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darkfyre (26 posts)
Feb-05-02, 10:24 PM (EST) "MSTS 2 = proper scale?" Look at the pic..that's a Kiha, one of the smaller locos in the train sim..now look at that little red vehicle beside it. You could fit an automobile in each seat of the Kiha's passenger cars! Talk about carpooling! Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
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Subject Author Message Date ID RE: MSTS 2 = proper scale? georgi55 Feb-05-02 1 RE: MSTS 2 = proper scale? TAfan Feb-05-02 2 RE: MSTS 2 = proper scale? FozzyBear Feb-06-02 3 RE: MSTS 2 = proper scale? rcp27 Feb-06-02 4 RE: MSTS 2 = proper scale? GTJD Feb-06-02 5 RE: MSTS 2 = proper scale? TAfan Feb-06-02 6

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georgi55 (549 posts)
Feb-05-02, 11:05 PM (EST) 1. "RE: MSTS 2 = proper scale?" Yes, the scale in MSTS is boolshit.
Kuju also messed up on Tokyo-Hakone route.
They measured distance in Miles when Planning, but used them as Meter when building the route.
That's why distance is so short between stations. If you multyply the distance by 1.6, you get real distance between stations. How STUPID.
And if you realize, later in the route, station's distance ios greater and that's because KUJU realized that they made mistake.
HOW STUPID GOD DAMN IT.
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TAfan (234 posts)
Feb-05-02, 11:14 PM (EST) 2. "RE: MSTS 2 = proper scale?" >They measured distance in Miles when
>Planning, but used them as
>Meter when building the route. I'm amazed to hear that - makes a mockery of Kuju's design team Also, as I understand it, MSTS uses the same guage to represent many different sizes of train, and uses the scenery to create an illusion of scale... is that right? I mean, a Dash 9 shouldn't fit through the tunnels on the European or Japanese routes, but it does! The scales cannot be the same, because a Dash 9 should dwarf a Sries 7000 (shouldn't it?!!), and it simply doesn't!That would explain the cars being the wrong size - the cars are modelled for the American scale, and as a result look far too small when used in relation to a Japanese train... doesn't it?! <confused!> Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
FozzyBear (458 posts)
Feb-06-02, 00:57 AM (EST) 3. "RE: MSTS 2 = proper scale?" >That would explain the cars being the wrong size - the cars are modelled for the American scale, and as a result look far too small when used in relation to a Japanese train... doesn't it?! <confused!>Yeah! Your not wrong about any of that! It seems they created a system that was capable of taking everything at exactly 1:1 ratio and then just ignored it and build pretty models from photo's istead of acurate 1:1 drawings. They got a hell of a lot wrong with them. There's no excuse for it. Flying Scotsman is a total joke. Given the amount of access they were granted to it it should have been exactly right!! Truth is they just spent the time with it on train playing freebee!! Best Regards,
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rcp27 (18 posts)
Feb-06-02, 05:57 AM (EST) 4. "RE: MSTS 2 = proper scale?" Part of the reason for this is that they couldn't be bothered to make track at different gauges. As the majority of the railways in Japan are at 3'6" rather than the more common 4'8.5­­". In order to keep them looking right, they scaled the trains up. This goes horribly wrong when you then attempt to mix the Japanese stuff with the western stuff. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
GTJD (73 posts)
Feb-06-02, 11:36 AM (EST) 5. "RE: MSTS 2 = proper scale?" Dude! Is that red car a R34 Skyline GTR?!Uncle Charlie,
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TAfan (234 posts)
Feb-06-02, 01:42 PM (EST) 6. "RE: MSTS 2 = proper scale?" It most definitely is not Too many doors, and where's that huge rear wing?! Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

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