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Are there any RS-12's for MSTS

Started by tonypeard September 21, 2003 30 posts 11 min read

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tonypeardMember since Aug-29-03 · 6 postsSep 21, 2003 11:51 PM

Just curious to know if there are any Baldwin RS-12's available for MSTS? I have looked around here and on the internet and haven't found any so far. I was wondering if anyone knew of any. Here is an older picture of a California Western RS-12.Thanks for your help!Tony

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RE: Are there any RS-12's for MSTS, Thunderbolt3985, Sep-21-03, 08:25 PM, (1) RE: Are there any RS-12's for MSTS, GaryH2, Sep-21-03, 08:53 PM, (2) RE: Are there any RS-12's for MSTS, pwillard, Sep-21-03, 10:31 PM, (3) RE: Are there any RS-12's for MSTS, tonypeard, Sep-22-03, 02:34 AM, (4) RE: Are there any RS-12's for MSTS, pwillard, Sep-22-03, 08:37 AM, (5) RE: Are there any RS-12's for MSTS, CStevens, Sep-22-03, 02:26 PM, (6) RE: Are there any RS-12's for MSTS, GaryH2, Sep-22-03, 10:42 PM, (7) RE: Are there any RS-12's for MSTS, Magick_maker, Sep-25-03, 08:21 PM, (8) RE: Are there any RS-12's for MSTS, Thunderbolt3985, Sep-25-03, 09:06 PM, (9) RE: Are there any RS-12's for MSTS, CGW409, Sep-25-03, 09:30 PM, (10) RE: Are there any RS-12's for MSTS, Magick_maker, Sep-25-03, 09:32 PM, (11) RE: Are there any RS-12's for MSTS, pwillard, Sep-26-03, 07:36 AM, (12) RE: Are there any RS-12's for MSTS, CGW409, Sep-26-03, 06:32 PM, (13) RE: Are there any RS-12's for MSTS, Magick_maker, Sep-26-03, 07:52 PM, (14) RE: Are there any RS-12's for MSTS, Magick_maker, Sep-26-03, 08:00 PM, (15) RE: Are there any RS-12's for MSTS, CGW409, Sep-27-03, 11:51 AM, (16) RE: Are there any RS-12's for MSTS, imprezzed, Sep-28-03, 00:56 AM, (17) RE: Are there any RS-12's for MSTS, CGW409, Sep-28-03, 01:26 PM, (18) RE: Are there any RS-12's for MSTS, Magick_maker, Sep-28-03, 07:33 PM, (19) RE: Are there any RS-12's for MSTS, Magick_maker, Sep-28-03, 07:34 PM, (20) RE: Are there any RS-12's for MSTS, pwillard, Sep-28-03, 09:52 PM, (21) RE: Are there any RS-12's for MSTS, Thunderbolt3985, Sep-28-03, 10:26 PM, (22) RE: Are there any RS-12's for MSTS, gfbeat, Sep-29-03, 03:28 AM, (23) RE: Are there any RS-12's for MSTS, pwillard, Sep-29-03, 09:51 AM, (24) RE: Are there any RS-12's for MSTS, lnghairedwizard, Sep-29-03, 12:28 PM, (25) RE: Are there any RS-12's for MSTS, pwillard, Sep-29-03, 01:43 PM, (26) RE: Are there any RS-12's for MSTS, Thunderbolt3985, Sep-29-03, 05:16 PM, (27) RE: Are there any RS-12's for MSTS, CGW409, Sep-29-03, 06:08 PM, (29) RE: Are there any RS-12's for MSTS, GaryH2, Sep-29-03, 05:35 PM, (28)

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Thunderbolt3985Member since Apr-10-03 · 305 postsSep 22, 2003 12:25 AM

RE: Are there any RS-12's for MSTS

Have you looked in the File Library? If you can't find it in the library, chances are it hasn't been made, beause it's the most conprehensive File Library dedicated to MSTS on the web. The link to the File Library is on the bottom of nearly every page on this web site.

Watch the gap.
You can't miss it. It's right next to the train.
MTA Going your way-the safe way

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GaryH2Charter Member · 378 postsSep 22, 2003 12:53 AM

RE: Are there any RS-12's for MSTS

LAST EDITED ON Sep-21-03 AT 08:54 PM (EDT)

Nope.There's a(n) DS4-4-1000(SC), AS16, DRS 4-4-1500 (I think), and an AS616 (I think).More (diesel) Baldwins would be very cool, especially a VO1000 and such.Rumour has it that Trainartisan has a Shark in the works, but that was over a year ago and it has not materialized, nor have any updates been posted.Others may have more info.GH

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pwillardCharter Member · 1099 postsSep 22, 2003 2:31 AM

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There is also a 4-axle AS16... if you don't mind me pluggin my own work...
Pete Willard Are there any RS-12's for MSTS – image 4
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tonypeardMember since Aug-29-03 · 6 postsSep 22, 2003 6:34 AM

RE: Are there any RS-12's for MSTS

Thank you for the replies.... and yes, I have checked the train-sim file library. Sometimes I see links here in the forums to smaller sites, or designer's sites offer some downloads... just checking to see if it was out there somewhere.Again - Thanks!Tony

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pwillardCharter Member · 1099 postsSep 22, 2003 12:37 PM

RE: Are there any RS-12's for MSTS

Ya know...I can add the RS-12 to my to-do list...

Pete Willard Are there any RS-12's for MSTS – image 6
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CStevensCharter Member · 146 postsSep 22, 2003 6:26 PM

RE: Are there any RS-12's for MSTS

Pete, Seaboard Air Line Please!

Carey
Seaboard Air Line
Tampa - Wildwood
88 miles of track work completed. Adding roads and scenery.

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GaryH2Charter Member · 378 postsSep 23, 2003 2:42 AM

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That would be so very excellent! Some "Very Olds" (VO660s and VO1000s) would be wonderful...not that I'm begging. Well, ok, I AM begging! Love your previous works there Pete! I run them all the time!Gary

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Magick_makerMember since Apr-15-03 · 1007 postsSep 26, 2003 12:21 AM

RE: Are there any RS-12's for MSTS

LAST EDITED ON Sep-25-03 AT 08:24 PM (EDT)

I don't mind doing a shark if someone would direct me to some blue prints.
Edit:Noticed 2 things about that engine.1.) Is that a skunk on it's side between the roadnames?2.) Look behind the hood. The engine has been modified. You can see where the short hood has been raised. Probably to accomodate something.And, it'd be interesting if someone made that war bonds billboard.

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Thunderbolt3985Member since Apr-10-03 · 305 postsSep 26, 2003 1:06 AM

RE: Are there any RS-12's for MSTS

To answer your first question, yes, it is a skunk between the roadnames. You can find out why in the link I provided.http://www.skunktrain.com/faq.htm

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You can't miss it. It's right next to the train.
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CGW409Charter Member · 1172 postsSep 26, 2003 1:30 AM

RE: Are there any RS-12's for MSTS

Magic
Not blue prints per se but some dimensional data that might give you a good starthttp://gelwood.railfan.net/manual/Scroll almost to the bottom or until you get to the R's you'll be looking for the rf16 filesGary S

"Some say this country's just out for a fight. After 9/11 man I'd have to say thats right"
"Have You Forgotten"
Darryl Worley

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Magick_makerMember since Apr-15-03 · 1007 postsSep 26, 2003 1:32 AM

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That's a start. Thankfully the nose is similar to something I started in the past. Gimme a few weeks.

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pwillardCharter Member · 1099 postsSep 26, 2003 11:36 AM

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I Agree, thanks for the pointer. You can never have too much reference material.
Man! How do you find these? I know I have Googled for stuff that was in that directory and I've Never found that stuff.
Good Job!Pete Willard

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CGW409Charter Member · 1172 postsSep 26, 2003 10:32 PM

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Pete
I was putzing around trying to find data on the Little Joe electrics and that site came up on a Dogpile search,you can bet your rear as soon as I started delving in I bookmarked that sucker.Magic
I've got to admit a bit of a selfish motive in providing help, I just think a Shark AB set would look real sweet in EJ&E livery. Gary S

"Some say this country's just out for a fight. After 9/11 man I'd have to say thats right"
"Have You Forgotten"
Darryl Worley

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Magick_makerMember since Apr-15-03 · 1007 postsSep 26, 2003 11:52 PM

RE: Are there any RS-12's for MSTS

I've started making test sketches, trying to figure out how I plan to map out and work the compound curves of the nose and the body itself. Also, I'm trying to decide before hand, what polys I can cut out prior to building.So far, I've decided to use the A unit's textures for the B unit's when it comes to roof, wheels, and trucks.

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Magick_makerMember since Apr-15-03 · 1007 postsSep 27, 2003 12:00 AM

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let me add this, I've dug up several picturs that show the front end, The best so far came from NE rails, and is a D&H pair. I'll use them for the nose detail since it didn't change between the 4 and 6 axle variants.

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CGW409Charter Member · 1172 postsSep 27, 2003 3:51 PM

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MagicI'll use them for the nose detail since it didn't change between the 4 and 6 axle variants.I'll take this to mean that "other" project was a BP20?Gary S

"Some say this country's just out for a fight. After 9/11 man I'd have to say thats right"
"Have You Forgotten"
Darryl Worley

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imprezzedCharter Member · 282 postsSep 28, 2003 4:56 AM

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This may seem like a bone question, but the Baldwin RS-12's have the first two letters of their...umm...designation...the same as an ALco RS-18. Any coincidences? Or, am I on glue again?

I wanna highball it through Woodstock, Ont. on none other than...THE TURBOTRAIN!!!

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CGW409Charter Member · 1172 postsSep 28, 2003 5:26 PM

RE: Are there any RS-12's for MSTS

Not really a dumb question.
Both used RS more than likely as a description of their intended duties Road SwitcherGary S

"Some say this country's just out for a fight. After 9/11 man I'd have to say thats right"
"Have You Forgotten"
Darryl Worley

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Magick_makerMember since Apr-15-03 · 1007 postsSep 28, 2003 11:33 PM

RE: Are there any RS-12's for MSTS

Nah, the other project I'm working on is an E-6 consolidation. Biggest of the class ever built and can pull as much as a challenger.

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Magick_makerMember since Apr-15-03 · 1007 postsSep 28, 2003 11:34 PM

RE: Are there any RS-12's for MSTS

oh, as to the one I started in the past, I'd bashed around the idea of making a five axle C liner, but never got past messing with the nose.

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pwillardCharter Member · 1099 postsSep 29, 2003 1:52 AM

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Progress Shot. Are there any RS-12's for MSTS – image 11 Pete Willard

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Thunderbolt3985Member since Apr-10-03 · 305 postsSep 29, 2003 2:26 AM

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WHOOPEEE!!! Another Alco!

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gfbeatMember since Sep-9-02 · 35 postsSep 29, 2003 7:28 AM

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LAST EDITED ON Sep-29-03 AT 03:29 AM (EDT)

Aaaahm... the RS-12 is a Baldwin and not an ALCO. And the model looks fine!JanGerman ALCO/MLW - Fan

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pwillardCharter Member · 1099 postsSep 29, 2003 1:51 PM

RE: Are there any RS-12's for MSTS

Yes, it is confusing that both Also and Baldwin used the RS prefix to describe their Road Switchers.Pete Willard

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lnghairedwizardCharter Member · 1664 postsSep 29, 2003 4:28 PM

RE: Are there any RS-12's for MSTS

Great looking RS12 there pete......did you do it in TSM or #d Canva?(Imbetting it was canvasbill

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pwillardCharter Member · 1099 postsSep 29, 2003 5:43 PM

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Ummm... 3D Canvas was used.
Pete Willard

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Thunderbolt3985Member since Apr-10-03 · 305 postsSep 29, 2003 9:16 PM

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Do'h, d'oh, d'oh, d'oh, D'OH, D'OH, D'OH, D'OH, D'OH, D'OH, D'OH, D'OH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Gotta realize there's more to it than Alco, GE and EMD...

Watch the gap.
You can't miss it. It's right next to the train.
MTA Going your way-the safe way

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CGW409Charter Member · 1172 postsSep 29, 2003 10:08 PM

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Pete
Looks real sweet,ever considered doing up one of the big centercab Baldies that the MN&S,SSW and others had?Gary S

"Some say this country's just out for a fight. After 9/11 man I'd have to say thats right"
"Have You Forgotten"
Darryl Worley

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GaryH2Charter Member · 378 postsSep 29, 2003 9:35 PM

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Excellent job Pete!I already have a home for it on my HD! Thank you 1,000,000!Gary

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