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Acela7 (28 posts)
May-27-02, 05:27 PM (EDT) "Just checking on a couple projects..." This is going to be my first of three posts to check up on a couple seemingly forgoten projects, ok, WHERE IS THE AEM-7??? It's been 5 months since I last heard any progress on it! Please reply w/ the progress. Another project is the Amtrak Viewliner. Any new developments?I think that's it for this forum.-Jesse Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
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Subject Author Message Date ID RE: Just checking on a couple proje... TrirailF40PHL May-27-02 1 RE: Just checking on a couple proje... dyvach May-27-02 2 RE: Just checking on a couple proje... TrirailF40PHL May-27-02 3 RE: Just checking on a couple proje... troub May-27-02 4 RE: Just checking on a couple proje... TrirailF40PHL May-27-02 5

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TrirailF40PHL (782 posts)
May-27-02, 06:38 PM (EDT) 1. "RE: Just checking on a couple projects..." Hoooooold on!Far as I know, Buzz has not made the AEM-7 shape file yet. He is VERY busy with the Horizon Fleet Coaches and the different variations of the F40PH for the commuter F40 pack. I would like to point out that NALW builds things together, it's not one person doing the whole thing, so it might take time for members to get back to each other. Furthermore, when you make a 3D model, you have to build it (duh!) which takes a while, especially in 3D Canvas. Think of those triangles!Then you have to check the model in the sim. You have to export it, which takes 15 min. Then you find somthing wrong with the model...so you have to fix it! Then you have to export it again, which takes another 15 min. Next, you find somthing wrong again! Then you have to fix it, export it, load sim, check it, find somthing is wrong...and usually you have to do this around 30+ times before you are satisfied.After you do that....you have to texture the model, which will take a couple of days, if not weeks, or months, and you have to consider that it will take a couple of weeks to make the actual textures too. Then you find somthing wrong after you export it into the sim with textures. You go back, correct it, export it, load sim, check it, repeat 15+ times.You finally got the locomotive and textures the way you want it. Now for an .eng file which can take a week....Lighting which can take two weeks for a large model....(I bet Kevin Shea's F45 took 2 months!)Make an .SD file...which takes about a day or a week.Do cabview...2/3 weeks.Sound...2 weeks to 2 months.Screenshots and announcements: 10 hoursPackage it up: 1 hour/1 dayUpload it: 30 min./One hourAppear in file libary after upload: 2 days.That's a while, isn't it? Now don't get mad cause they don't tell you everything RIGHT NOW. Wait, don't expect it. It'll surprise you one day, and you'll be VERY happy.As for the Viewliner, I've got side textures added, and a body shell. Visit www.klwtrainsim.cjb.net for the latest updates. Note that it's still being re-done and not everything is listed.I hope you will think twice before getting mad because it's not here WHEN YOU WANT IT.Be nice.Kurt
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dyvach (136 posts)
May-27-02, 07:11 PM (EDT) 2. "RE: Just checking on a couple projects..." Then you have to check the model in the sim. You have to export it, which takes 15 min.Does it really take so much time to export model from 3DC? this new gMax thing wouldn't take more than a minute, and it was rather heavy model with few LODs...
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TrirailF40PHL (782 posts)
May-27-02, 07:18 PM (EDT) 3. "RE: Just checking on a couple projects..." I don't know how long it takes from .3dc actually, but you have to build all those different distance ranges, save 'em all, put them in the util folder, and crank up Conv3DS, then put it all in a folder, convert your textures....Kurt Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
troub (395 posts)
May-27-02, 08:59 PM (EDT) 4. "RE: Just checking on a couple projects..." LAST EDITED ON May-27-02 AT 09:03 PM (EDT)With 3dCanvas you do not have to run conv3ds, so that saves a little time. What you might want to do (though you shouldn't do it every time just for testing) is run your .s files through ffeditc_unicode to compress them. It really only takes a few seconds to export from 3DCanvas, and like I said, it exports directly into the .s file format. But still, there is all the other stuff that can make a project take weeks or months!Oh, also, as for distance ranges, 3DC handles those more or less automatically, too. You can control it by arranging your model a certain way: the "main" object makes up the main distance level that will always be shown, and you put smaller details in sub-objects that will be removed with distance. Also, if each object uses only one material for that object you can "optimize" the distance levels, which will not only do the aforementioned trimming of objects, but will reduce points and faces in a rather intelligent way, also. I was resistant at first to the "automaticness" of it, but I've found it really works pretty well. . .and quick, too! No designing of many detail levels.troub
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TrirailF40PHL (782 posts)
May-27-02, 09:16 PM (EDT) 5. "RE: Just checking on a couple projects..." Thanks for the info!Kurt Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

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