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HAC (460 posts)
Jan-25-02, 02:26 PM (EST) "My Steam wish list... (with pics!)" There are some truly steamers we could have for MSTS.. check out these..(Ok.. most of these are PRR, but they are still cool steamers..)First off, one of my all time favourites..
CPR "Jubilee" F2A 4-4-4

PRR Q1 4-6-4-4

PRR Q2 4-6-4-4

PRR S1 6-4-4-6

PRR S2 6-8-6 Steam Turbine

PRR T1 4-4-4-4

Milwaukee Class A 4-4-2

Milwaaukee F7 4-6-4
Thats my list of way cool US steamers.. Lets not even begin to get into some of the European stuff. (France and Italy and Germany also had some cool steamers.. Some of Chapelons designs and mods for the French Railway were pretty impressive)cheers
Harold
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Subject Author Message Date ID RE: My Steam wish list... (with pic... leesome1226 Jan-25-02 1 RE: My Steam wish list... (with pic... HAC Jan-25-02 2 RE: My Steam wish list... (with pic... leesome1226 Jan-25-02 3 RE: My Steam wish list... (with pic... HAC Jan-25-02 5 RE: My Steam wish list... (with pic... leesome1226 Jan-25-02 6 RE: My Steam wish list... GeneralWilly Jan-25-02 4 RE: My Steam wish list... lightbg Jan-25-02 7 RE: My Steam wish list... HAC Jan-25-02 8 RE: My Steam wish list... (with pic... plainsman Jan-25-02 9 RE: My Steam wish list... (with pic... cjmaclean Jan-26-02 10 RE: My Steam wish list... (with pic... ssw Jan-26-02 11 RE: My Steam wish list... (with pic... nw_fan Jan-26-02 12 RE: My Steam wish list... (with pic... riograndedude Jan-26-02 13 RE: My Steam wish list... (with pic... nw_fan Jan-26-02 14 RE: My Steam wish list... (with pic... delamaize Jan-27-02 15

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leesome1226 (488 posts)
Jan-25-02, 03:16 PM (EST) 1. "RE: My Steam wish list... (with pics!)" Harold,Your list shows one main point.The Pennsy had a lot of really inventive ideas, which translated to some truely intresting steamers.Although I couldn't help but notice one curoius admission from your list, can you say 2816?Chris Lee
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HAC (460 posts)
Jan-25-02, 04:28 PM (EST) 2. "RE: My Steam wish list... (with pics!) - Touché" Hiya Chris..
Touché! - I suppose what I really meant to say was this was my wish list for oddball steam.. I have always been attracted to the weird and wonderful stuff.. I suppose I should have included
CP 8000.
Having said that, you are correct.. 2816 with vintage heavyweights, on Jason's Laggan Sub, would be heaven.
Hmm.. need pics of 2816, I can provide them (along with lots of dimensional and detail info, and detail pics are real easy for me to get <G>) Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
leesome1226 (488 posts)
Jan-25-02, 04:36 PM (EST) 3. "RE: My Steam wish list... (with pics!) - Touché" Harold,Well, you certainly have some of the oddballs up there. When at Steamtown I used to marvel at the 4-4-4, although I think they donated it to somewhere and its no longer there anymore. Another one of my favorties was the 4-6-4T, a fine tank locomotive.Any and all 2816 stuff would be wonderful, maybe you could even put my in touch with the Enginners/firemen so I could pick their brains a little.8000, whats that?
Chris Lee
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HAC (460 posts)
Jan-25-02, 05:08 PM (EST) 5. "RE: My Steam wish list... (with pics!) - Touché" I'll scan my 2816 pics and pass em on.. What do you need to know
from the crew? I'll ask around and see what I can get as far as info goes..(I only know one of the crew, but I think I can get any info you may need..)
T4a #8000 was an experimental loco,utilizing steam at extremely high pressures, (over 300 psi)and was operated on the Mountain Subdivision from 1931-1936. Although the design proved to be moderately successful, its complexity made it difficult to maintain, and it was withdrawn from service and eventually scrapped in 1940. She was tricky enough to run that there were only a few crews qualified to operate her..I've got the specs at home somewhere, maybe a pic as well, I'll look when I get home
through the currnet blizzard.. Gotta love Calgary +9 degrees C and sunny yesterday, snow and down to -33C tonight.. boring its not..cheers
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leesome1226 (488 posts)
Jan-25-02, 05:19 PM (EST) 6. "RE: My Steam wish list... (with pics!) - Touché" Over 300 PSI, thats a time bomb waiting to go off if something bad goes wrong. Must not have been too successful, thats what ussally happened with all the weird engines. They were test beds that didn't work out. Nothing inparticular from the crew, I just always enjoy hearing what long time RR's have to say. Its always very intresting.Chris Lee
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GeneralWilly (14 posts)
Jan-25-02, 04:47 PM (EST) 4. "RE: My Steam wish list... " That PRR S1 6-4-4-6 would look realy good in MSTS. That has been a favorite of mine.Nick
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lightbg (339 posts)
Jan-25-02, 05:35 PM (EST) 7. "RE: My Steam wish list... " HAC,
I knew in the back of my mind that you were a Closet Conrailer! ( PRR > PC > CR )......
BTW, Congratulations on your pact with Train Artisan, although IMHO your personal skins are very fine works as well.
---------Jake------------
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HAC (460 posts)
Jan-25-02, 07:06 PM (EST) 8. "RE: My Steam wish list... " Yeah.. its a big closet I have..is there any "Big Blue" in my skinning plans? - hmm..cheers
Harold
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plainsman (545 posts)
Jan-25-02, 08:28 PM (EST) 9. "RE: My Steam wish list... (with pics!)" OK, here is my list:1) UP 4-12-2 built from 1926. 88 were built, very efficient design used for long fast freights.2) NP 2-8-8-4 Yellowstones from 1930. Handsome bigiron muscle.3) AT&SF 4-4-6-2 Passenger locomotive from 1909.Bob Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
cjmaclean (755 posts)
Jan-26-02, 07:23 AM (EST) 10. "RE: My Steam wish list... (with pics!)" Good choices all around! I like those Duplexes best ...and also those 4-6-4-4s and 4-4-6-4s... D.M.
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ssw (49 posts)
Jan-26-02, 02:17 PM (EST) 11. "RE: My Steam wish list... (with pics!)" I'll second (and third if neccessary) the mIlwaukee Steamers. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
nw_fan (205 posts)
Jan-26-02, 07:03 PM (EST) 12. "RE: My Steam wish list... (with pics!)" LAST EDITED ON Jan-26-02 AT 07:06 PM (EST)I guess I'd better chime in, in case anyone forgot these two! Think of the fun - riding in the doghouse on top of the tender of the Class A!
Mike
Norfolk & Western
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riograndedude (151 posts)
Jan-26-02, 07:18 PM (EST) 13. "RE: My Steam wish list... (with pics!)"
You forgot one

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nw_fan (205 posts)
Jan-26-02, 10:17 PM (EST) 14. "RE: My Steam wish list... (with pics!)" LAST EDITED ON Jan-26-02 AT 10:34 PM (EST)riograndedude, you're right I did forget one... or maybe I could have just used this from the git-go...
Seriously though, hopefully someday all three of these will be available. And hopefully not the too, too distant future.And Chris Lee... all three ran on 300 psi. They are rumored to have up'd the Y-6b and A used versus the EMD F7 demonstrators to 310 or 320 psi, but even in the 70's the man who knew the truth wouldn't discuss the matter. That's OK, EMD people later admitted they tweaked the HP by 200 HP (from 1500 per unit to 1700 per unit, I think) for each of the 4 units during the tests as well.And, I wouldn't mind seeing a Pennsy T-1, they were definitely interesting, but I'd like to see some more everyday type power. And yes the Big Boy/Challenger would be good. And so would the Allegheny. Or SP's cab-forwards. There I admitted it. There were other engines that I appreciate besides N&W's! Mike
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delamaize (33 posts)
Jan-27-02, 00:06 AM (EST) 15. "RE: My Steam wish list... (with pics!)" Hmmmm......Steam turbine Would be cool, I wish PRR wouldn't have scrapped them all. It would be a wonder to see on the reails in front of an exabition train. "Long Live High Speed In The USA!"
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