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nw_fan (182 posts)
Jan-11-02, 09:19 PM (EST) "loco & wagon wheels below rail top" Anyone else notice that the wheels are almost always sunken into the track top a couple inches? I believe it has to do with how the tracks are formed. I believe the bottom of the wheels is set to the top of the ties/ballast texture rather than the rail head texture. Would it be better to create rolling stock whose pivot point is set 3 or so inches low so the wheels ride ON TOP of the rail? Check it out for yourself and see if you agree.Mike
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Subject Author Message Date ID RE: loco & wagon wheels below rail ... TAfan Jan-11-02 1 RE: loco & wagon wheels below rail ... Dennis Jan-11-02 2 RE: loco & wagon wheels below rail ... clashley Jan-12-02 3 RE: loco & wagon wheels below rail ... svante Jan-12-02 4 RE: loco & wagon wheels below rail ... nw_fan Jan-12-02 5

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TAfan (175 posts)
Jan-11-02, 09:50 PM (EST) 1. "RE: loco & wagon wheels below rail top" On the contrary, I always thought that things appear to roll above the track - ever-so-slightly in mid-air! Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Dennis (87 posts)
Jan-11-02, 09:53 PM (EST) 2. "RE: loco & wagon wheels below rail top" Yes you're right, I always leave the main pivot at 0,0 and raise the whole model abit up.
It seems the pivot will be at groundlevel in the sim instead of on top of the rail.Works fine for me Dennis van Tergouw Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
clashley (186 posts)
Jan-12-02, 04:07 AM (EST) 3. "RE: loco & wagon wheels below rail top" The "sunken wheel" phenomenon is caused by inconsistencies in the MSTS detail settings. If you set the detail level in your display option to a low level, the track textures are flat (no raised rails), and the locomotives/rolling stock appear to roll perfectly on the rails. At higher details levels, MSTS renders 3-dimensional rails, and this is where the "sunken effect" occurs. I collected some data from an extensive group of beta testers awhile back, and found that the vast majority of MSTS users use lower detail settings in MSTS. Therefore, if models are designed to roll perfectly on 3-dimensional rails, the models will appear to "float" for most users. Go figure...Cameron Lashley Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
svante (389 posts)
Jan-12-02, 04:08 AM (EST) 4. "RE: loco & wagon wheels below rail top" You have to raise the wheels (and the whole model) 2 inches above ground in order for them to ride on top of the rails. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
nw_fan (182 posts)
Jan-12-02, 05:37 PM (EST) 5. "RE: loco & wagon wheels below rail top" I didn't realize the lower detail setting issue. Like you said go figure. It would have been nicer to raise the ballast rather than lower the the rail. Or use side faces on the rails at higher levels would be even better. Let's face it, whenever a good game comes out we all upgrade our systmes to take full advantage of it. I'm presently doing that with my system. If the game wasn't that great, I'd move on, but it has a ton of potential and I wish to take advantage of it.Mike
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