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JensChris (92 posts)
Jan-27-02, 09:40 AM (EST) "Generations meet..." Look here...
From left to right :
- Tony's awesome F40PH (hint, hint, download 'em) Amtrak #277
- my P-42 Phase III, Amtrak paint #18
- my P-42 Phase IV, Amtrak paint #111
- my P-42 Phase V, Amtrak paint #36
- Kuju's... strange example of a "Genesis" ??


Kuju's "Biggest Loco"
Another view...
Look at the bogies... Kuju ?? Freight Wagon bogies ??
Right : A whale on rails...
Coming to your yard, soon !!!!My P-42 is made with TSM,
Kuju's Genesis is made with 3DMax (?).Jens-Chris Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
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Subject Author Message Date ID RE: Generations meet... TrainTrak5000 Jan-27-02 1 RE: Generations meet... CPrailman Jan-27-02 2 RE: Generations meet... michigandon Jan-27-02 3 RE: Generations meet... chucksc Jan-27-02 4 RE: Generations meet... chucksc Jan-27-02 5 RE: Generations meet... SP9800 Jan-27-02 7 RE: Generations meet... JensChris Jan-27-02 9 RE: Generations meet... chucksc Jan-27-02 12 RE: Generations meet... JensChris Jan-28-02 16 RE: Generations meet... chucksc Jan-28-02 19 RE: Generations meet... SP9800 Jan-28-02 17 RE: Generations meet... JensChris Jan-28-02 18 RE: Generations meet... WestSlopeRRfan Jan-28-02 15 RE: Generations meet... SD80MAC Jan-27-02 6 RE: Generations meet... CPR_Malice_96th Jan-27-02 8 RE: Generations meet... chucksc Jan-27-02 10 RE: Generations meet... ohmcno Jan-28-02 23 RE: Generations meet... ChooChooCharlie Jan-27-02 13 RE: Generations meet... henry3 Jan-27-02 11 RE: Generations meet... BlakeTyner Jan-28-02 14 RE: Amtrak Engines krmtrains Jan-28-02 20 RE: Amtrak Engines amtrakmatt Jan-28-02 21 RE: Generations meet... TrirailF40PHL Jan-28-02 22 RE: Generations meet... Macster Jan-28-02 24 RE: Generations meet... SD80MAC Jan-28-02 25 RE: Generations meet... mcmulica Jan-28-02 26 RE: Generations meet... amtrakmatt Jan-29-02 27 RE: Generations meet... Splatter Jan-29-02 28 RE: Generations meet... Alex Jan-29-02 29 RE: Generations meet... ChooChooCharlie Jan-30-02 30 RE: Generations meet... CP3084 Jan-30-02 32 RE: Generations meet... JensChris Jan-30-02 33 RE: Generations meet... CP3084 Jan-30-02 34 RE: Generations meet... traveller Jan-30-02 31

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TrainTrak5000 (228 posts)
Jan-27-02, 10:22 AM (EST) 1. "RE: Generations meet..." WOW! I want all of them!!! (Except that horrible looking one on the far right ) Most excellent job!Mike Karlik
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CPrailman (338 posts)
Jan-27-02, 12:28 PM (EST) 2. "RE: Generations meet..." Holy Smokes , Jens Chris your really really good at modelling these beasts. Your P-42s are awesome. I have been waitng for the P42s so that people can make the re-paints not normally possible.
I can see no flaw except for one thing i am not sure about. On your P-42 phase 5 scheme the bogies are blue, Is that how they are ? I am not sure.Anyways great work!
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michigandon (422 posts)
Jan-27-02, 01:24 PM (EST) 3. "RE: Generations meet..." Can you make one of these up with thew correct loco name, .eng file name, etc so that it will automatically overwrite that HIDEOUS MONSTROCITY that came with the game? Finally, a Genesis unit worthy of samespades cab! Hip hip, HOORAY! Don Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
chucksc (810 posts)
Jan-27-02, 01:27 PM (EST) 4. "RE: Generations meet..." Actually 705 is a P32acDM Genesis II in real life... Go look it up on the various Amtrak Photo Sites.....
Pretty Good looking Locos! I assume you rebuilt them completely using TSM? As we have looked into reskining the 705 into various color schemes ( other than the renumbering into #50 that Buzz did ) and concluded that the dimensions were wrong and Kuju's texture mapping was horrible to the point of hopelessness! You saved Buzz and Tim a couple of projects there in rebuilding the Genesis...------Chuck Schneider---------

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chucksc (810 posts)
Jan-27-02, 01:30 PM (EST) 5. "RE: Generations meet..." BTW, Isn't Tony your dad?------Chuck Schneider---------

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SP9800 (177 posts)
Jan-27-02, 02:03 PM (EST) 7. "RE: Generations meet..." >On your
>P-42 phase 5 scheme the
>bogies are blue, Is that
>how they are ? I
>am not sure. These units have gray underframes. There are also two different variations of the phase V paint scheme, which regard the blue and red stripes near the bottom of the carbody. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
JensChris (92 posts)
Jan-27-02, 03:02 PM (EST) 9. "RE: Generations meet..." You're not at all right...
Amtrak buyed new P-42, they are factory-painted with grey underframes...
The older ones, repainted into Phase V from Phase III or IV,
have a blue underframe, sometimes also grey...
I'll search for some pics...I am 15 years old...
Yes, Tony is my dad...Jens-Chris Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
chucksc (810 posts)
Jan-27-02, 07:30 PM (EST) 12. "RE: Generations meet..." Jens-Chris,
Are you saying I'm not at all right about #705 the default MSTS Genesis!
Here is a picture of the REAL Locomotive (note the 3rd rail shoes on the trucks); and the Builders Plate....

You might also want to go to
http://198.30.209.3/amtrak/amtGEN32.html
>You're not at all right...
>Amtrak buyed new P-42, they are
>factory-painted with grey underframes...
>The older ones, repainted into Phase
>V from Phase III or
>IV,
>have a blue underframe, sometimes also
>grey...
>I'll search for some pics...
>
>I am 15 years old...
>Yes, Tony is my dad...
>
>Jens-Chris
------Chuck Schneider---------

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JensChris (92 posts)
Jan-28-02, 01:48 PM (EST) 16. "RE: Generations meet..." Hey Chuck !!Sorry, I didn't meant you, I meant SP9800...Jens-Chris
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chucksc (810 posts)
Jan-28-02, 03:51 PM (EST) 19. "RE: Generations meet..." No problem... Take that link I sent you and browse around for paint schemes...its part of a larger website will all the Amtrak Paint schemes represented....
For most of their engines....------Chuck Schneider---------

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SP9800 (177 posts)
Jan-28-02, 02:38 PM (EST) 17. "RE: Generations meet..." >You're not at all right...
>Amtrak buyed new P-42, they are
>factory-painted with grey underframes...
>The older ones, repainted into Phase
>V from Phase III or
>IV,
>have a blue underframe, sometimes also
>grey...
>I'll search for some pics... The only way you will get a picture of a phase V unit with a blue underframe is if you take it into Photoshop or a similar program and make it blue yourself. ALL of the units I have seen, both repaints and factory-painted, have gray underframes. I have personally seen the 36, which is your unit, and its underframe is gray.I will scan and post some photos of the repaints if you still don't believe me. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
JensChris (92 posts)
Jan-28-02, 03:19 PM (EST) 18. "RE: Generations meet..." I'm so sorry...I thought that the colour was blue, on my pic it was very dark, and I thought it would look quite pretty with blue underframes.Am I right that some units have a blue... don't know how to say this... lower front and plow ??
And of course grey bogies, I remembered, I've seen one loco with a blue "Snow Plow".I'll repaint it soon...Sorry again...Jens-Chris
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WestSlopeRRfan (179 posts)
Jan-28-02, 01:05 AM (EST) 15. "RE: Generations meet..." As ALWAYS Jens Chris excellent work!!You are an assest to our train-sim community.Nick


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SD80MAC (624 posts)
Jan-27-02, 01:59 PM (EST) 6. "RE: Generations meet..." Jens-Chris...Although i'm not a big fan of passenger trains...your model/re-paints look so darn good,i'm gonna add em to my pc as soon as i can get my hands on em'...They look really good!Nice work their...Buddy! Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
CPR_Malice_96th (508 posts)
Jan-27-02, 02:42 PM (EST) 8. "RE: Generations meet..." Hmmm,Thats a shame that I'm gonna have to replace those skins right away with the new VIA Rail scheme thoughSorry !!Tim Kent
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chucksc (810 posts)
Jan-27-02, 03:05 PM (EST) 10. "RE: Generations meet..." Hey Tim,Don't forget the Metro North/CDot - "New Haven Heritage Scheme" on the newest Metro North P32acDMs... IMHO the prettiest scheme ever painted on a Genesii! (Sorry it just nudges out the Via scheme which is better than most of the Amtrak schemes even though Phase V is pretty decent)
------Chuck Schneider---------

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ohmcno (58 posts)
Jan-28-02, 08:08 PM (EST) 23. "RE: Generations meet..." I will do both the NH and Metro-North skins.Michael Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
ChooChooCharlie (68 posts)
Jan-27-02, 08:26 PM (EST) 13. "RE: Generations meet..." Yes VIA Repaint. GO for it!!


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henry3 (529 posts)
Jan-27-02, 06:46 PM (EST) 11. "RE: Generations meet..." LAST EDITED ON Jan-27-02 AT 06:46 PM (EST)The only thing I can say is.... JENS-CHRIS, MSTS HERO!!!!!Once these models get distributed, one of Kuju's worst travesties will start to disappear from our desktops.Thanks for treating us to a wonderful set of locomotives. I can't wait to see the repaints.BTW, I like your Dad's F40PH too!Henry Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
BlakeTyner (50 posts)
Jan-28-02, 00:53 AM (EST) 14. "RE: Generations meet..." VERY VERY nice work! The it's amazing how a paint job can add so much to the same shape...compare the phase 3's and 4's to the Shamu paint...especially up front. I cannot wait to download all those (F40 included) and get that Godforsaken Kuju off my puter for good!Thanks Jens...much appreciated.Blake Harris
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krmtrains (28 posts)
Jan-28-02, 04:57 PM (EST) 20. "RE: Amtrak Engines" I'm very much looking forward to these engines. they really look great! Will the GE units be available soon?Happy Training,Kevin Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
amtrakmatt (15 posts)
Jan-28-02, 06:53 PM (EST) 21. "RE: Amtrak Engines" Just so you know your horns are wrong on all of the units shown, and the P42s in PH III and PH IV have dark grey on the roof, and both are different. You might want to check the photos on them.
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TrirailF40PHL (318 posts)
Jan-28-02, 07:37 PM (EST) 22. "RE: Generations meet..." WOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOW!!!!! Jens-Chris, you really know TSM!! Those P42s are SHARP!(You know BTW, I was thinking of asking you if you wanted to join me at KLWtrainsim, I think I would of been asking too much!)Kurt Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Macster (359 posts)
Jan-28-02, 09:08 PM (EST) 24. "RE: Generations meet..." How about this...stop nit-picking about the locomotives already, there are damn nice looking, and should be GLAD we have them in the first place. If you have a problem about them, don't download them or repaint them yourself. Thank you Jens-Chris for these killer locomotives! Brian E. Bundridge
Seattle, WA USA


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SD80MAC (624 posts)
Jan-28-02, 10:55 PM (EST) 25. "RE: Generations meet..." Hey!...who's the dude in the conductors seat?...Why it's Jens-Chris himself!!!...nice touch!

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mcmulica (26 posts)
Jan-28-02, 11:37 PM (EST) 26. "RE: Generations meet..." Woooooooohoooooooooo!!!! 'Bout darn time someone did Phase V on those engines! Awesome work.....can't wait to see some new Dash units. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
amtrakmatt (15 posts)
Jan-29-02, 08:41 PM (EST) 27. "RE: Generations meet..." Mr. Brian E. Bundridge,
Perhaps if you had read my post without such a negative mindset, you would have seen that I didn't bash his locomotive at all. I merely pointed out the fact that is horns are completely unprototypical (and if u wanna call me a nitpicker, fine, but many will agree a horn is one of the most distinguishing attributes to a locomotive). Also, his paint was wrong, and that isn't nit picking in my mind as I think most people would agree that color is pretty important too! If I wanted to nit pick, I could crab about the Lego Man engineer, the "bubbled" ladders, and roof fans that are way too tall among other things. No one is perfect and I know I don't know how to draw a locomotive for MSTS that well! I chose not to nit pick and/or bash someone for no apparent reason. You however deserve it! Must be you are one of the HO modelers who cannot tell the difference between a standard Bachmann and a Kato. Next time you decide to criticise my eye for detail, take a look at what was actually said.
Matt
<<How about this...stop nit-picking about the locomotives already, there are damn nice looking, and should be GLAD we have them in the first place. If you have a problem about them, don't download them or repaint them yourself.
Thank you Jens-Chris for these killer locomotives! Brian E. Bundridge
Seattle, WA USA>>
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Splatter (214 posts)
Jan-29-02, 09:20 PM (EST) 28. "RE: Generations meet..." LAST EDITED ON Jan-29-02 AT 09:21 PM (EST)Matt your post did sound negative so let's drop the HO modeler mudslinging.You must understand Jens is a 15 year old from Germany.He has never seen an Amtrak train in the flesh in his life.He has accomplished what MANY here have been wanting,a new Genesis.If the color bothers you enough to comment about it,download TGATool and use MSPaint and reskin it,that's what I do.Oh and Jens,another masterpiece !!!!!!Freddie A. Huff
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Alex (274 posts)
Jan-29-02, 09:53 PM (EST) 29. "RE: Generations meet..." <<from Germany.He has never seen an Amtrak train in the flesh in his life>>so that's why he gives the guy more imput it is beautiful though, I always wanted that! Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
ChooChooCharlie (68 posts)
Jan-30-02, 01:10 AM (EST) 30. "RE: Generations meet..." Well my.02 cents, I rather like the blue trucks! Like splatter said in the above post You can repaint to any color you want... Cheers

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CP3084 (94 posts)
Jan-30-02, 09:18 AM (EST) 32. "RE: Generations meet..." Jens!!!!!!! You Da MAN!I dont care where a guy is from, online there are enough resources to do the models.If ya dont like what he does, dont touch it. Simple as that.Paint it what ya like! I think a pink frame stripe would be nicer on the Phase 5.....maybe just alter the whole blue areas on it to pink. Or put UP yellow red and grey with a SP Sunset Logo on the nose! New Haven Colors with a CN Maple Leaf?Give it up guys. Be grateful its been done.Jens, Tony, could one of you guys email me. I have some questions to ask ya aka the F40PH.Jon Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
JensChris (92 posts)
Jan-30-02, 12:32 PM (EST) 33. "RE: Generations meet..." LAST EDITED ON Jan-30-02 AT 12:32 PM (EST)What's your mail address ??---------
15 years old, from Germany, MSTS 3D Add-on maker and repainter
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CP3084 (94 posts)
Jan-30-02, 04:19 PM (EST) 34. "RE: Generations meet..." railink@hotmail.com Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
traveller (7 posts)
Jan-30-02, 07:50 AM (EST) 31. "RE: Generations meet..." Every day a Christmas Day? Not possible? Then visit Train- Sim and look at "Generations meet..." Phantastic!!!John Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

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