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JensChris (21 posts)
Dec-26-01, 09:32 AM (EST) "Working on an E-8A..." Hi there,I'm back, yeahh ! I'm about to finish that Loco.
I've only to add some details, etc.
Many details have been deleted because of the Polygon-Limit of 3000. *grumble*Now I have to connect Chris Lee for the .eng file.
Does anyone know his E-mail-Address ??Thanks for helping me !!Merry Christmas to everyone !!!!Jens-ChrisP.S.: Perhaps I'll do the UP scheme, too... Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
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Subject Author Message Date ID RE: Working on an E-8A... Splatter Dec-26-01 1 RE: Working on an E-8A... cjmaclean Dec-26-01 2 RE: Working on an E-8A... CPR_Malice_96th Dec-26-01 3 RE: Working on an E-8A... nw_fan Dec-26-01 4 RE: Working on an E-8A... henry3 Dec-26-01 7 RE: Working on an E-8A... Mark_Blum Dec-26-01 15 RE: Working on an E-8A... DKlemm Dec-26-01 19 RE: Working on an E-8A... HAC Dec-27-01 24 RE: Working on an E-8A... Verne Dec-26-01 5 RE: Working on an E-8A... Andriej Dec-26-01 6 RE: Working on an E-8A... leesome1226 Dec-26-01 8 RE: Working on an E-8A... GTJD Dec-26-01 9 RE: Working on an E-8A... JensChris Dec-26-01 10 RE: Working on an E-8A... CSX_CW60AC_GregMarck Dec-26-01 11 RE: Working on an E-8A... TOPDOG5184 Dec-26-01 12 RE: Working on an E-8A... leesome1226 Dec-26-01 13 RE: Working on an E-8A... TOPDOG5184 Dec-26-01 14 RE: Working on an E-8A... beadyboy Dec-26-01 17 RE: Working on an E-8A... JensChris Dec-27-01 21 RE: Working on an E-8A... evildarkcow Dec-27-01 22 RE: Working on an E-8A... JensChris Dec-27-01 23 RE: Working on an E-8A... beadyboy Dec-26-01 16 RE: Working on an E-8A... evildarkcow Dec-26-01 18 RE: Working on an E-8A... Bram Dec-27-01 20 RE: Working on an E-8A... Splatter Dec-27-01 25

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Splatter (100 posts)
Dec-26-01, 09:54 AM (EST) 1. "RE: Working on an E-8A..." All I can say is WOW !!!!! That is one stunning job you've done Freddie A. Huff
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cjmaclean (659 posts)
Dec-26-01, 10:00 AM (EST) 2. "RE: Working on an E-8A..." Nice! Hope to see them in EL colours soon!D.M.
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CPR_Malice_96th (381 posts)
Dec-26-01, 10:16 AM (EST) 3. "RE: Working on an E-8A..." WOW,Will look real nice in VIA Rail colours.Tim Kent
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nw_fan (151 posts)
Dec-26-01, 11:14 AM (EST) 4. "RE: Working on an E-8A..." Do a search of posts from last several days using his name. Search under loco design forum. Just click on the little envelope at the top of any post to email the person who posted.
BTW, while your at it, would you mind releasing the engine without the winterization hatches. I understand they can be "transparencied"-out but it causes strange effects sometimes. Also, the 3000 poly limit sounds a little low. What exactly are you refering to? Most of us have reltively good computers that can handle more, and most of the locos out there do have more. Do you realize you can have more than one object under the MAIN frame? And each object can have up to 3000 polys per object (I've even heard 6000)? For instance the horn can be dragged into the MAIN frame as a separate object as well as the headlight, etc...-MAIN
engine
horn
headlight
-BOGIES1
-WHEELS1
-WHEELS2for exampleMike
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henry3 (393 posts)
Dec-26-01, 12:04 PM (EST) 7. "RE: Working on an E-8A..." Were there any E8/E9s without those "winterization" hatches? I can't recall ever seeing any and that includes even roads like Mopac and MKT, which certainly didn't have tough winters. I'm not sure those hatches were optional as even rebuilt E8/E9s retained them (Amtrak, Alaska)Regardless, that's one fine looking model and I can wait to have it. Congrats, Jens-Chris!One nice addition that I can think of would be the roof-mounted air tanks that Southern's E8s carried. They were very distinctive and I think Southern's E8 were some of the last Es operation for their original owner in the intended service.Henry Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Mark_Blum (9 posts)
Dec-26-01, 08:00 PM (EST) 15. "RE: Working on an E-8A..." Those Southern Crescent E's with tanks were the last to run in the Amtrack era - I was lucky enough to take a few trips before they retired to the barn - There's one on display just north of Atlanta............and I have pictures if needed.Great job - I hope someone skins the last passenger train to roll with those "double E's" (Actually they ran with three E units most of the time).Keep up the great work.Mark
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DKlemm (864 posts)
Dec-26-01, 11:22 PM (EST) 19. "RE: Working on an E-8A..." Henry;I don't think the IC E8's had the winterzation hatch. I'm on the road so I don't have access to my photos.David Klemm
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HAC (378 posts)
Dec-27-01, 09:38 AM (EST) 24. "RE: Working on an E-8A..." yeah.. but I'll be doing vintage CP for sure.. we didn't run may of them, but they were pretty in tuscan and grey..
Now all we need is those passenger cars <G>cheers
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Verne (82 posts)
Dec-26-01, 11:15 AM (EST) 5. "RE: Working on an E-8A..." Chris usually visits this forum often, but you can also get him on the Train Artisan forum at:http://pub21.ezboard.com/btrainartisanbackshoptalk-Verne
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Andriej (1 posts)
Dec-26-01, 11:19 AM (EST) 6. "RE: Working on an E-8A..." Plz don't delate details!!! Do your best and prepare model with all details you can do (more than 3000 polys). When you finish plz send us this beautifull loco. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
leesome1226 (417 posts)
Dec-26-01, 01:04 PM (EST) 8. "RE: Working on an E-8A..." Yup, I am around. Looking great Jens, can't wait to get my beta testing hands on it.
BTW you have mail,Chris
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GTJD (36 posts)
Dec-26-01, 01:45 PM (EST) 9. "RE: Working on an E-8A..." HOLY COW! IT MIGHT BE! IT COULD BE! IT IS! A UNDER 3000 POLY LOCO! HOOOOOOOOOOLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE COOOOOOOOOOOOW!8>0Uncle "Harry Carrey" Charlie Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
JensChris (21 posts)
Dec-26-01, 02:44 PM (EST) 10. "RE: Working on an E-8A..." Hi there !Now some details are added.BTW, I'm one of these guys, who use TS Modeler.
In TSM there are only the half count of polygons of the .s file.So that Loco has in TSM about 3000 Polys and in MSTS about 6500.The "winterization hatches" seem to be "air hoses". Jens-ChrisChris Lee is working on it... Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
CSX_CW60AC_GregMarck (85 posts)
Dec-26-01, 04:32 PM (EST) 11. "RE: Working on an E-8A..." I dont know about SF, but me and my dad just got 2 pairs of E8s, to run with our passenger trains, and I according to the models, their are 2 horns, facing dif directions, the conductor side has a horn facing forwards, and engineer facing backwards. I think, if I'm wrong please correct me. And this is REALLY GOOD, and I just wanted to suggest that. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
TOPDOG5184 (368 posts)
Dec-26-01, 04:45 PM (EST) 12. "RE: Working on an E-8A..." What a beautiful loco. I, being 17, have never seen an actual E8 only HO,etc. gauge ones. so this will be my first chance to not only "see" one "upclose" but to actually "drive" one.lol. keep up the excellent work. hope Chris Lee can handle her!! lol Craig Shortino Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
leesome1226 (417 posts)
Dec-26-01, 04:57 PM (EST) 13. "RE: Working on an E-8A..." Handling is a problem, shes a big girl.However, I just finished. I am sending the file back to Jens right now,Chris
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TOPDOG5184 (368 posts)
Dec-26-01, 06:29 PM (EST) 14. "RE: Working on an E-8A..." LAST EDITED ON Dec-26-01 AT 06:32 PM (EST)Hi Chris. In terms of women as trains " the bigger the better" but as for actual women women that may not be so true.LMAO!!!! Craig Shortino Likes slender women. But when it comes to Ladys of the rails, the BIGGER the BETTER!!!!!! Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
beadyboy (86 posts)
Dec-26-01, 08:05 PM (EST) 17. "RE: Working on an E-8A..." I totally agree with your policy Craig. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
JensChris (21 posts)
Dec-27-01, 03:41 AM (EST) 21. "RE: Working on an E-8A..." Hi !Excuse me, but I'm only 15 years old and from Germany.
I've never seen such locos in real. We have a model railroad "N", but no E-8's (yet) (daddy : "hint") I made them only from pics, which I downloaded from the I-net.
I don'T know about winterization hatches, in what direction horns are fixed, etc.
Most terms I don't know, so it's hard for me to understand what you mean with adding some "roof mounted air tanks".
Perhaps you can send me a pic and draw a arrow on it, that I can see what you mean.BTW, I needed 24 hours to make the highly detailed loco, which had 47000 (!) Polygons and MSTS wouldn't accept that. *grumble*
Then I needed 10 hours to de-detail, so that the loco got now 6500 Polygons. For the texturing I needed 2 hours.I had a Super Bogie !! With 3500 Polygons, it was really really good. It was structured like an real E-8 bogie.
I still have the part on my comp, if somebody wants it, contact me.What's the meaning of LMAO ??
I only know ROFL and LOL !I'm working on the B- Unit...Jens-Chris Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
evildarkcow (369 posts)
Dec-27-01, 03:48 AM (EST) 22. "RE: Working on an E-8A..." I've never seen any of the locomotives I've done in real life, didn't stop me from making them as close to the real thing as I could just had to research the locomotive more and find more info on them. Here is some pictures of the E8 SantaFe you have done here

these pictures are found at http://www.dnaco.net/~gelwood/ so check that place out later on also when you want to model future locomotives and such.
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JensChris (21 posts)
Dec-27-01, 03:53 AM (EST) 23. "RE: Working on an E-8A..." Do you have any pics of B-Units as well ??
Would be nice from you posting the link...Thanks !Jens-Chris Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
beadyboy (86 posts)
Dec-26-01, 08:04 PM (EST) 16. "RE: Working on an E-8A..." Fantastic Job!! I'm also having the poly limit problem. I've built a loco and deleted all unseen polys so I'm now down to a total of 3500, however after conversion, TSM reports over 7200 and MSTS will not accept.I am strongly starting to support the idea MSTS is not capable of supporting a largely detailed loco. Mine now has "23" sub sections linked to main and it will only load if I delete large portions of the body to bring the final poly count under or around 6000. There goes the idea of having separate parts too.There's still a bit more detailing to go yet so I don't like my chances. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
evildarkcow (369 posts)
Dec-26-01, 11:13 PM (EST) 18. "RE: Working on an E-8A..." I haven't had any problems with polygon limits? the E9 I did has got up to around 7-8 thousand polygons and imports fine into the game and runs. To bad you guys are having those problems, sorry to hear it, or read rather.
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Bram (5 posts)
Dec-27-01, 01:46 AM (EST) 20. "RE: Working on an E-8A..." Hey, this is great! It looks fantastic and the detail makes it look very realistic. Seeing examples like this is what made me buy TSM - excellent results can be achieved (with a lot of work!)BTW, how many hours would you have put into this one?
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Splatter (100 posts)
Dec-27-01, 01:51 PM (EST) 25. "RE: Working on an E-8A..." Let me just say she is one beautiful lady indeed.I've had the pleasure of testing her and it's been a blast.Here's a few pics of her on the Central Wisconsin route.


Freddie A. Huff
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