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I have now added the gear's axle back onto the atlantic. When I try to test it now, I get the send/don't send message. It doesn't state any particular error, but it just gives me the message. I'll try rebuilding the axle, and see if that helps.mrWM734
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I found the source of the problem. When I put the exporting setting to the first picture, I get the second picture as a conversion report. How come the textures aren't converted? TSM usually creates "blank.ace" for me because I don't have textures for it yet.mrWM734
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Uncheck the Compress textures box. TSM cannot do that properly, and causes the UID error in MSTS. This fault includes Blank.ace mervyn@madasafish.com

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Thanks, I'll try unchecking that.mrWM734
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I got a successfull conversion report, but I still get the send/don't send message when I try to test the engine.mrWM734
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Take the axle out and try again. If it works the problem may lay with the axle, or with the parenting of the axle, probably the second choice. I noticed that you have just about everything parented to the main part on the .dst you sent me. While the number of parts is not that great, it may work if you parent the new axle to something other than the main part.
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I'll do that on Sunday. I had trouble with that part before. I'll see how it works. In the meanwhile, I'll recreate the axle. I'll save the recreated part seperately so I can add it in. When I do add it back in, I'll parent it to the second main part instead of the first one.mrWM734
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I'll be posting some more progress on sunday. I will be rebuilding the axle then, and I will remove the original axle while I'm at it.mrWM734
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I'll post my progress with the engine later today.mrWM734
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I tried rebuilding the axle completely, and it didn't work. I still keep getting the send/don't send message. I parented it to the second main part, but it still didn't work. What should I do to fix this?mrWM734
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I got it to work. I re-installed MSTS, and the recreated axle rotated correctly.mrWM734
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Yippeee!!!.
Working in TSM can be a real pain sometimes, just like the other 3D modelling progs out there, but when it works, and goes into the sim without a hitch, it gives you a lovely warm feeling like, Hey, I just made that!!mervyn@madasafish.com

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I'll only be able to truly say that once I have it completely animated and skinned. mrWM734
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Fweeee! Gimme gimme gimme! I wanna try it!/JonatanSteam rules!

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Okay, I'll send you the updated .s and .sd files. Just don't fall off your chair.mrWM734
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Sent.mrWM734
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Got 'em, works fine. Fweeeee! ^_^/JonatanSteam rules!

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I'm glad it works fine.mrWM734
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Now that I have the axle back in, I can get back to the animating of the driverods, and the pistons.mrWM734
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I'm having some trouble knowing how to animate the driverods. On the Atlantic, the driverods move sideways as well as up and down. How can I animate this?mrWM734
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Which rods are we talking about here?, and which viewport in TSM. I thought that the driverods were those which linked the pistonrod and gearrod. If that is the case then where does the sideways movement come from, because if it has sideways movement then the other rods have it as well and I find that hard to visualise.If you are looking at the model from the side, the top of the gear-rod when animated should pass through the end of the unmoving driverod, with the bottom rotating alongside of the gear.When the drive rod is animated, one end is fixed, and the other end follows the top of the gearrod. If the two do not quite match then go back to the gear rod and redo that frame to get the two parts matching. Once you are happy with the linked motion of those two parts, add the piston rod up and down movement to match the driverod.mervyn@madasafish.com

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LAST EDITED ON Aug-20-03 AT 05:19 PM (EDT)

If you look at the picture, you'll understand what I mean. Besides the circular motion around the axle, I want the highlighted part to go up and down, and also from side to side. mrWM734
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Can I please have some help with this? I know some people have left the forums, but I am going to stay put for a while. I'm doing the best I can on my own, but there are some things I'm not so sure about. I really need help with this animating.mrWM734
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OK. The action you need on this part is the same as the rod that connects the piston to the connecting rod on a normal locomotive, but in the vertical plane instead of horizontal. If you look at the action on a normal steamer you will see what I mean. It is rather like the movement of a pendulum with the addition of some vertical movement.The top of the rod must not move in the direction of the horizontal arrow, it has to remain relative to the end of the horizontal rod and only move up and down.The bottom of the rod is the end which travels in both directions as it travels round with the gear.What you have to do is first of all set the motion, which in this case is almost vertical, and then set the rotation, for both the first and last frames in exactly the same position. This will give you a smooth transition as the sequence runs. Then you go back to frame 1 and set motion then rotation and so on through the sequence, remembering that the last frame is already done.Remember the two arrow buttons on the TSM taskbar. The straight one gives straight line movement, and the curved one gives rotational movement. What is needed is how to get the axis onto the top end of the rod, which will make the whole animation easier to do. I seem to remember seeing that somewhere, I'll have a search around for it.mervyn@madasafish.com

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Thanks, I'll try that now.mrWM734
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Right, I've located the method to shift the part axis from the centre to the top. Make sure that the part is not selected(green) and use Shift and the mouse to drag it into position. Once it is there the whole animation becomes very easy with the top end remaining in place when rotation is applied.If you get completely stuck, send me the latest .dst and I'll sort it for you. I have been playing around with the last one you sent over, although I havent done a full animation on it, just proving a few things for myself regarding animation in TSM.mervyn@burse.theboozer.co.uk

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That explains it. When I tried to move the part, and put it there for the animation, TSM put it somewhere else. I'll have to try using the shift key.mrWM734
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I tried using Shift + the mouse, but it didn't work. I'll send you the .dst file, so you can see what I've done with it. This way, you can work it around what I tried. The position for frame 1 should be x: 1.689, y: 4.25, and z: 3 if it worked correctly when I tried.mrWM734
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.dst file sentmrWM734
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Got the file. I'll check it out tomorrow. Reading one of your previous posts I see that when you tried to animate, TSM moved it way out of position. May have to remake the rods again.mervyn@madasafish.com

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Thanks, I'll try remaking them. They're just rods rotated about 10 degrees, so they shouldn't be that hard to remake.mrWM734
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I just remade the driverods, and they should work correctly now.mrWM734
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Hah! You've just remade them and I have just got the first one to do what I want it to do. Have you a copy of the gear axle, I would like to tie that into the complete animation of the gear rods so that the bottom of the rods match the rotation of the axle.
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Yes, I have a copy of the gear axle. I'll e-mail it to you.mrWM734
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Sent.mrWM734
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How is the progress with the animation coming along? When I tried animating it, TSM sent the part to some different coordinates. How were you able to get around that problem? mrWM734B&O Repaint/Locomotive Works Website down
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The first thing I have done is move the pivot point to the top of the rod to allow for the side/side movement like a pendulum. It seems that doing this has changed the part properties because it does not fly away, just stays in place. Having that extra part you sent is making it easy to get the parts in the right place for each frame.mervyn@madasafish.com

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That's the one thing I didn't try doing. It makes sense that changing the pivot point would change the properties. The "flying away" was quite a problem for me.edit: heh, my # of posts is 734 backwards.mrWM734B&O Repaint/Locomotive Works Website down
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How is the sim treating the animation? Have you been able to fix the problems?mrWM734B&O Repaint/Locomotive Works Website down
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The animation seems to be a bit wacky at present, but I have one or two wee tricks to try, one of which should solve it. Parented to the platform the rods dont move, parented to the gear axle, the animation disappears and they rotate complete about the axis of the axle. I remember having a similar problem with one of my current projects a while back, I'll have to think about what I did to get it working.mervyn@madasafish.com

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I hope it works for you.mrWM734B&O Repaint/Locomotive Works Website down
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How is it coming along?mrWM734B&O Repaint/Locomotive Works Website down
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Is the animation finally working in MSTS?mrWM734B&O Repaint/Locomotive Works Website down
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It is working, but not in the right place. I think it is something to do with the positioning of the various axis points and how they interact. I am going to do a dis-assemble/re-assemble and check the axis point of each part as I go.mervyn@madasafish.com

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I hope it's fixable. Good luck finding the source of the problems.mrWM734B&O Repaint/Locomotive Works Website down
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Any luck finding the source of the problems?mrWM734B&O Repaint/Locomotive Works Website down
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You have mail.mervyn@madasafish.com

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I'll animate both the piston rods and one side myself, and have you animate one side. That way, I can learn how to animate based off your work.mrWM734B&O Repaint/Locomotive Works Website down
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I got it, and I'll now work on the animation.mrWM734B&O Repaint/Locomotive Works Website down
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Sorry, I haven't gotten to work on the animation. I've been busy with a bunch of stuff.mrWM734B&O Repaint/Locomotive Works Website down
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I just got a chance to work on it, and I now have the part "Rod 5" animated properly.mrWM734B&O Repaint/Locomotive Works Website down
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I've now finnished the animation of the right side and the piston rods. Now, all I have to do for the animation is offset the animation. I just have to align it with the gear axle, and the Atlantic will be ready for skinning.mrWM734B&O Repaint/Locomotive Works Website down
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I'm hoping to have the animation done by the weekend. The editing of the animation is proving difficult to do.mrWM734B&O Repaint/Locomotive Works Website down
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I'm going to finnish up the animation this weekend. Then, it'll be ready for skinning!mrWM734B&O Repaint/Locomotive Works Website down
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Today, I'll have a chance to finnish up the animation of the atlantic. Get ready for the skinning process.mrWM734B&O Repaint/Locomotive Works Website down
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Sorry, I didn't get it done by today. I was busy yesterday. I'll work on it today.mrWM734B&O Repaint/Locomotive Works Website down
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No rush, no hurry. Take it easy and there are no mistakes.mervyn@madasafish.com

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Thanks. I'm trying to ballance my work on the Atlantic with 2 secret pojects I'm working on. I've been mainly working on the secret projects the last 2 days.mrWM734B&O Repaint/Locomotive Works Website down
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I'm going to have to work on it over next weekend. I was extremely busy.mrWM734B&O Repaint/Locomotive Works Website down
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I have the Atlantic properly animated! There's only one problem. The thing says all parts must have a part parent. I've checked all the parts, but they all have part parents. Mervyn, do you want to check out the new .dst file? mrWM734B&O Repaint/Locomotive Works Website down
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Send it over Mike and I'll take a peek.mervyn@madasafish.com

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Need any help with the painting of the engine? Good luck on it, mate!/JonatanSteam rules!

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Yes, I'll need help texturing. I'll need to get some templates of the parts. then, I can do the actual painting of it myself. If you want to help paint, I'll let you. I might need some pictures of the engine to use for textures.mrWM734B&O Repaint/Locomotive Works Website down
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'tis dun and back to you.mervyn@madasafish.com

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I got it, and I fixed the problems.mrWM734B&O Repaint/Locomotive Works Website down
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My last step before painting it will be adding on a bell. How should I shape the bell? I want it to have a stand that it can sit on, and have room to swing. I know in msts, the bell won't move, but I'd like to have one on the boiler.mrWM734B&O Repaint/Locomotive Works Website down
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How about this?
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that's exactly the type. There's a pic of the John Hancock at northeast.railfan.net. The engine is similar to the atlantic, except it has a wood cab. here's the link http://www.northeast.railfan.net/bo_steam1.html click on the picture that says "John Hancock"mrWM734B&O Repaint/Locomotive Works Website down
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How would I make that in TSM? Should I use a cone and half a sphere?mrWM734B&O Repaint/Locomotive Works Website down
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Just been looking at one made by someone else. He took a tube, 5 sections long, with 12 segments. From that he used the scale function to change the diameter of each ring of points to get the bell shape and size. Use the normal Move function to adjust the height position of each set. The hanger or bracket would then be made for it to hang from.mervyn@madasafish.com

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Thanks, I'll try that.mrWM734B&O Repaint/Locomotive Works Website down
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It's finally starting to look like a bell little by little. I've made the first curve, and I'm starting the second one now.mrWM734B&O Repaint/Locomotive Works Website down
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I have the second curve done, and I'm now going to start the bottom of it.mrWM734B&O Repaint/Locomotive Works Website down
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I didn't get a chance to work on the bell. I've been busy with other projects. I'll work on it some more tomorrow.mrWM734B&O Repaint/Locomotive Works Website down
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I finally got a chance to work on it today. I'll post my progress in a little bit.mrWM734B&O Repaint/Locomotive Works Website down
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I've adde on the bell to the Atlantic. Here are some shots of what it now looks like. I am now proud to announce that the Atlantic is ready for painting

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Can't you guys just use email?

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I do e-mail them. I just thought people might like to see how far it has come since I started the project back in april.mrWM734B&O Repaint/Locomotive Works Website down
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Please, send it to me, I have to test it! /JonatanSteam rules!

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OK. I'll send it to you. Keep in mind that the animation on the engineer's side is jumpy. Despite that, the Atlantic runs fine.mrWM734B&O Repaint/Locomotive Works Website down
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I just sent Mervyn the newest .dst file. It includes the bell and stand.mrWM734B&O Repaint/Locomotive Works Website down
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Mervyn, I just sent it to you again. This time, it's in a .zip file.mrWM734B&O Repaint/Locomotive Works Website down
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Jonatan, how does it run? Mervyn is going to try and smooth out the animation. This will help a lot.mrWM734B&O Repaint/Locomotive Works Website down
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It runs very well and when at full speed (30mph) the jerking is barely noticable.I'd love to do the painting of the engine. /JonatanSteam rules!

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Both you and I can split the painting. I just need to get some good pictures of the side, and we'll be ready. If I can't get pictures, I can just make up some myself by using a photo editor.mrWM734B&O Repaint/Locomotive Works Website down
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How do I assign different textures to different parts?mrWM734B&O Repaint/Locomotive Works Website down
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I am now working on a new cabview for the Atlantic with Mervyn. We'll have it so the animated parts can be seen.mrWM734B&O Repaint/Locomotive Works Website down
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How do I create texture templates for the different parts? I want to assign textures for the driverods.mrWM734B&O Repaint/Locomotive Works Website down
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Texturing! There are several ways to texture a model or the parts of a model. The larger parts will need to be properly mapped and if you go to the help menu in TSM and look through the exercises you will get the basics of how to make texture maps. It is probably almost as hard as building the model at first but like modelling, gets easier.The smaller parts can just have an appropriate color assigned to them from the texture template by using the part/texture option in TSM and navigating to the correct texture template. Once you have made the basic texture map you have to paint the parts on the map in the colors you want the model to be in. For the smaller parts you add smallish patches of the colors you want to use. This end product is what forms the basis of the ace file generated by the export function of TSM.Once you have had a look at the exercises in the help section, drop me an email and I'll help you all I can. Might be better than making this thread any longer at present.mervyn@madasafish.com

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Good point. I'll have to start a new post soon. I'll now send you an E-mail.mrWM734B&O Repaint/Locomotive Works Website down
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I'll now make a new post. This one has gotten quite long.mrWM734B&O Repaint/Locomotive Works Website down
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