the LODs seem to get corrupted, especially after any scene modifications, from time to time.But I can suggest a solution that works for me in the same situation. Open the model and the LOD tool. In the LOD tool click 'operations/remove LOD data from MAX scene'. Exit the LOD tool and save the scene. You will of course lose/have to redo the LOD data, but this is the only work around I have found.Now open the LOD tool and redo the LOD data & export the s file.Again remove the LOD data before exiting the LOD tool.Removing the LOD data each time after an export / saving without the LOD data almost always solves this problem.Let me know if this works for you.

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HackCharter Member · 3938 postsApr 13, 2004 3:49 PM

RE: can't export gmax crashes

>Removing the LOD data each time after an export / saving
>without the LOD data almost always solves this problem. And will almost always cause a crash, as there's a bug in the close routine (the 'X' icon) of the LOD Manager.The easiest method is to follow your guide up to, and before, adding to the LOD Manager. Save the file, then add the new LOD and export. When complete, simply close Gmax without saving. Since the file was saved previously without LOD info, all should be well. Cheers!
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KeltikSylkCharter Member · 1292 postsApr 13, 2004 7:15 PM

RE: can't export gmax crashes

Oh...Now you tell us Frank
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bradhigMember since Jun-18-04 · 712 postsApr 14, 2004 2:06 AM

RE: can't export gmax crashes

I fixed it by attaching the parts of the heat ray together.

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WoozleyCharter Member · 94 postsApr 14, 2004 8:53 AM

RE: can't export gmax crashes

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>And will almost always cause a crash
>
Hmmmm... never seen this (a crash) even once ? I'll take your word for it.

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HackCharter Member · 3938 postsApr 14, 2004 10:24 AM

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>Hmmmm... never seen this (a crash) even once ? I'll take
>your word for it. I actually haven't seen this for a long time - I try not to make a habit out of making too many mistakes more than once. Cheers!
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WoozleyCharter Member · 94 postsApr 15, 2004 4:03 AM

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>I try not to make a habit out of making too many mistakes more than once. Good boy !

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bradhigMember since Jun-18-04 · 712 postsApr 21, 2004 3:09 AM

RE: can't export gmax crashes

I was working on the supertrain interior and resized everything at once. Now gmax crashes when I try to export to s. I removed the lod data and saved without but still it crashes.

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bradhigMember since Jun-18-04 · 712 postsApr 21, 2004 3:29 AM

RE: can't export gmax crashes

This lod manager is perposely trying to P#@*$@$ and you know what its working. I tried attaching all the objects and still it crashes when I try to export. Just great supertrain passenger view is ruined.

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BrinchCharter Member · 153 postsApr 21, 2004 3:58 AM

RE: can't export gmax crashes

Try making a new empty project and import the "mesh/parts" from your project, eventually one by one, that might work. You might get it to work this way.Peter

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bradhigMember since Jun-18-04 · 712 postsApr 21, 2004 4:09 AM

RE: can't export gmax crashes

I don't know how to copy parts from one project to another.

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BrinchCharter Member · 153 postsApr 21, 2004 4:22 AM

RE: can't export gmax crashes

In the files menu choose "merge..", select the the file you would like to import from, then choose the part(s) in the next window. Thats about it.Peter

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bradhigMember since Jun-18-04 · 712 postsApr 21, 2004 4:46 AM

RE: can't export gmax crashes

I just tried that it didn't work. Gonna have to restart from scratch.

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BrinchCharter Member · 153 postsApr 21, 2004 5:05 AM

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The merge or the export ?

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asamtrak911Member since Aug-23-02 · 203 postsApr 21, 2004 5:57 AM

RE: can't export gmax crashes

I think this problem might lie in "resized everything at once." There are some issues with using the scale tools on an entire object (or entire scene for that matter) so you should only use scaling when you're in point or polygon editing mode. I was once working on a project and decided that the whole thing was a bit too short, so I scaled it to be longer and couldn't figure out why it failed to export. I tried the same thing with starting a new scene and merging my model into it, with no success, and here's why:The problem is that Gmax retains the scale ratio that you apply, so it saved my main object with a 102% scale. Anything other than 100% will cause an exporting error. What you can do to get rid of this is to select all the objects and then go to the hierarchy tab and click "reset scale/transform". That should take care of that problem, but you'll probably still have to remove all the LOD data and redo it to make sure it's updated.Alex Stroshane Can't export gmax crashes – image 5
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al_cffMember since Dec-5-04 · 10 postsDec 10, 2004 10:11 PM

RE: can't export gmax crashes

I have the same problem,but when I click on reset scale/transform nothing happens (when all obects selected).Is there an another way to "unscale", or should I delete my project and create an aonther ?Al_cff
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HackCharter Member · 3938 postsApr 21, 2004 4:03 PM

RE: can't export gmax crashes

As Alex mentioned, you can scale at the polygon/vertice level, but not at the object level - the latter will certainly cause the problems you describe.Cheers!
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bradhigMember since Jun-18-04 · 712 postsApr 21, 2004 10:36 PM

RE: can't export gmax crashes

too late I'm rebuilding the passenger view.

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