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how do you change smoke color? -->Jason Underwood<--
12 yearold Virginia railfanSmoke color – image 1

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Member since Jul-17-02 · 27 posts

RE: smoke color

Hi Jason,you might be successful with playing with the SteamMaxSmokeUnitsReleaseRate( 0.2 )
and/or
ShovelCoalMass ( 0.5lb )values in the .eng-file.regardsVolker

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RE: smoke color

Sorry, I ment colors like red,green etc.
can you make a ge's smoke go from orange, to black like it's a flam'in GE?-->Jason Underwood<--
12 yearold Virginia railfanSmoke color – image 3

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RE: smoke color

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I think so.Change Dieselsmoke.ace in the golbal/textures folder.
Cheers!Smoke color – image 5 Smoke color – image 6
AdamB
In Texas we just pickup roadkill. Saves on refrigeration. YEE HAW!!! - Bentron

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Charter Member · 1074 posts

RE: smoke color

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Given the fact that most new diesels produce a "heat shimmer" rather than puffs of black smoke, I just got rid of most of the white in the dieselsmoke.ace alpha.
Smoke color – image 8
I suppose I'll have to decompress the .s file and assign some to this new image and keep others with the old image to really replicate actual locos, but that can come later.

---------Clayton---------Smoke color – image 9

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RE: smoke color

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LAST EDITED ON Jun-13-03 AT 08:00 PM (EDT)

OK, I fooled around with this idea some this evening and apparently dieselsmoke.ace has nothing to do with actual smoke color. The color of the image in that file is originally black while the alpha channel looks like little puffs of smoke:Smoke color – image 11We all know what that looks like in the sim. I altered it in several variations and here are my results:The first thing I did was to paint the image file yellow and then change the alpha channel to a solid black (without the puffs) in order to figure out what part of the image file is mapped to which puff (i.e. the ones in the air or the ones near the exhaust). Here's what TGATool2 looked like (minus the words in the boxes, of course):
Smoke color – image 12 And here's the result I got in the sim:Smoke color – image 13As you can see, that totally got rid of the smoke, which isn't what we wanted. So, I left the image file yellow, but changed the alpha to be completely white:
Smoke color – image 14and got this result in the sim:Smoke color – image 15Totally black! Also not what we want. A grey alpha channel gave me this in the sim:
Smoke color – image 16A light black, but no yellow. No alpha channel
Smoke color – image 17Gave me this:
Smoke color – image 18which is even darker than the one I did with a white alpha channel.Of course the alphas are in grey scale, so they are not related to smoke color, and my testing appears to show that the image file isn't related to smoke color at all, so the conclusion is that smoke color is related to something completely different than this ace file. Sorry! The good news is that you can use this ace file to brighten or darken the actually color of the black smoke, or lessen it's prominence (as I did in the pic showing 8131 in this thread) by adjusting the alpha channel. Hope this helps get things cleared up, even if it doesn't answer how to change the smoke color. EDIT: One thing I forgot to mention, I did try painting the original
dieselsmoke.ace yellow and leaving the alpha alone, but that did not do anything either. However, just for giggles I tried painting the image file for smokemain.ace completely yellow while leaving the alpha channel alone and got these results:
Smoke color – image 19YELLOW SMOKE (with a lot of interference from a mostly black alpha channel). I tried exporting this new image file and alpha channel to dieselsmoke.ace. Unfortunately, I didn't get yellow smoke, but I did get a sort of interesting result with the different alpha channel in there:
Smoke color – image 20So I guess this proves that somehow the steamers allow for smoke color changes while the diesels do not. Someone more knowledgeable than me will have to explain that one!

---------Clayton---------Smoke color – image 21

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RE: smoke color

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Is that a real line?

Shawn Kenselaar, shawnssk@yahoo.com
Screen Shot Forum Mod; Repainter for TKW & YLW
The NYO&W is Gone, But never forgotten!!!Smoke color – image 27

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RE: smoke color

It is in the steam model, I don't know if it will do anything in the other types??
Bob

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