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I have tried for a long time trying to alias the U-boat sounds from the alias folder from the GEMEGAPAK I get it aliased to another Engine and all I can get is the horn? any help would be appreciated...

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RE: GE Megapack Problems just U-Boat Alias sounds probl

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Does anybody Know What I am talking about,or had the same problem and get it solved? Any Help?

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RE: GE Megapack Problems just U-Boat Alias sounds probl

Yo Dog!
Do you have train-sim installed in the default folder?
Note that the package installer put files in the wrong place if you didn't update the install screen.
Did you make any changes to where the installer put files? Move anything around or change it to conform to your "standards"?
It appears at first glance that the alias paths on your system are invalid....
MSTS should be in
C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Train Simulator
The Cabviews should be under
C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Train Simulator\Common.Cab\<dash what ever cab>
The Sound files should be under
C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Train Simulator\Common.Snd\GE_FDL
(Please Note: Your Sound Alias Files/SMS entries in your ENG files should all point to C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Train Simulator\Common.snd\alias\<appropriate SMS>
All your locomotives should be installed in
C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Train Simulator\Trains\Trainset\NALW_<name of engine goes here>Anything other than the above and it won't work....The above works as some 2,000 other people have testified to...
Again, I suspect it is something you have changed.. You probably should follow up on that...
Chuck Schneider
Chief Cook and Bottle Washer
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Its put into the Default folder I get all the other GE sounds of other locomotives From GEMegaPak but when I alias an Engine to GE UBoat Sounds All I Get is the Horn? Maybe They are Sounds Missing?

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RE: GE Megapack Problems just U-Boat Alias sounds probl

Trust me No Sounds are missing....
Tell me how you are trying to alias to the GE Megapak....Chuck Schneider
Chief Cook and Bottle Washer
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The Guide to Aliasing Sound and CabviewsIn here is the simple method to alias cabviews, however this does not work for all cabviews. Pixelating may occur or you get some very strange cabviews. It is best to use an alias cvf file in the cabview folder to do this. This is done in three Sections, aliasing to the default engines, to NALW and other cabs and sound in the Common.cab or Common.snd Folder, and to third party cabs. This is not that hard to do, the main two things are to be exact in you path to the cab you want to alias and make sure the syntax is correct. There has been some difference of opinion on what to use the \, \\, or /. In my experiments I have found the \\ works the best. I have done quite a bit of testing and that is the only way to do it where aliasing will work consistently. When you test in Conbuilder you may get errors for the cabview and/or the sound, but the best way to determine if it works for you is to try it and run MSTS and see if it works for you. In here is the simple method to alias cabviewsSECTION 1These are the easiest to alias, you have only to change on line in the eng file for the cabview and 2 lines for the sound.GP38 Cabview and sounds:To alias to the GP38 cabview you must change the cabview line from:
CabView ( gp38.cvf )
to this:
CabView ( "..\\..\\GP38\\CABVIEW\\gp38.cvf" )To alias the sounds the lines need to be changed to this:
Sound ( "..\\..\\GP38\\SOUND\\gp38cab.sms" )
and
Sound ( "..\\..\\GP38\\SOUND\\gp38eng.sms" )The DASH9 are done the same way:
Cabview
CabView ( "..\\..\\DASH9\\CABVIEW\\DASH9.cvf" )
Sound
Sound ( "..\\..\\DASH9\\SOUND\\D9cab.sms" )
and
Sound ( "..\\..\\DASH9\\SOUND\\D9eng.sms" ) SECTION 2To alias to a cabview or sound that is loaded as a common cab or sound all you have to do is change the cabview to right cvf or sms. For this example I will use the NALW GP38 cab and the NALW GP40 sounds.Cabview
Change the cabview line to look like this:
CabView ( "..\\..\\Commom.cab\\GP38\\gp38JP.cvf" )Sounds
Change the sms lines to look like this:
Sound ( "..\\..\\Common.snd\\EMD_GP40\\gp40cab.sms" )
and
Sound ( "..\\..\\Common.snd\\EMD_GP40\\gp40eng.sms" )To use this for other cabs and sound use the same line EXCEPT change the path to the correct cvf and sms files.Section 3To alias to a commercial addon you can use the same cvf and sms line in the eng file. You just need to have the correct path to it. If the cabview is not working correctly you need to create an cvf alias file. I would recommend getting one ? NALW cabview packages have one that can be used to create the one that you need. Just follow the format.
If after you do a couple and verify that they do work you can delete the cabview and sound folders from the aliased engines.

Kevin Arceneaux
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RE: GE Megapack Problems just U-Boat Alias sounds probl

Thanks Kevin.... FWIW, I have seen more problems with Conbuilder trying to deal with aliased files than I can shake a stick at... At least once a week somebody writes me and says that Conbuilder says that a cabview or sound file is screwed up and when you check the engine is working fine... This was reported to Carlos Gomes at least 6 months ago and he still hasn't fixed it so it must be a beaut of a problem....
I personally don't use it as I just directly edit the ENG and CVF and SMS files as it is faster for me that way....Chuck Schneider
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I do to. It just is easier for me that way. DOS holdover, doing paths and such. Plus I prefer the control, if it screws up I know I messed the path up. I don't have to figure where the program screwed up.Kevin Arceneaux
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