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VRfanCharter Member · 490 posts

LAST EDITED ON Dec-08-02 AT 07:15 AM (EST)

Hi all,After taking a short break from locos, I'm now finishing off the S. Here is my latest progess. hopefully it will be ready within a week or two. As you can see, the first will be S300 "Matthew Flinders". BTW, I've also started playing around with a VP van. This will be next out of the workshops when the S is complete. --Victorian Railfan Web Site:
http://www.railpage.org.au/vr/Australian VR S class diesel electric – image 2Victorian B's for MSTS! Now available!

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FreightKingMember since Nov-8-02 · 20 posts

RE: Australian VR S class diesel electric

This is the one I've been waiting for !!!That's Sensational James, Top quality once again.A while ago I toyed with the idea of doing an S-Class, but then I found out other people were doing them so I changed my mind.I want to get into 3d modelling and now I have Gmax I'm trying to learn it (a steep learning curve indeed).Question: You obviously use scale drawings, Where do I get some from?Thanks in advance.I've been working on some GM's (resized e8's). Notice I only used mild spectecular lighting so it wouldn't hurt that gentleman's eyes. Here's a quick previewKeep up the good workCheersFreightking
(DownUnder)

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VRfanCharter Member · 490 posts

RE: Australian VR S class diesel electric

There is a Clyde drawing of the B class in the back of "The ML2 Story" by Peter Bermingham and there is a 42 class in "Early Diesel and Electric Locomotives of the NSWGR" by Mick Morahan. I also have my own personal photo collection as well as the great photographs in these books to use as reference.BTW, I also plan to change the model into the GM and 42 at some stage in the future. --Victorian Railfan Web Site:
http://www.railpage.org.au/vr/Australian VR S class diesel electric – image 8Victorian B's for MSTS! Now available!

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FreightKingMember since Nov-8-02 · 20 posts

RE: Australian VR S class diesel electric

Hi AdamI've already done 3 CL's that should be released shortly on steam4me.I made them to tow my Indian Pacific. They too are only resized and reskinned e8's, but it was the best I could do until now. The files were uploaded a while ago so they shouldn't be far away.Here's the promotional pic I recieved a few days ago.CheersFreightKing
(DownUnder)

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steam4meCharter Member · 193 posts

RE: Australian VR S class diesel electric

LAST EDITED ON Dec-12-02 AT 11:29 AM (EST)

Hi Ben>What about WCR Livery I'm currently working on both B61 in pass livery and B65 freight livery. An early "work-in-progress" shot.....Australian VR S class diesel electric – image 14RegardsYuri.
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k160Member since Aug-24-02 · 33 posts

RE: Australian VR S class diesel electric

As most are already aware, I have started re-skinning James' S-class diesel as WCR S302. The screenshot below shows the progress being made on the nose section. However I need help with the sides. If you have any photo's suitable for this please send them to my e-mail address listed below.
Regards
Matthew Davis
E-mail address: matthewd21@hotmail.com
P.S. I will contact James before releasing it.

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VRfanCharter Member · 490 posts

RE: Australian VR S class diesel electric

LAST EDITED ON Dec-12-02 AT 06:43 AM (EST)

Hi all,The 1960's S is finished and I'll probably make it available tomorrow. Tonight I converted the model into a 1980's VR S and V/Line S. Now I just have to adjust a few details on both models to finish them off. --Victorian Railfan Web Site:
http://www.railpage.org.au/vr/Australian VR S class diesel electric – image 17Victorian B's for MSTS! Now available!

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VRfanCharter Member · 490 posts

RE: Australian VR S class diesel electric

Hi Matthew,I don't plan to do those liveries at the moment. One problem with the Steamrail livery is that it would require the top of the nose to be re-mapped. I won't be doing this until I make the NSWGR 42 class.--Victorian Railfan Web Site:
http://www.railpage.org.au/vr/Australian VR S class diesel electric – image 21Victorian B's for MSTS! Now available!

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tecoaMember since Dec-12-02 · 2 posts

RE: Australian VR S class diesel electric

Hi James,Your Australian VR S class diesel electric locomotives are looking
great, I am looking forward to the day of release.I am very much looking forward to seeing more of your 3D artwork
James, so keep up the good work very much appreciated.Tecoa.

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VRfanCharter Member · 490 posts

RE: Australian VR S class diesel electric

Lol, that is one filthy B! Maybe you should take the specular lighting off a bit though. BTW, if you want to release that, just make sure you contact me via e-mail first. --Victorian Railfan Web Site:
http://www.railpage.org.au/vr/Australian VR S class diesel electric – image 24Victorian B's for MSTS! Now available!

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adambCharter Member · 265 posts

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I wasnt going to, ill fix it up, its a bit cheap! If i send it to you could you please do the alpha and turn the specular lighting down i dunno how to!
I was just messing around and it turned out ok!

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VRfanCharter Member · 490 posts

RE: Australian VR S class diesel electric

LAST EDITED ON Dec-13-02 AT 01:46 AM (EST)

Hi adam,If you like I can send you the .s file without the specular lighting, but it's fairly easy to change it using "Shape File Manager". http://www.highworth.freeuk.com/Follow the instructions and place the files into Train Simulator\utils\ffedit\. When you want to use the program, double click on the "sfm.hta" file in this directory.First off when you open the program it looks like this:Australian VR S class diesel electric – image 26You need to un-compress the .s file before you can do anything with it. The menus appear when you hold the mouse pointer over the "options" button.Australian VR S class diesel electric – image 27Then you need to click on "Texture Modes" once it's uncompressed:Australian VR S class diesel electric – image 28Here you move anything in the "Hi-Shine" column back to "Normal" and then click "OK" at the bottom.Australian VR S class diesel electric – image 29When you have done this, re-compress the .s file:Australian VR S class diesel electric – image 30BTW, always backup the .s file before you use SFM. It can stuff up the model if you don't use it correctly.
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As for the Alpha channel, simply use Tgatool2 to extract the .ace files.http://www.mnwright.btinternet.co.uk/train/tgatool2.htmThis is what the different areas of the program look like:Australian VR S class diesel electric – image 31If you want to send the main image to your editor click "Send main image to editor" under the "Image" menu:Australian VR S class diesel electric – image 32In your editor, save whatever you do to the file that TGAtool2 creates. When you are ready to get the image back into TGAtool2, click "Reload after edit" in the "Image" menu. TGAtool2 will load the image from the file that it created when you sent the image to the editor:Australian VR S class diesel electric – image 33Now, to convert the image into .ace format, click "Ace (Alpha)" under the "Export" menu. This will convert it into an ace image with the alpha channel that is displayed in the top right of TGAtool2. Australian VR S class diesel electric – image 34--Victorian Railfan Web Site:
http://www.railpage.org.au/vr/Australian VR S class diesel electric – image 35Victorian Bulldogs for MSTS! B and S classes now available!

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beadyboyCharter Member · 325 posts

RE: Australian VR S class diesel electric

Once again, those locomotives are fantastic, especially if they're built with TSM.I however never got SFM to work. I would click on Uncompress and simply nothing would happen. Is there some issue using it on Win XP?Australian VR S class diesel electric – image 36
Craig Scott
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cscott02@optushome.com.au

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VRfanCharter Member · 490 posts

RE: Australian VR S class diesel electric

LAST EDITED ON Dec-12-02 AT 10:33 PM (EST)

Hi all,The 1960's VR S is now available on my site. BTW, you will need to download Christine Sweetnam's cab without the NR mug from Yuri Sos' site before using the S.--Victorian Railfan Web Site:
http://www.railpage.org.au/vr/Australian VR S class diesel electric – image 37Victorian B's for MSTS! Now available!

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nadnerb1982Member since Sep-4-02 · 143 posts

RE: Australian VR S class diesel electric

Unless J.B is using TSM Pro, he cant sell any TSM loco he makes, thanks Abacus (rip off merchants). Australian VR S class diesel electric – image 40 Australian VR S class diesel electric – image 41

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VRfanCharter Member · 490 posts

RE: Australian VR S class diesel electric

I'm using normal TSM and you are correct that I can't legally sell them unless I purchase TSM pro. However, If I couldn't make enough money to cover the cost of TSM pro, then it really wouldn't be worth selling them. Anyway, this is only a hobby for me and I can't be bothered spending the time or money required to turn this into a business. I would rather be making more trains! --Victorian Railfan Web Site:
http://www.railpage.org.au/vr/Australian VR S class diesel electric – image 42Victorian Bulldogs for MSTS! B and S classes now available!

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VRfanCharter Member · 490 posts

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I've done a bit more to the V/Line S. It now has dual marker lights and a lengthened handrail plus step at the hostlers end. I just have to tweak the textures a bit more and this one will be ready. Australian VR S class diesel electric – image 43--Victorian Railfan Web Site:
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steam4meCharter Member · 193 posts

RE: Australian VR S class diesel electric

LAST EDITED ON Dec-16-02 AT 05:53 PM (EST)

And after a weekend of Christmas parties and swimming precluded going anywhere near the PC, B65 is slowly making progress....Australian VR S class diesel electric – image 45RegardsYuri.
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steam4meCharter Member · 193 posts

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Depends on the weather ..... with three boys and the weather getting hotter to the weekend (40oC/104oF on Sat), they'll want to spend every spare moment in the pool this week (and I'll just have to supervise them); I'm flat out at work so can't sneak onto the PC in the office - in spite of that I am aiming to be able to upload it by the end of the week, once James has given it his seal of approval.Basically, need to do the ladders, portholes, side grilles. Once B65 is done, I can tackle the passenger nose and hopefully use that texture to do some Ss.As you no doubt discovered with the teacup B, James has done an absolutely wonderful job on the textures and it's a challenge to try to reach his lofty standards. I also need to acknowledge James' superb support in providing modified .S files to enable me to texture the side ladders (done now but not in the image above) and the brake gear for the passenger B (silver/grey bogies) as well as the inside of the horns. Thanks James.RegardsYuri.
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michaelgreenhillMember since Oct-2-02 · 60 posts

RE: Australian VR S class diesel electric

Ah yes, the joys of having one's own swimming pool You're quite right, James has done a brilliant job with the textures, once I got started it was so easy to get everything else done. Just started re-skinning the S into ASR colours and once I've got a bit further I'll post some piccies and seek James' approval. Mike.

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VRfanCharter Member · 490 posts

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Hi all,Just a quick update. I noticed that the anticlimb was a fraction too low. This is noticeable on the WCR livery that Yuri is doing where the yellow line along the bottom of the body is supposed to go through the centre of the anticlimb. At the moment, a part of that line is in the top 1/3 of the anticlimb. I'll update all my models to correct this error and upload them to Railpage when it's back online. --Victorian Railfan Web Site:
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steam4meCharter Member · 193 posts

RE: Australian VR S class diesel electric

The passenger livery is proving a challenge - strange looks from passengers at Spencer Street yesterday as I'm photographing and measuring B61's sides. If I can get B61 right, the Ss will be a doddle.A little progress over the past few days....... see belowRegardsYuri.
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k160Member since Aug-24-02 · 33 posts

RE: Australian VR S class diesel electric


I was able to access railpage today via my mobile.I have now got the base colours for the WCR. I still require photo's for the sides. Please contact me at matthewd21@hotmail.comRegards
Matthew Davis.

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k160Member since Aug-24-02 · 33 posts

RE: Australian VR S class diesel electric

Thanks. I was finally able to find a suitable drawing on a web site that helped heaps. As shown below, the WCR S-class is now making huge progress. I would like to wish everyone a merry christmas (what's left of it!) and a happy new year.Regards
Matthew Davis.

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k160Member since Aug-24-02 · 33 posts

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Yeah, it probably looks a little bit too blue. I will try and fix this in the next couple of days:-) Regards
Matthew Davis
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