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FozzyBear (885 posts)
Apr-03-02, 11:56 AM (EST) "K-36 Steam Update! Screenshot & Details" K-36 Narrow Gauge Progress Update! Things are going well on this project. 99% of the worst problems are now solved and most of the detail is now in place. Still a few odds and ends to do and tidy up. The Valve gear animation that was causing so many nightmares now works fine Properly quartered wheels and gear. The loco is running well in the sim with no frame rate drops. Poly count is still hovering on the 6000 mark even with the additional details due to five days spent heavily optimising all the components and culling back faces.Texturing is now in progress although I don't expect to be well on with that until next week. Then there's the tender to do (including the doghouse).Any questions, suggestions, or comments... yell em up! I'm listening... although be aware I won't be able to answer any questions between Friday and Monday as I'm away for the weekend.Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)
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Subject Author Message Date ID RE: K-36 Steam Update! Screenshot &... FozzyBear Apr-03-02 1 RE: K-36 Steam Update! Screenshot &... Johansteam Apr-03-02 2 RE: K-36 Steam Update! Screenshot &... FozzyBear Apr-03-02 3 RE: K-36 Steam Update! Screenshot &... riograndedude Apr-03-02 4 RE: K-36 Steam Update! Screenshot &... FozzyBear Apr-03-02 5 RE: K-36 Steam Update! Screenshot &... Smokewraith Apr-04-02 6 RE: K-36 Steam Update! Screenshot &... FozzyBear Apr-04-02 7 RE: K-36 Steam Update! Screenshot &... Xacto Apr-04-02 8 RE: K-36 Steam Update! Screenshot &... FozzyBear Apr-04-02 9 RE: K-36 Steam Update! Screenshot &... Johansteam Apr-04-02 10 RE: K-36 Steam Update! Screenshot &... Euston Apr-04-02 11 RE: K-36 Steam Update! Screenshot &... riograndedude Apr-04-02 12 RE: K-36 Steam Update! Screenshot &... riograndedude Apr-04-02 13 RE: K-36 Steam Update! Screenshot &... FozzyBear Apr-04-02 14 RE: K-36 Steam Update! Screenshot &... JuanFu Apr-06-02 15 RE: K-36 Steam Update! Screenshot &... jfroth1 Apr-06-02 16 RE: K-36 Steam Update! Screenshot &... FozzyBear Apr-07-02 17 RE: K-36 Steam Update! Screenshot &... Euston Apr-07-02 18 RE: K-36 Steam Update! Screenshot &... FozzyBear Apr-07-02 19 RE: K-36 Steam Update! Screenshot &... Euston Apr-07-02 20 RE: K-36 Steam Update! Screenshot &... FozzyBear Apr-07-02 22 RE: K-36 Steam Update! Screenshot &... NickF Apr-07-02 24 RE: K-36 Steam Update! Screenshot &... FozzyBear Apr-07-02 25 RE: K-36 Steam Update! Screenshot &... Hack Apr-07-02 21 RE: K-36 Steam Update! Screenshot &... FozzyBear Apr-07-02 23 RE: K-36 Steam Update! Screenshot &... timken Apr-07-02 26 RE: K-36 Steam Update! Screenshot &... FozzyBear Apr-07-02 27

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FozzyBear (885 posts)
Apr-03-02, 01:00 PM (EST) 1. "RE: K-36 Steam Update! Screenshot & Details" P.S.Note to Rio Grande Dude! It's now got the roof vent you asked about,in place, Just a bit hard to see in that shot.... They didn't fit the big roof vent covers till the 1950's as far as I can make out from photographs... If anybody has information on a date for that please let me know, then I can match up the roof vent types with the liveries!!Best Regards,
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Johansteam (142 posts)
Apr-03-02, 01:13 PM (EST) 2. "RE: K-36 Steam Update! Screenshot & Details" Julian, a mighty fine looking Loco and Quartering as well......WOW. Are you going to make the Cabview or do you want me, to try? I'd be happy to. Drop me a "E" mail.
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FozzyBear (885 posts)
Apr-03-02, 01:56 PM (EST) 3. "RE: K-36 Steam Update! Screenshot & Details"
>you going to make the
>Cabview or do you want
>me, to try? I'd be
>happy to.YEAH!! Please Johan, I love your cabs for the General, I use them all the time. I have pleanty of material to help you do it. Plus it'd mean the cab gets done sooner than I could do it. I'll mail you!!Best Regards,
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riograndedude (268 posts)
Apr-03-02, 05:55 PM (EST) 4. "RE: K-36 Steam Update! Screenshot & Details" Hey how's the "superDetails" going, Aircomp and oilpump
Cant Wait

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FozzyBear (885 posts)
Apr-03-02, 08:10 PM (EST) 5. "RE: K-36 Steam Update! Screenshot & Details" >Hey how's the "superDetails" going, Aircomp
>and oilpump Going well! Getting it to run with full quartering was the big hurdle. Now that works I can try and force in the other working bits.... Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)
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Smokewraith (84 posts)
Apr-04-02, 00:36 AM (EST) 6. "RE: K-36 Steam Update! Screenshot & Details" All I can say is WOW! Bill
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FozzyBear (885 posts)
Apr-04-02, 09:24 AM (EST) 7. "RE: K-36 Steam Update! Screenshot & Details"
Just to keep you amused, here's a progress shot on the so far untextured valve gear.Best Regards,
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Xacto (683 posts)
Apr-04-02, 09:39 AM (EST) 8. "RE: K-36 Steam Update! Screenshot & Details" Wow, an engineering wonderland!! I said it when you first posted the pics of the loco, it's going to be a blast watching all this machinery move when the loco is finally ours. I'm very impressed, I can tell you are enjoying this project.Cliff Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
FozzyBear (885 posts)
Apr-04-02, 10:02 AM (EST) 9. "RE: K-36 Steam Update! Screenshot & Details" LAST EDITED ON Apr-04-02 AT 10:06 AM (EST)>Wow, an engineering wonderland!! I
>said it when you first
>posted the pics of the
>loco, it's going to be
>a blast watching all this
>machinery move when the loco
>is finally ours. I'm very
>impressed, I can tell you
>are enjoying this project. Hi and thanks Cliff! Owning and understanding working steam locomotives does help a lot when it comes to building them for MSTS. I do read engineering drawings, and that also makes getting it to work properly easier. I'm really looking forward to getting this project completed. I've had all the usual nightmares with it. It does indeed look wonderful when all the valve gear is moving. There's something quite magical abut the way locomotives with outside cranks look while they're working. I'm going as fast as I can on it, but I'm determined not to compromise the finished result by rushing it out. Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)

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Johansteam (142 posts)
Apr-04-02, 11:20 AM (EST) 10. "RE: K-36 Steam Update! Screenshot & Details" Julian, I agree with you 100% " Not to compromise " by rushing it.
It is such a pitty that no-one has resolved the " Sound " for the Steamers yet?
Things like: Closing the Regulator..the chuffing sound from the exhaust stack, should stop and only the wheel sound running over the track joints should be heard. The chuffing sounds more realisticly synchronised with wheel rotation.
I'm not in the least complaining, only stating that it will be GREAT. ( Like your Loco Julian )
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Euston (960 posts)
Apr-04-02, 12:41 PM (EST) 11. "RE: K-36 Steam Update! Screenshot & Details" Wow - can't wait for that.Look out for an activity pack soon.
http://clix.to/trainsim 6 New locos and 12 new activities avaliable NOW!!!!
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riograndedude (268 posts)
Apr-04-02, 06:05 PM (EST) 12. "RE: K-36 Steam Update! Screenshot & Details" It is great how Locos with outside frames work. It's almost Hyponitic watching them go, good thing my dad was driving that time otherwize there would have been one huge wreck with our truck hitting that Cadaliac.

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riograndedude (268 posts)
Apr-04-02, 06:08 PM (EST) 13. "RE: K-36 Steam Update! Screenshot & Details" Oh, another thing, is it just me or has the tool boxes on the Durango and Silverton's K-36's disapered lately? just looking at some photos and cant find them, the C&TS has them but not the D&S.
Im confused!

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FozzyBear (885 posts)
Apr-04-02, 06:50 PM (EST) 14. "RE: K-36 Steam Update! Screenshot & Details" >Oh, another thing, is it just
>me or has the tool
>boxes on the Durango and
>Silverton's K-36's disapered lately?
>just looking at some photos
>and cant find them, the
>C&TS has them but not
>the D&S.
>Im confused!So am I! The original works drawings dated 1926 for the K-37 shows the tool box in place. Yet that same side toolbox doesn't appear in any of the photographs I can see, until post WWII.The mystery deepens!! :-S I think we're going to have to rely on photographs which have a known date for each locomotive that gets modelled.Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)... See you after the weekend!!
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JuanFu (50 posts)
Apr-06-02, 04:32 PM (EST) 15. "RE: K-36 Steam Update! Screenshot & Details" The K-36 is looking good!!! Good job on modeling!!!-Zach Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
jfroth1 (170 posts)
Apr-06-02, 06:46 PM (EST) 16. "RE: K-36 Steam Update! Screenshot & Details" Wow, Julian, that looks fabulous!
I think our language needs new descriptive adjectives since we've used them all up. "Holy Chit!" (WITH the exclamation) is my submission to the language police for inclusion in all new dictionaries.
John Roth
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FozzyBear (885 posts)
Apr-07-02, 00:42 AM (EST) 17. "RE: K-36 Steam Update! Screenshot & Details" Thanks for the compliments guys! I'm not an artist.. I'm an engineer. I find the by sticking to the design drawings for the real thing as rigidly as you can, what falls out of the other end tends to look prety much like the real machine (with a few MSTS compromises)......I could do with a bit more feedback on this toolbox question if anybody has any ideas??Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)
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Euston (960 posts)
Apr-07-02, 05:21 AM (EST) 18. "RE: K-36 Steam Update! Screenshot & Details" LAST EDITED ON Apr-07-02 AT 05:32 AM (EST)Hey Fozzy, can't help with the toolbox, but I wonder if you could help me.I want to start work on a Marias based activity pack - so if you could e-mail (or post here) the following details:names of .s, .sd, .eng and .wag files, and folder name.Then I can use a current loco, and name it as the K-36, so all the consists will be usable with the K-36 when it is released.
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FozzyBear (885 posts)
Apr-07-02, 05:39 AM (EST) 19. "RE: K-36 Steam Update! Screenshot & Details" LAST EDITED ON Apr-07-02 AT 05:43 AM (EST)You got mail EustonBest Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)*******************************************Ermmmmmmm Correction!! You will have mail Euston! LOL I have no e-mail access where I am today, I'll drop you a mail when I get back tomorrow morning. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Euston (960 posts)
Apr-07-02, 05:51 AM (EST) 20. "RE: K-36 Steam Update! Screenshot & Details" Okay.Could you put in the e-mail what rolling stock I should use.I planned to use the old PO&N (1885 set) coaches and wagons, but there might be some more prototypical stuff.
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FozzyBear (885 posts)
Apr-07-02, 07:22 AM (EST) 22. "RE: K-36 Steam Update! Screenshot & Details" >I planned to use the old
>PO&N (1885 set) coaches and
>wagons, but there might be
>some more prototypical stuff.There are some Durango And Silverton Coach repaints in the file library. You might want to take a look at those! Grizzly Bear did em. Other than that, I'll be doing some D&RGW rolling stock, passenger and freight, as soon as I can track down enough information to get started on it. A few good photographs and better still some good drawings and I should be able to crank those out quite fast.
Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)

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NickF (817 posts)
Apr-07-02, 09:03 AM (EST) 24. "RE: K-36 Steam Update! Screenshot & Details" Julian,Here is a quick source for drawings for the passenger equipment.Nickhttp://www.drgw.org/data/passenger/folio6/index.htm Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
FozzyBear (885 posts)
Apr-07-02, 01:08 PM (EST) 25. "RE: K-36 Steam Update! Screenshot & Details" >Here is a quick source for
>drawings for the passenger equipment. Thanks Nick! That's a good start.... I've been comparing those to some of the Bachman G-Scale rolling stock. I'm convinced that 80% of The Bachman Stock is actually D&RGW stock with all sorts of non NG road names on it. I'm going to check this a bit futher but if it is, it'll present a really good source of model reference.
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Hack (634 posts)
Apr-07-02, 06:39 AM (EST) 21. "RE: K-36 Steam Update! Screenshot & Details" Damn, that looks sweet! You're such a tease, Fozzy! ;)Cheers!
Marc - 3DTrains
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FozzyBear (885 posts)
Apr-07-02, 07:25 AM (EST) 23. "RE: K-36 Steam Update! Screenshot & Details" Hi Marc,LOL Guess you didn't need to remind yourself to prod me for updates then!! Pitty really, everybody needs and excuse to have a K-27 on top of the monitior!Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)
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timken (326 posts)
Apr-07-02, 01:50 PM (EST) 26. "RE: K-36 Steam Update! Screenshot & Details" If you have any question about the engines or rolling stock, here's where you'll get a quick answer. It's where I got the sound for the engine! http://www.ngdiscussion.net/cgi-bin/NGDFcook.pl The Narrow Gauge discussion board is a great bunch with many active narrow gauge people on it. Steve Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
FozzyBear (885 posts)
Apr-07-02, 02:03 PM (EST) 27. "RE: K-36 Steam Update! Screenshot & Details" >The Narrow Gauge discussion board
>is a great bunch with
>many active narrow gauge people
>on it. Thanks Steve! I'll give that a try. BTW I have a mail for you when I get back on Monday! I did get the new sound files but just didn't get time before I left to send you a reply! Sorry!Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)
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