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gippone (7 posts)
Jan-01-02, 05:07 PM (EST) "someone knows how to convert a .s (shape) MSTS file in 3ds (3dstudio)??" someone knows how to convert a .s (shape) MSTS file, in 3ds (3dstudio)?? for editing some of the grafix present in the game?? Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
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Subject Author Message Date ID RE: someone knows how to convert a ... Captain Bazza Jan-01-02 1 RE: someone knows how to convert a ... Stew Jan-02-02 2 RE: someone knows how to convert a ... train911 Jan-02-02 3 RE: someone knows how to convert a ... FozzyBear Jan-02-02 4 RE: someone knows how to convert a ... Captain Bazza Jan-04-02 5 RE: someone knows how to convert a ... Captain Bazza Jan-04-02 6 RE: someone knows how to convert a ... gippone Jan-04-02 7 RE: someone knows how to convert a ... JoeDiamond Jan-04-02 8 RE: someone knows how to convert a ... stuartl Jan-05-02 9 RE: someone knows how to convert a ... chrisell Jan-08-02 10 RE: someone knows how to convert a ... clashley Jan-08-02 11 RE: someone knows how to convert a ... Captain Bazza Jan-08-02 12

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Captain Bazza (234 posts)
Jan-01-02, 10:56 PM (EST) 1. "RE: someone knows how to convert a .s (shape) MSTS file in 3ds (3dstudio)??" This is not possible.Don't let the computer WIN! Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Stew (67 posts)
Jan-02-02, 00:45 AM (EST) 2. "RE: someone knows how to convert a .s (shape) MSTS file in 3ds (3dstudio)??" Anything is possible... it's already been done. Do a search of the forums and you'll find a post stating that an import script had been developed. The method of doing it though will likely remain in the possesion of those who have managed to write a script or converter that will do it. There's a fear if such a thing became openly available there would be rampant plagarism. Personally I would like to have something like this to fix the default MSTS models without having to rebuild them from scratch.
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train911 (158 posts)
Jan-02-02, 06:42 AM (EST) 3. "RE: someone knows how to convert a .s (shape) MSTS file in 3ds (3dstudio)??" you won´t be able to get the .s files in 3ds if they are binary (ffedit). Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
FozzyBear (335 posts)
Jan-02-02, 10:14 PM (EST) 4. "RE: someone knows how to convert a .s (shape) MSTS file in 3ds (3dstudio)??" >someone knows how to convert a
>.s (shape) MSTS file, in
>3ds (3dstudio)?? for editing some
>of the grafix present in
>the game?? You don't need the .s file to edit graphics!! the graphics are stored in the .ace files.....The only reason for wanting to get at the .s file which is a shape file is to alter the model! and in general designers don't want you fiddling with their models.If a designer wants you to have access to his model then he'll release the 3DS file. But it's rare for that to happen! In short the answer is you can't do it! and nobody is going to release a util which will allow you to. The util mentioned in another post answer to this is not and will never be made available to you.Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)
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Captain Bazza (234 posts)
Jan-04-02, 04:41 AM (EST) 5. "RE: someone knows how to convert a .s (shape) MSTS file in 3ds (3dstudio)??" .......ahhhh, but on the other hand, never say never Don't let the computer WIN! Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Captain Bazza (234 posts)
Jan-04-02, 04:44 AM (EST) 6. "RE: someone knows how to convert a .s (shape) MSTS file in 3ds (3dstudio)??" I agree with Fozzy, you can get very possessive of your model in mesh form However, the other side of the coin is that often people can learn from dissecting another person's work. That's okay so long as it doesn't leave their computer (without permission of course.)Don't let the computer WIN! Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
gippone (7 posts)
Jan-04-02, 07:29 AM (EST) 7. "RE: someone knows how to convert a .s (shape) MSTS file in 3ds (3dstudio)??" I only want to modify some gantries from a route, to do them better and more precise still going on low-poly (and optimize the mesh) Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
JoeDiamond (157 posts)
Jan-04-02, 03:02 PM (EST) 8. "RE: someone knows how to convert a .s (shape) MSTS file in 3ds (3dstudio)??" >However, the other side of the
>coin is that often people
>can learn from dissecting another
>person's work. That's okay so
>long as it doesn't leave
>their computer (without permission of
>course.) If this is the case then you would have gotten the .3ds file from the author with his permission. A utilty to reverse-engineer the .s file would not be necessary.Conn Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
stuartl (13 posts)
Jan-05-02, 05:41 PM (EST) 9. "RE: someone knows how to convert a .s (shape) MSTS file in 3ds (3dstudio)??" It is possible to edit the .s file Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
chrisell (219 posts)
Jan-08-02, 05:07 PM (EST) 10. "RE: someone knows how to convert a .s (shape) MSTS file in 3ds (3dstudio)??" Lets just say that if this ever does become a publicly available piece of software - to convert .s files back to .3ds, I'll be the first to withdraw all my models. I suspect most other authors will do the same, then we can live with the shite that MS gave us.
To be able to reverse-engineer the .s file will kill off the ability of the author to prove ownership of the model. If that happens, the market will be flooded with crap re-conversions. I don't want any part of that and I doubt anyone else does either.................
Chris Longhurst. Read the mini FAQ at: http://www.christrains.com/
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clashley (183 posts)
Jan-08-02, 09:00 PM (EST) 11. "RE: someone knows how to convert a .s (shape) MSTS file in 3ds (3dstudio)??" I agreee with Chris. In fact, I'm not overjoyed about the ability to reverse-engineer the .ace files, since it creates the risk that someone can apply new textures to one of my models and then pass it off as their own. It's far more difficult to build a model from scratch, texture map it properly, and perform all the necessary engine file editing, than it is from someone to simply open an existing, already-textured shape file and make a few minor modifications. This is what sets the community of 3D modelers apart from the repainters.If there is an aftermarket model that you would like to see edited, your best bet is to send a politely-worded email to the author of that model, and see if they would be willing to provide you with either a .3ds file (sort of unlikely), or a modified .s file (more likely). I've found that most of the 3D modelers in the MSTS community are a reasonable bunch...All of that being said, the MS/Kuju models are crap, anyway. They are, for the most part, out-of-scale, and not textured particularly well. I looked at the dash9.3ds file that is in the sample folder, and I wouldn't even want to try to fix it...Just my two cents on the topic.Cameron Lashley Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Captain Bazza (234 posts)
Jan-08-02, 10:55 PM (EST) 12. "RE: someone knows how to convert a .s (shape) MSTS file in 3ds (3dstudio)??" Hey guys, don't get too carried away kicking Kuju's butt, at least they gave us a starting point to improve upon.

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