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Started by altitude10200 March 26, 2003 15 posts 6 min read

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altitude10200Charter Member · 25 postsMar 26, 2003 7:38 PM

with the Jawn Henry getting ready to go to the paint shop, I am looking to the next project. I was wondering if anyone had scale drawings of the Pennsy S-1 Duplex. If anyone can give any help I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks

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Derby415Charter Member · 239 postsMar 26, 2003 7:52 PM

RE: PRR S-1

Dont mean to be stupid here, but what is the Jawn Henry?? And isn't the pennsy S-1 Duplex a turbine steamer??

Thanks,
Jim
PRR S-1 – image 1
President Of BLLW
email us at: BLLW@aemail4u.com

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FrostyMember since Jan-31-03 · 48 postsMar 26, 2003 8:31 PM

RE: PRR S-1

I think they mean this for the Jawn Henry.....
<http://www.train-sim.com/dcforum/DCForumID5/6182.html>And I believe this the S1 they are talking about.......
< PRR S-1 – image 2 >Jeremy Hopkin PRR S-1 – image 3

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TVRRMANCharter Member · 214 postsMar 26, 2003 8:44 PM

RE: PRR S-1

Hey Frosty,I believe it has already been modeled. Improvements on exisiting equipment is always welcome though.
If you are interestd, I do have a few ideas though: nobody has modeled Pennsy's 4-4-6-4 Q1 Duplexes, or even a correct N5 or N5c Cabin Car. Blueprints for all of th equipment is available at www.prrths.com. Just go into the national chapter, and look in the blueprints section.

Thomas Pearce,
PRR S-1 – image 4 PRR S-1 – image 5 PRR S-1 – image 6 PRR S-1 – image 9 PRR S-1 – image 10 PRR S-1 – image 11 PRR S-1 – image 12 PRR S-1 – image 13 PRR S-1 – image 14 PRR S-1 – image 16 PRR S-1 – image 17 PRR S-1 – image 18 PRR S-1 – image 19
Freight Car Builder, Broadway Limited Locomotive Works

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Overkill211Charter Member · 110 postsMar 27, 2003 4:07 AM

RE: PRR S-1

No, you're thinking of the T-1 - wheel arrangement 4-4-4-4.
The S-1 was a single-build prototype - wheel arrangement 6-4-4-6; and has not yet been done for MSTS.
It was too long for most of the PRR's existing turntables, but Raymond Loewy's streamlined body shell inspired lots of artists to immortalize the engine.

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sswCharter Member · 889 postsMar 27, 2003 1:59 PM

RE: PRR S-1

LAST EDITED ON Mar-27-03 AT 08:59 AM (EDT)

Nevermind, what I needed to say was said further down.

Bradley Linda
Waco, Texas

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HovertrainMember since Apr-10-03 · 447 postsApr 1, 2003 9:18 PM

RE: PRR S-1

A little background history on the S-1:
(ahem) The S-1 was one of the Pennsylvania's largest engines. As a matter of fact, it was so large, they couldn't use it on their turntables. This unsuccessful loco was eventually scrapped. I have wanted one of these since like December

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TVRRMANCharter Member · 214 postsMar 26, 2003 8:38 PM

RE: PRR S-1

Hey Jim,The Jawn Henry was one of Norfolk and Western Railway Company's Steam Turbine locomotives. Like The S2 turbine that Mike built, it used coal to build up steam to run several traction motors. Unfortunately for the Jawn Henry, it was extremely ineficient, and maintenance was costly. I think it was scrapped around 1957. Several phoos were published in model railroader magazine, but I cannot remember when. Does anybody else have any more info?

Thomas Pearce,
PRR S-1 – image 21 PRR S-1 – image 22 PRR S-1 – image 23 PRR S-1 – image 26 PRR S-1 – image 27 PRR S-1 – image 28 PRR S-1 – image 29 PRR S-1 – image 30 PRR S-1 – image 31 PRR S-1 – image 33 PRR S-1 – image 34 PRR S-1 – image 35 PRR S-1 – image 36
Freight Car Builder, Broadway Limited Locomotive Works

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chuckscCharter Member · 3181 postsApr 1, 2003 3:16 AM

RE: PRR S-1

Well actually Tom you are mostly correct in that the Jawn Henry was Turbine-Electric drive.... However the PRR Turbine(s) were direct drive.... The Turbine was directly geared to the drivers.Chuck Schneider
(Virtual) CEO
North American (Virtual) Locomotive Works PRR S-1 – image 37

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delamaizeCharter Member · 473 postsMar 26, 2003 11:19 PM

RE: PRR S-1

S-1 is a duplex streamlined loco, the steam turbine you're thinking of is the S-2, it was my first project.

PRR S-1 – image 51 PRR S-1 – image 52 PRR S-1 – image 62
Delamaize
"Long Live High Speed Rail In The USA"
PRR S-1 – image 65
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Derby415Charter Member · 239 postsMar 27, 2003 12:52 PM

RE: PRR S-1

Ok, I am straight now .

Thanks,
Jim
PRR S-1 – image 66
President Of BLLW
email us at: BLLW@aemail4u.com

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jay611Charter Member · 242 postsMar 27, 2003 9:25 PM

RE: PRR S-1

What happend to the 611 you were makeing???? -->Jason Underwood<--
12 yearold Virginia railfan

PRR S-1 – image 67

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MNWSCharter Member · 9 postsMar 30, 2003 7:17 PM

RE: PRR S-1

I can probably give you whatever information you need but I was wondering how it is going with the CB&Q Zephyr?
Please get back to me.
Thanks

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altitude10200Charter Member · 25 postsMar 31, 2003 4:06 AM

RE: PRR S-1

the Zephyr has its basic shape except for the rear car. The roof curvature is giving me problems. I have a couple of pics of what is done so far. I tried a version 2 that would have had a 3D interior with windows cut out of the model itself but sections keep dissapearing in the sim so I will tinker with that when I have time. Any help on the S1 would really be appereciated, especially scale drawings, and clear pics of the trucks.The N&W J needs to have a total overhaul, which will be done if I have time. It has way too many polys for the detail that it has, I have figured ways to add detail without using too many polys and I think it would be easier to just start over with it.

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altitude10200Charter Member · 25 postsApr 21, 2003 4:02 PM

RE: PRR S-1 Duplex

Well, I have found some photos that I have been working from, and I have a start on the boiler streamlining but the rest of it is going to take a while without drawings. Even the working drawings that give a rough outline and the dimensions of wheel bases would speed things up immensly.The Jawn Henry is just waiting for texturing, I have added a basic passenger view to the doghouse, it would be more interesting behind a big articulated steamer but it's still cool. If anyone has pics of the inside of the cab or dog house on the Jawn please let me know, I am thinking about trying my hand at a custom cab for it.

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