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Euston (726 posts)
Jan-12-02, 11:21 AM (EST) "Are TA breaching the Human Rights act?" Keeping us in suspense for all this time about their new engine -feels like torture to me, which is illegal I believe. Praying for something big, very big - with many wheels, perhaps 2-8-8-2 ???
Euston

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Subject Author Message Date ID RE: Are TA breaching the Human Righ... leesome1226 Jan-12-02 1 RE: Are TA breaching the Human Righ... Euston Jan-12-02 2 RE: Are TA breaching the Human Righ... ctillier Jan-12-02 3 RE: Are TA breaching the Human Righ... ace6879 Jan-12-02 4 RE: Are TA breaching the Human Righ... michigandon Jan-12-02 5 RE: Are TA breaching the Human Righ... leesome1226 Jan-12-02 6 RE: Are TA breaching the Human Righ... CSX_CW60AC_GregMarck Jan-12-02 7 RE: Are TA breaching the Human Righ... cjmaclean Jan-12-02 8 RE: Are TA breaching the Human Righ... leesome1226 Jan-12-02 9 RE: Are TA breaching the Human Righ... CPrailman Jan-12-02 10 RE: Are TA breaching the Human Righ... nw_fan Jan-12-02 11 RE: Are TA breaching the Human Righ... TAfan Jan-12-02 12 RE: Are TA breaching the Human Righ... TrainTrak5000 Jan-12-02 13 RE: Are TA breaching the Human Righ... Kuchinator Jan-12-02 14 RE: Are TA breaching the Human Righ... leesome1226 Jan-12-02 15 RE: Are TA breaching the Human Righ... SouNW Jan-12-02 16 RE: Are TA breaching the Human Righ... leesome1226 Jan-12-02 17 RE: Are TA breaching the Human Righ... Kuchinator Jan-12-02 18 RE: Are TA breaching the Human Righ... cjmaclean Jan-13-02 19 RE: Are TA breaching the Human Righ... Hack Jan-13-02 20 RE: Are TA breaching the Human Righ... leesome1226 Jan-13-02 24 RE: Are TA breaching the Human Righ... Hack Jan-13-02 32 RE: Are TA breaching the Human Righ... Euston Jan-13-02 21 RE: Are TA breaching the Human Righ... fwbryan Jan-13-02 22 RE: Are TA breaching the Human Righ... leesome1226 Jan-13-02 23 RE: Are TA breaching the Human Righ... Euston Jan-13-02 25 RE: Are TA breaching the Human Righ... NickF Jan-13-02 26 RE: Are TA breaching the Human Righ... SD40T_2 Jan-13-02 27 RE: Are TA breaching the Human Righ... rockisland Jan-13-02 28 RE: Are TA breaching the Human Righ... leesome1226 Jan-13-02 29 RE: Are TA breaching the Human Righ... ace6879 Jan-13-02 30 RE: Are TA breaching the Human Righ... TrainTrak5000 Jan-13-02 31 RE: Are TA breaching the Human Righ... leesome1226 Jan-13-02 33 RE: Are TA breaching the Human Righ... TAfan Jan-13-02 34 RE: Are TA breaching the Human Righ... leesome1226 Jan-13-02 35 RE: Are TA breaching the Human Righ... TAfan Jan-13-02 36 RE: Are TA breaching the Human Righ... leesome1226 Jan-13-02 37 RE: Are TA breaching the Human Righ... TAfan Jan-13-02 38 RE: Are TA breaching the Human Righ... leesome1226 Jan-13-02 40 RE: Are TA breaching the Human Righ... TAfan Jan-13-02 41 RE: Are TA breaching the Human Righ... easagrippa Jan-13-02 39 RE: Are TA breaching the Human Righ... MTRailLinkFan Jan-13-02 42

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leesome1226 (475 posts)
Jan-12-02, 11:23 AM (EST) 1. "RE: Are TA breaching the Human Rights act?" There are a couple of Big locos we are working on, one really big loco(famous) and another classic excursion loco, now thats the biggest hint you have gotten yet so hopefully you will be able to make something from it.Lots of news on Monday!!
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Euston (726 posts)
Jan-12-02, 11:31 AM (EST) 2. "RE: Are TA breaching the Human Rights act?" Sorry, need more clues.How about a picture, but chopped up into little pieces, or a picture of a small part of the loco so we can guess what it is?Odds are I won't know what it is anyway - but that hasn't stopped me with any other US loco.More Steam = more funEuston

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ctillier (102 posts)
Jan-12-02, 11:42 AM (EST) 3. "RE: Are TA breaching the Human Rights act?" Ooooh time to place your bets...My guesses:
UP Big Boy (or Challenger)
with a side of
N&W Class J (or SP GS-9 Daylight or UP FEF-3)--
Clem

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ace6879 (580 posts)
Jan-12-02, 12:12 PM (EST) 4. "RE: Are TA breaching the Human Rights act?" Hi Chris, We are both members of the same group, so I think I know what one of them is, and if so I AM SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Happy!!! Kelley

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michigandon (394 posts)
Jan-12-02, 12:24 PM (EST) 5. "RE: Are TA breaching the Human Rights act?" Well gang, rest assured that whatever it is, it will definitely be worth downloading and having around on your hard drive!Don Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
leesome1226 (475 posts)
Jan-12-02, 12:46 PM (EST) 6. "RE: Are TA breaching the Human Rights act?" What do you mean members of the same groups?And I think you will be happy with what we are doing
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CSX_CW60AC_GregMarck (126 posts)
Jan-12-02, 01:03 PM (EST) 7. "RE: Are TA breaching the Human Rights act?" I but my bet on an Allegany, something(one) is telling me this.Greg Marck

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cjmaclean (738 posts)
Jan-12-02, 01:07 PM (EST) 8. "RE: Are TA breaching the Human Rights act?" > Keeping us in suspense for all this time about their new engine -feels like torture to me, which is illegal I believe. Feels more like Hitchcock, don't you think? *ROFL*But I do join you in your prayers!
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leesome1226 (475 posts)
Jan-12-02, 01:15 PM (EST) 9. "RE: Are TA breaching the Human Rights act?" Hopefully the waiting won't be much longer Chris Lee
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CPrailman (311 posts)
Jan-12-02, 05:37 PM (EST) 10. "RE: Are TA breaching the Human Rights act?" Haha Chris, always the negotiator from making us go MAD!
Well i certainly hope this one will be nice! Daylight I WOULD LOVE AND BIG-BOY would make my day
Thanks,
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nw_fan (186 posts)
Jan-12-02, 05:44 PM (EST) 11. "RE: Are TA breaching the Human Rights act?" You guys are worried about your servers, aren't you?
Well you should be... I have a feeling it's gonna get mighty ugly trying to get into the TrainArtisan website when they put this stuff up! Doesn't matter, I'll just keep trying... and trying... and trying! I notice the website returns a "busy signal" pretty often right now. I'm guessing everyone else is checking everyday, just like me! Says a lot about your work, guys. Thanks.Mike
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TAfan (184 posts)
Jan-12-02, 05:54 PM (EST) 12. "RE: Are TA breaching the Human Rights act?" Very true - I've been checking every day, and every day it usually returns Error #403 code: too many users connected. It certainly shows an amazing level of anticipation by the TrainSim community!Anyway, depending upon the nature of this deal with a RR company that they mentioned, it might extend as far as providing more access to their website, and their own dedicated fast servers (fast for those lucky people to have DSL/cable!). Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
TrainTrak5000 (193 posts)
Jan-12-02, 09:30 PM (EST) 13. "RE: Are TA breaching the Human Rights act?" LAST EDITED ON Jan-12-02 AT 09:31 PM (EST)I believe I've got it all figured out!I bet "The Major Railroad" is the Union Pacific.
I bet the one really big loco is the Challenger.
I bet the classic excursion loco is the 844.
And I bet that it was Colonel Mustard in the Kitchen with the Rope.So, Chris, have you guys been talking to their head honcho Steve Lee all this time getting information?Mike Karlik
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Kuchinator (491 posts)
Jan-12-02, 09:36 PM (EST) 14. "RE: Are TA breaching the Human Rights act?" have you all seen those via dome cars they are doing? they got pics of them including an interior shot that looks incredibly real. i even did a 2 page paper on train artisans empire state express for one of my graphic design classes. i think the quality of their work is worth the suspense and human rights violation.
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leesome1226 (475 posts)
Jan-12-02, 09:43 PM (EST) 15. "RE: Are TA breaching the Human Rights act?" Alright, getting papers done one us.Could you send that over, maybe we could put it up on the site!!Chris Lee
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SouNW (8 posts)
Jan-12-02, 10:16 PM (EST) 16. "RE: Are TA breaching the Human Rights act?" My hunch is that it's a Union Pacific Big Boy and an SP Daylight GS4.The railroad could be Union Pacific, but I hope its Norfolk Southern.The wait sure is torture, but I'm sure it's worth it. Oh, I can't wait for the Super Chief and the dome car, I sure hope its soon. -- Chris -- Btw, I do hope the excursion locomotive is a N&W Class J. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
leesome1226 (475 posts)
Jan-12-02, 10:29 PM (EST) 17. "RE: Are TA breaching the Human Rights act?" I'll give you another clue,The locomotive has run in the past 4 years on major main line trips. That should narrow it down some, remember that is the excursion loco. The other one could still be one of your guess's I don't know if the idenity of the loco will be released this week, however the major RR company will be released.Chris Lee
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Kuchinator (491 posts)
Jan-12-02, 11:59 PM (EST) 18. "RE: Are TA breaching the Human Rights act?" LAST EDITED ON Jan-13-02 AT 00:06 AM (EST)as soon as my paper is finnished being graded and all that i could send a copy of it over. also im pretty sure its a BIG BOY, since big boy is an alco and their last 2 steamers, the j3 and the mountain are also made by alco. does anyone see a pattern here? but then again i may be wrong. i guess we will have to wait and see because they are not talking!
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cjmaclean (738 posts)
Jan-13-02, 04:01 AM (EST) 19. "RE: Are TA breaching the Human Rights act?" AFAIK there is no Big Boy that is being run as an excursion loco, while UP still has a Challenger that is...Not that I would complain a bit if it were "only" a Challenger! D.M."Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges" Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Hack (566 posts)
Jan-13-02, 04:10 AM (EST) 20. "RE: Are TA breaching the Human Rights act?" My guess is that it's the Challenger, and the major RR company is a model one...Perhaps Athern, Life Like, et al? ;o)Cheers!
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leesome1226 (475 posts)
Jan-13-02, 11:24 AM (EST) 24. "RE: Are TA breaching the Human Rights act?" Say Marc,Did you get the email that I sent you last night?
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Hack (566 posts)
Jan-13-02, 05:47 PM (EST) 32. "RE: Are TA breaching the Human Rights act?" hi Chris - no email - some problems while changing servers. Please resend to l8brkr@pacbell.net - Thanks! Cheers!
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Euston (726 posts)
Jan-13-02, 05:13 AM (EST) 21. "RE: Are TA breaching the Human Rights act?" >I don't know if the idenity of the loco will be released this week NOOOOOOO!!!!I'm meeting with my lawyer on Tuesday.Euston

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fwbryan (27 posts)
Jan-13-02, 09:20 AM (EST) 22. "RE: Are TA breaching the Human Rights act?" My guess is the Frisco 1522. Think about it. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
leesome1226 (475 posts)
Jan-13-02, 09:47 AM (EST) 23. "RE: Are TA breaching the Human Rights act?" All very good guesses,But I haven't heard guesses on the mystery RR company!!keep them comingChris Lee
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Euston (726 posts)
Jan-13-02, 11:52 AM (EST) 25. "RE: Are TA breaching the Human Rights act?" Is it the Lanserat East Railroad - oh wait that's my company.Okay - how about Amtrak, or perhaps Rio Grande (do they still exist), final guess = Kansas City Southern.If I get it right, do I win a prize???
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NickF (608 posts)
Jan-13-02, 12:39 PM (EST) 26. "RE: Are TA breaching the Human Rights act?" The Rio Grande got swallowed by the Union Pacific/Southern Pacific a few years back. And we KNOW how the UP feels about MSTS.Nick Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
SD40T_2 (200 posts)
Jan-13-02, 01:40 PM (EST) 27. "RE: Are TA breaching the Human Rights act?" i'm going to guess the major RR is BNSF and one of it's locos is Santa Fe 3751 a nice 4-8-4. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
rockisland (64 posts)
Jan-13-02, 02:23 PM (EST) 28. "RE: Are TA breaching the Human Rights act?" I tend to agree with SD40, I think its the BNSF. (Think Santa Fe Chief for a reason) The excursion loco could be either the 1522 or 3751. Personally I'd love to see the 3751. Its a beautiful locomotive.ROCK
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leesome1226 (475 posts)
Jan-13-02, 02:57 PM (EST) 29. "RE: Are TA breaching the Human Rights act?" All fine guess's,They are certainly getting closer ;)Marc- please respond to my email
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ace6879 (580 posts)
Jan-13-02, 03:18 PM (EST) 30. "RE: Are TA breaching the Human Rights act?" Did everyone forget the Challenger??? 4-6-6-4. HUGE!!! or UP 844?? HUGE..BTW..the company is probably UP. since BNSF got all the fanfare the first time around!!!But it will be neat to see!!!Kelley

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TrainTrak5000 (193 posts)
Jan-13-02, 04:40 PM (EST) 31. "RE: Are TA breaching the Human Rights act?" I didn't forget! (Scroll up until you see my post.) I don't see anything about Milwaukee Road #261, or Chesapeake & Ohio #614. Too bad it can't possibly be Norfolk & Western #611, or #1218.Mike Karlik
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leesome1226 (475 posts)
Jan-13-02, 06:20 PM (EST) 33. "RE: Are TA breaching the Human Rights act?" More good guesses,I must say that the 614 along with the 261 are a pair of my favorite steam locos.
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TAfan (184 posts)
Jan-13-02, 06:45 PM (EST) 34. "RE: Are TA breaching the Human Rights act?" >BTW..the company is probably UP. since
>BNSF got all the fanfare
>the first time around!!! I thought I heard rumours when I first started reading this board (before I joined up) that UP was the initial choice for the US freight railroad, but refused to co-operate over "security" issues (thinking that anyone would de able to drive a real train after playing MSTS? What a lot of wrecks there would be if people went from playing MSTS and hijacking an idling UP engine, thinking it would handle the same ). So if it is UP, that represents a major turn-around in policy!I still think it's BNSF (spiting M$ in the process) but apart from UP, BNSF & Amtrak, what other railroads are there still in existence? (BTW, that's not a rhetorical question - I really don't know!) Does CSX still operate?Still, I'm looking forward to finding out. Not long now! Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
leesome1226 (475 posts)
Jan-13-02, 07:05 PM (EST) 35. "RE: Are TA breaching the Human Rights act?" Yes, MS initialy picked UP as the RR that would "star" in MSTS, but when they approached them to film one of their routes, it was either Techacapi or Cajon I can't remember UP turned them down in a heart beat citing the fact that it would encourage many people to steal trains. To make it worse, right before MSTS hit stores they expessed this to the TS community and very flamed big time with the great Onion Pacific deal. BNSF stepped in the back door and has been very friendly, and they have their logo everywhere while UP has nothing.CSX, does still run, in 1998 it aquired 42% of Conrail, NS aquired the other 58%. CN and CPR are the other major North American RR's.Yes, its not long now.
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TAfan (184 posts)
Jan-13-02, 07:20 PM (EST) 36. "RE: Are TA breaching the Human Rights act?" Thanks for clearing that up It still brings a grin to my face, the fact that UP are so paranoid - they thought everyone would go running out to the nearest yard looking for a nice shiny yellow lump of metal to steal! Surely there is some mechanism in place anyway to stop anyone wandering up to an idling loco and nicking it?! Don't they remove the reverser handle or something?I also wonder if RR's care much over whether their logo appears or not? After all, BNSF having their logo everywhere in MSTS will hardly have affected business (likewise for UP without their logo), will it? Unless a lot of people playing it are head honchos of big corporations that need lots of freight moving... Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
leesome1226 (475 posts)
Jan-13-02, 07:28 PM (EST) 37. "RE: Are TA breaching the Human Rights act?" Yes, enginners are supposed to remove the reversers but sometimes they don't, it would also get annoying carrying about 50 different reversers around in your grip, although most locos use the same ones.The only way that UP would ever give in to MSTS, as I see it would be if something effected their shippers. There is only one thing that RR's think in, thats Money. If something has caused a loss of business and money, they will go back after it, they want the cash.Its sad but thats the current RR mindset today!!
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TAfan (184 posts)
Jan-13-02, 08:10 PM (EST) 38. "RE: Are TA breaching the Human Rights act?" >>don't, it would also get
>annoying carrying about 50 different Well, I guess it would be a railroad variation on the theme of "is that a gun in your pocket or are you just pleased to see me?" >The only way that UP would
>ever give in to MSTS,
>as I see it would
>be if something effected their
>shippers. There is only one So it's not UP that TA has allied with... >thing that RR's think in,
>thats Money. If something has Hmm. Kinda reminds me of another big corporation... Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
leesome1226 (475 posts)
Jan-13-02, 08:18 PM (EST) 40. "RE: Are TA breaching the Human Rights act?" Your art is amazing TA fan, although it is because of MS that we are all here and talking today.I am not going to say whether it is or isn't UP, just have to wait and find out.
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TAfan (184 posts)
Jan-13-02, 08:25 PM (EST) 41. "RE: Are TA breaching the Human Rights act?" LAST EDITED ON Jan-13-02 AT 08:27 PM (EST)>Your art is amazing TA fan, Thanks for the compliment - while the (not exactly original) logos are mine, sadly that Microjunk spoof splash screen isn't! I got sent it ages & ages ago in an e-mail, so I sure hope it isn't copyrighted by some joke website! Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
easagrippa (135 posts)
Jan-13-02, 08:17 PM (EST) 39. "RE: Are TA breaching the Human Rights act?" You forgot KCS, last time I checked KCS was still around, and there is also the IC, you still see IC stuff, even though CN recently acquired them. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
MTRailLinkFan (27 posts)
Jan-13-02, 11:32 PM (EST) 42. "RE: Are TA breaching the Human Rights act?" here's my guess, it's a Malley(dunno if i spelled it right) B&O. no wait can't be B&O. oh well. What I'd look forward to would be some nice Montana Rail Link stuff for Marias. They operate in the same areas around montana and some other areas im not sure. But TrainArtistan is doing a wonderful job and they are just awsome, KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!
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