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Fastruck (68 posts)
May-11-02, 06:42 PM (EDT) "What is this? I saw this on Monster trians on the science channel."

Is anyone making one right now or is anyone going to such as NALW or someone eles? You dont have too if you dont want to.please tell us whats it is. Dosen't look cool anough to make for MSTS.Thanks guys an gals for you time.Fastruck
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Subject Author Message Date ID RE: What is this? I saw this on Mon... ge44tonner May-11-02 1 RE: What is this? I saw this on Mon... CSX_CW60AC_GregMarck May-11-02 2 RE: What is this? I saw this on Mon... Chessie_8563 May-11-02 3 RE: What is this? I saw this on Mon... icsd20 May-11-02 4 RE: What is this? I saw this on Mon... Lone_Gunman_SG Jun-01-02 7 RE: What is this? I saw this on Mon... Fastruck May-11-02 5 RE: What is this? I saw this on Mon... NW_J_611 May-31-02 6 RE: What is this? I saw this on Mon... cdntrains Jun-01-02 8 RE: What is this? I saw this on Mon... ge44tonner Jun-01-02 9 RE: What is this? I saw this on Mon... cdntrains Jun-01-02 10 RE: What is this? I saw this on Mon... Starlight Jun-04-02 11 RE: What is this? I saw this on Mon... darkfyre Jun-05-02 12

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ge44tonner (139 posts)
May-11-02, 09:39 PM (EDT) 1. "RE: What is this? I saw this on Monster trians on the science channel." It's a little hard to tell for sure from the picture, but it looks like the engine might be C&O #614. If so, it's a rather large coal-burning 4-8-4. It ran several tests back about 1990 in support of a proposal by the American Coal Industry to consider construction of modernized coal-burning steam locomotives. The engine handled sizable trains, I recall 6000 to 8000 tons, about 60 to 80 loaded cars. The engine has operated on several occaisions since then, but i'm not sure of it's exact current status or location.
I'm not aware of anyone building this exact locomotive in MSTS, but perhaps someone here on the forum has information they can share. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
CSX_CW60AC_GregMarck (391 posts)
May-11-02, 10:59 PM (EDT) 2. "RE: What is this? I saw this on Monster trians on the science channel." IF, and not to contradict what the pervious post said, my memory serves correctly, this engine is privatly owned and operated and runs excersiouns.Greg Marck
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Chessie_8563 (88 posts)
May-11-02, 11:11 PM (EDT) 3. "RE: What is this? I saw this on Monster trians on the science channel." 614 was restored in the early 1980's by Ross Rosland, under contract by Chessie System to replacer the 2101 that was ALMOST distroyed in a roundhouse fire a few years earlier.From there it was used in Chessie System's Steam program, hualing excussions. in 1984-1986 it was tested on coal trains (note comment above) as a test unit to develop a modern steam loco. (BN was also in this deal but later left, and went on to become a Alternitve fuel pioneer as well as AC traction)Once CSX was formed (railroad part)the steam program was droped and Ross Rosland/614 left CSX.In recent years it ran excussions for NjT and others. It is currently up for sale (and has been for the past few years) Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
icsd20 (324 posts)
May-11-02, 11:46 PM (EDT) 4. "RE: What is this? I saw this on Monster trians on the science channel." LAST EDITED ON May-11-02 AT 11:54 PM (EDT)Howdy.She used to put on a good show too.
A friend of mine got to ride behind her years ago.As far as testing she underwent for the proposed modern steam locomotive, it is documented in a video called The Ace of Black Diamonds. Ross Rowland explains it a little better than I can though. It's an excellent video and I recall a few more videos.I know she is up for sale, but I haven't heard anything for the past year or so.Maybe we should take up a collection.
Thanks,
Sam
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Lone_Gunman_SG (245 posts)
Jun-01-02, 00:21 AM (EDT) 7. "RE: What is this? I saw this on Monster trians on the science channel." Hope someone takes the challenge of modeling her in TSM Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Fastruck (68 posts)
May-11-02, 11:49 PM (EDT) 5. "RE: What is this? I saw this on Monster trians on the science channel." Cool Info guys.
I hope someone tries to make her!A top tech Steam loco with Looks to boot.
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NW_J_611 (9 posts)
May-31-02, 01:56 PM (EDT) 6. "RE: What is this? I saw this on Monster trians on the science channel." yup she's a C&O 4-8-4 greenbriar. Big isnt it. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
cdntrains (27 posts)
Jun-01-02, 00:57 AM (EDT) 8. "RE: What is this? I saw this on Monster trians on the science channel." I also saw her on TLC's show "extreme machines" a while back.. (I had taped it) She was built by LIMA in '48 and is one of the most advanced steam locos ever made.. She was the "last mainline passenger steam loco" to be built in the US.. 112 ft long, 16 ft high, 434 tons.. cdntrains "must be trains in the blood"
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ge44tonner (139 posts)
Jun-01-02, 12:04 PM (EDT) 9. "RE: What is this? I saw this on Monster trians on the science channel." I'm not sure about the statement that the C&O 4-8-4 was the 'Last passenger steam engine built in America' in 1948. Didn't the N&W build the last of the J Class 4-8-4 in 1950? Would that qualify as the 'Last passenger steam'?
Then, of course, if we want to get picky, there have been several full-size engines built for excusion service. The two engines at Promontory Point in Utah were built in the late 1960's, Mount Washington Cog railroad built a new locomotive in the early 1990's, and a company name Crown Metal Products built a number of 3-foot gage engines for amusement park service. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
cdntrains (27 posts)
Jun-01-02, 12:30 PM (EDT) 10. "RE: What is this? I saw this on Monster trians on the science channel." I'm no expert on the subject.. All I did was quote it from a TV program.. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Starlight (340 posts)
Jun-04-02, 07:56 PM (EDT) 11. "RE: What is this? I saw this on Monster trians on the science channel." Well, if you want to go to the other side of the pond, wasn't there a mainline steamer made in germany in the nineties sometime? Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
darkfyre (331 posts)
Jun-05-02, 01:13 PM (EDT) 12. "RE: What is this? I saw this on Monster trians on the science channel."
Anyone know when this was built? Its a BR-1088, think it's German too..was that what you were talkin about?

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