Dream in vision gone?

Hmm...Just went to check their website and it's no longer there. I guess the naysayers win on this one.-Jeff

Union Pacific is my drug.

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RE: Dream in vision gone??, BNSF4723, Feb-24-03, 06:42 PM, (1) RE: Dream in vision gone??, chucksc, Feb-24-03, 07:26 PM, (2) RE: Dream in vision gone??, Blaster, Feb-24-03, 08:58 PM, (5) RE: Dream in vision gone??, Hack, Feb-24-03, 09:04 PM, (6) RE: Dream in vision gone??, michaelnscale, Feb-24-03, 07:39 PM, (3) RE: Dream in vision gone??, zachattack, Feb-24-03, 08:07 PM, (4) RE: Dream in vision gone??, sd70mac666, Feb-24-03, 09:26 PM, (7) RE: Dream in vision gone??, heffed, Feb-24-03, 10:19 PM, (9) RE: OK, Sorry folks!!, heffed, Feb-24-03, 10:11 PM, (8) RE: OK, Sorry folks!!, sd70mac666, Feb-24-03, 11:09 PM, (10) RE: OK, Sorry folks!!, heffed, Feb-25-03, 00:49 AM, (11) RE: OK, Sorry folks!!, beltontigers, Feb-25-03, 10:27 AM, (12) RE: OK, Sorry folks!!, sd70mac666, Feb-25-03, 10:34 AM, (13) RE: OK, Sorry folks!!, yellowdog, Feb-25-03, 12:34 PM, (14) RE: OK, Sorry folks!!, beltontigers, Feb-25-03, 03:08 PM, (15) RE: OK, Sorry folks!!, sd70mac666, Feb-25-03, 04:19 PM, (16) RE: OK, Sorry folks!!, imprezzed, Feb-25-03, 05:04 PM, (17) RE: OK, Sorry folks!!, chucksc, Feb-25-03, 06:03 PM, (18) RE: OK, Sorry folks!!, beltontigers, Feb-25-03, 06:24 PM, (19) RE: OK, Sorry folks!!, imprezzed, Feb-26-03, 05:23 AM, (22) RE: OK, Sorry folks!!, chucksc, Feb-26-03, 09:48 AM, (23) RE: OK, Sorry folks!!, CGW409, Feb-25-03, 07:03 PM, (20) RE: OK, Sorry folks!!, chucksc, Feb-26-03, 09:52 AM, (24) RE: OK, Sorry folks!!, jfroth1, Feb-26-03, 07:33 PM, (30) RE: OK, Sorry folks!!, xgsft, Feb-26-03, 11:19 AM, (25) RE: OK, Sorry folks!!, heffed, Feb-25-03, 11:52 PM, (21) RE: OK, Sorry folks!!, beltontigers, Feb-26-03, 12:14 PM, (26) RE: OK, Sorry folks!!, troub, Feb-26-03, 02:25 PM, (27) RE: OK, Sorry folks!!, heffed, Feb-26-03, 03:25 PM, (28) RE: Dream in vision gone??, sd70mac6662, Feb-26-03, 07:20 PM, (29) RE: Dream in vision gone??, sd70mac6662, Feb-27-03, 08:25 AM, (31) RE: Dream in vision gone??, BNSF4723, Feb-28-03, 04:41 PM, (32)

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As you can see, they really are a pile of bullshit. They made up all these stories, gathered some followers and then took a hike when their story was up. Pathetic fools. They owe me a AC6000 btw, they said I would get a free copy. Stupid asses.*~þHÃt*Rat~**~classic american playa~*

September 11th, 2001: I stand united! Peace to those who perished... R.I.P

Life's a bitch, you take your chances, too many questions, and not enuff answers... Nappy Roots 2002

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Sharon have you heard anything about this???????Chuck Schneider
(Virtual) CEO
North American (Virtual) Locomotive Works

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I'll bet your momma's proud of that mouth....

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>they said I would get a free copy.With your attitude, highly doubtful. Besides, why would they owe you anything?Cheers!
Marc - 3DTrains
http://www.3dtrains.comPro Series SuperPacks

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Who is "Dream in Vision". Just curious as I've never ran across the name. Thanks! Michael

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I can get on to the site. Here's the link I have.
http://www.dream-in-vision.com/index.asp
Zach, future Trinity Railway engineer(I'm only eleven)

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sd70mac666
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Feb-24-03, 09:26 PM (EDT)

7. "RE: Dream in vision gone??"
In response to message #4

LAST EDITED ON Feb-24-03 AT 09:29 PM (EDT)

oh for Christ's sake not this bullshit again. I don't know how long this fuc*ing shi* has been going on for but we all know not to trust Stewartl or any of his creations. Yes the site works, but like Chuck says it can exist but unless you've posted it and he has at least used it it does not exist. We don't need to give the old man a heart attack. He knows I already don't like stewartl and his empty promises, maybe vigilante justice might work. They haven't changed much, the site is probably basement material. Check out the tread on this little gem buried somewhere in the Locomotive Design forum. Gives you a clear idea. Our resident Troll probably might pop his head from under the bridge to look at this one, so i salute the troll and Chuck. I bet Chuck and those guys at the Canadian locomo oops the NALW could do a better job:-P

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>oh for Christ's sake not this bullshit again. I don't know
>how long this fuc*ing shi* has been going on for but we all
>know not to trust Stewartl or any of his creations. Sorry SatanTrain, I was looking forward to their release.If they release it, great! Another nice train to run. If not, who really cares? No need to get your panties in a bunch.I only posted because I was checking to see if they had any updated info, and my link was dead. I just thought they had officially pulled the plug on the whole thing. Looks like they haven't, so I'll wait. -Jeff

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They've apparently changed their URL. This is the defunct link I had. http://www.dreaminvision.com/games/mts.asp-Jeff

Union Pacific is my drug.

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sd70mac666
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Feb-24-03, 11:09 PM (EDT)

10. "RE: OK, Sorry folks!!"
In response to message #8

LAST EDITED ON Feb-24-03 AT 11:12 PM (EDT)

this ought to be fun.
Go ask Chuck about DreamInVision. That has meen around for at least a year. they should've released something nownext stop Hell in A Handbasketare you sure waiting is the correct thing? Besides BHP might ditch their AC6000CW's in favor of SD70MAC'sChuck has got some reminder to ask in oh 13 days

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Yes, I know all about it.Thanks anyway.-Jeff

Union Pacific is my drug.

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"oh for Christ's sake not this bullshit again. I don't know how long this fuc*ing shi* has been going on for but we all know not to trust Stewartl or any of his creations."Hey Satanman...thanks for showing the world ur maturity level...i am now 100% certain that my 6 yr old cousin is more mature than you..and has a more educated vocabulary... -->Kyle Penn<--

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sd70mac666
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Feb-25-03, 10:34 AM (EDT)

13. "RE: OK, Sorry folks!!"
In response to message #12

LAST EDITED ON Feb-25-03 AT 10:42 AM (EDT)

I can swear if I want it's free speech. But this crap has been going on for a year and no product. Don't you think that after a year they would have something instead of nothing or at least a pre release beta? Go ask Chuck. Tell me if I'm not right. Personally I think people should be shot and pissed on if they lie (especially politicians) and in this case I agree with Phatrat (the classic American Playa) there, he's right. Boy from Hamilton knows what he's talking about. I used to live in Toronto in fact I was born and raised there) How long do yo uthink that's been up there for, I can remember that one going on last year and the cabs look way beyond the parameters of the average MSTS locomotive. TrainArtisan put out a better looking model, and I have that. If you gave the project to NALW I'm sure thaey acan make it look better (but then they would have to contend with the sins of stewartl). NALW does far better work (and not to rain on anybody else), no wait the whole forum of locomotive design and skinning can do way better work than that. And how long are you going to keep the community waiting? A year is not good because now you have disillusioned the public and now the public won't want it unless your name is Corel, Adobe or Microsoft.

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When will people stop touting the moronic notion that free speech is equal to anarchy?

Clayton

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there is a difference between free speech and complete indecency...using the "free speech" excuse sure as heck ain't gonna get u out of a fine here in the States...I believe it's called Disorderly Conduct..a Class C misdemeanor...and cussing like a sailor only proves ur ignorance...and if i'm not mistaken..all of us here practice free speech w/ out using every 4 and 5 letter word in the book..and i'm sure everyone else will agree w/ me
:Edit: Fixed spelling and added a sentence -->Kyle Penn<--

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sd70mac666
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Feb-25-03, 04:19 PM (EDT)

16. "RE: OK, Sorry folks!!"
In response to message #15

true but bookmark ttheir site and see if anything changes, I have it bookmarked fo rthe hell of it and the computer tells me nothing has changed. Maybe Stewartl got the investors in trouble

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"Cussing like a Sailor?" I resent that. Luckily this isn't a place where "train-sim.com police" rove around pissing people off. Or are you looking to become chief there?

I wanna highball it through Woodstock, Ont. on none other than...THE TURBOTRAIN!!!

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Hey watch what you say about Sailors...
LOL!
Some of us can actually get out a whole sentence without cussing!Chuck Schneider
(Virtual) CEO
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lol i really need to watch my choice of words...lol...but seriously...i'm plenty guilty of cussing too...but a cuss word every other word is kinda pitiful..imprezzed...i guess u r impressed w/ this guys limited vocabulary...and no..i'm not looking to be a "train-sim police chief) but there are what 11 yr olds on this site...these kids don't need to be exposed to locker room talk..if they weren't here...definately i would say..have at it -->Kyle Penn<--

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Hey Chuck, I am one, remember?... "i guess u r impressed w/ this guys limited vocabulary"...hypocrism at it's finest. J/K. Seriously though, you're right, although they get it at school from their buddies anyway...

I wanna highball it through Woodstock, Ont. on none other than...THE TURBOTRAIN!!!

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I know! I am just yanking your anchor chain!Chuck Schneider
(Virtual) CEO
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Chuck
Got a bud who's a former SEAL(actualy saw him on a recruiting poster so I know he ain't no poser)and he made cussing an art form if he smacked his thumb with a hammer,very creative.
But I tend to watch that on the site here because ladies & children may frequent this sight.

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Hey remember before I got appointed a Warrant Officer I was a Chief Petty Officer...
There are minimum requirements for that job as to the ability to verbally blister paint at 100 yards.... Chuck Schneider
(Virtual) CEO
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Hey Chuck,
I deal with CWOs every day and I can assure you they can slice the contractor's workforce off at it's knees...
I'm at least a foot shorter than I was when I was hired 21 years ago... but wiser!Watch 60 Minutes II tonight on CBS, SSGNs (!)...Best to you,
John Roth

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WOW!

Mike Suitts

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>true but bookmark ttheir site and see if anything changes, I
>have it bookmarked fo rthe hell of it and the computer tells
>me nothing has changed. Maybe Stewartl got the investors in
>trouble I bookmarked it. The link died, hence the post.I say get off it SatanTrain. So what if it's been a year? No need whatsoever to get so venomous. Like I said, if it comes out, great. If not, does it actually hurt you? No. So what's the big deal??-Jeff

Union Pacific is my drug.

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lol WOW...Verbally blister paint @ a 100 yards lol...Imprezzed..meant nothing by my words...i mean yea i'm sure these hooligans get the words from their buddies @ school..but i'm sure not gonna try to add to their vocabulary and have parents complainin to Nels... -->Kyle Penn<--

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>. . .and the cabs
>look way beyond the parameters of the average MSTS
>locomotive.The people who say this display only their own lack of knowledge. The cabs in MSTS are pre-rendered (often RAYTRACED) images! The look of the cab does not have the same restrictions as the look of the external model. The external model has to be rendered by the game engine, the cab is pre-rendered. I see absolutely nothing "unbelievable" about the cab in question. For the last time, a cab is only a bitmap (a collection of bitmaps including the controls, etc.), and can be anything.

troub
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>>. . .and the cabs
>>look way beyond the parameters of the average MSTS
>>locomotive.
>
>The people who say this display only their own lack of
>knowledge. The cabs in MSTS are pre-rendered (often
>RAYTRACED) images! The look of the cab does
>not have the same restrictions as the look of the external
>model. The external model has to be rendered by the game
>engine, the cab is pre-rendered. I see absolutely
>nothing "unbelievable" about the cab in question. For the
>last time, a cab is only a bitmap (a collection of bitmaps
>including the controls, etc.), and can be anything. I tried going down this route a while back Troub. I dabble in 3D graphics and said that there is nothing impossible about this cab.When confronted, they will tell you the actual problem is trying to get the controls to look right when animated due to the complex arc some of them must travel. That and the fact that when imported into MSTS, the image isn't a clean looking as the rendered image. Well, obviously.
-Jeff

Union Pacific is my drug.

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LAST EDITED ON Feb-26-03 AT 07:23 PM (EDT)

Yes the SatanTrain was not kicked off, Nels is looking into it and I apologized for swearing like a construction worker. Have to get caught up as I'm busy nowadays. Probably got away with it but since one of our members is only 11, I feel guilty for swearing in the first place. Guess I gotta suck it up. I updated a few things so you should be able to contact me on AOL now., if I'm on
hahahahahahhahahahahhahaha. I can use this as a backup account.
:-P

formerly known as sd70mac666 until the forum software decided to hate me

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so the thing forgot who I was

formerly known as sd70mac666 until the forum software decided to hate me

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Dream In Vision is still a pile of crap to me. And yes they did say they would release a copy to me before because I defended them in the start but now I couldn't care less about them. I can also swear all I want here as long as it has short forms, *'s, or ###'s. Too bad if your mommy doesn't want you to see it. Its just words, get over it.*~þHÃt*Rat~**~classic american playa~*

September 11th, 2001: I stand united! Peace to those who perished... R.I.P

Life's a bitch, you take your chances, too many questions, and not enuff answers... Nappy Roots 2002

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