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funnelfanMember since Sep-22-03 · 113 postsSep 30, 2004 11:21 AM

I'm working on a replacement for those gawd awful "brickpile" tunnel portals that are in the game. Here is what I have so far, but I'll probably rework the textures somewhat. Any other suggestions?Ted Curphey
funnelfan@icehouse.net

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RE: A better Tunnel Portal., westerngy, Sep-30-04, 07:51 AM, (1) RE: A better Tunnel Portal., USRailFan, Sep-30-04, 08:17 AM, (2) RE: A better Tunnel Portal., henry3, Sep-30-04, 10:50 AM, (3) RE: A better Tunnel Portal., yellowdog, Sep-30-04, 11:45 AM, (4) RE: A better Tunnel Portal., funnelfan, Sep-30-04, 02:43 PM, (5) RE: A better Tunnel Portal., funnelfan, Sep-30-04, 02:54 PM, (6) RE: A better Tunnel Portal., USRailFan, Sep-30-04, 04:02 PM, (8) RE: A better Tunnel Portal., KeltikSylk, Sep-30-04, 04:01 PM, (7) RE: A better Tunnel Portal., funnelfan, Sep-30-04, 05:31 PM, (9) RE: A better Tunnel Portal., funnelfan, Oct-01-04, 02:53 AM, (10) RE: A better Tunnel Portal., SP_Frank, Oct-01-04, 08:49 PM, (11) RE: A better Tunnel Portal., dwkarch, Oct-01-04, 08:55 PM, (12) RE: A better Tunnel Portal., SP_Frank, Oct-01-04, 09:13 PM, (13) RE: A better Tunnel Portal., dwkarch, Oct-01-04, 09:43 PM, (14) RE: A better Tunnel Portal., funnelfan, Oct-01-04, 10:06 PM, (15) RE: A better Tunnel Portal., dwkarch, Oct-01-04, 10:10 PM, (16) RE: A better Tunnel Portal., funnelfan, Oct-01-04, 10:49 PM, (17) RE: A better Tunnel Portal., dwkarch, Oct-02-04, 00:18 AM, (18) RE: A better Tunnel Portal., dwkarch, Oct-03-04, 09:06 AM, (19)

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westerngyMember since Jul-18-02 · 478 postsSep 30, 2004 11:51 AM

RE: A better Tunnel Portal.

Ted one thing can the yr of the bore be removed or all tunnel portals on a route would be 1912.Just Rollin Down The Tracks
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USRailFanMember since Jun-19-04 · 233 postsSep 30, 2004 12:17 PM

RE: A better Tunnel Portal.

About both this, and also your signal bridge, will you make this so that we can use it to directly overwrite the default?

Leiv Eiriksson was first - Christoffer Columbus used a Viking map!

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henry3Charter Member · 1694 postsSep 30, 2004 2:50 PM

RE: A better Tunnel Portal.

Hi Ted!That will be a most useful addition for route builders.If there is a way to set up a series of separate textures for the date, that would be gravy.Thanks for sharing!Henry

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yellowdogCharter Member · 1787 postsSep 30, 2004 3:45 PM

RE: A better Tunnel Portal.

Are the "wings" part of the 3D model, or just part of the texture?

Clayton

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funnelfanMember since Sep-22-03 · 113 postsSep 30, 2004 6:43 PM

RE: A better Tunnel Portal.

I will probably leave the date, as I like it. The retaining wall wings to the tunnel are modeled in 3D, and extend 12' out from the tunnel face. In fact the whole hillside that you see is part of the model. The multiple texture idea is a good idea for making the hillside match various textures.Ted Curphey
funnelfan@icehouse.net

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funnelfanMember since Sep-22-03 · 113 postsSep 30, 2004 6:54 PM

RE: A better Tunnel Portal.

This view shows the 3D modeling of the Tunnel Portal betterTed Curphey
funnelfan@icehouse.net

Railfanning the Northwest
http://www.icehouse.net/funnelfan/

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USRailFanMember since Jun-19-04 · 233 postsSep 30, 2004 8:02 PM

RE: A better Tunnel Portal.

What route is it?

Leiv Eiriksson was first - Christoffer Columbus used a Viking map!

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KeltikSylkCharter Member · 1177 postsSep 30, 2004 8:01 PM

RE: A better Tunnel Portal.

I like it. Maybe if you make the date unreadable you won't have to make forty different portals Hang a weed in front of it.Frank MusickMoving America into the 19th Century!
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funnelfanMember since Sep-22-03 · 113 postsSep 30, 2004 9:31 PM

RE: A better Tunnel Portal.

I've customized the model to replace all the tunnels on the Rollins Pass line. I'll try and upload it tonight. This is a huge improvement over the exsisting tunnel.Ted Curphey
funnelfan@icehouse.net

Railfanning the Northwest
http://www.icehouse.net/funnelfan/

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funnelfanMember since Sep-22-03 · 113 postsOct 1, 2004 6:53 AM

RE: A better Tunnel Portal.

OK, I've uploaded the new tunnel portal. It's a direct replacement of all the tunnels on the Rollins Pass route, and the textures blend into the exsisting scenery.Ted Curphey
funnelfan@icehouse.net

Railfanning the Northwest
http://www.icehouse.net/funnelfan/

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SP_FrankMember since Aug-8-04 · 68 postsOct 2, 2004 12:49 AM

RE: A better Tunnel Portal.

Installed the patch . . . the first tunnel heading east from Antelope siding has 2 portals. OK, what'd I do wrong? :S

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dwkarchMember since Sep-26-03 · 248 postsOct 2, 2004 12:55 AM

RE: A better Tunnel Portal.

You did nothing wrong. I used 2 there to deal with a terrain issue.

Don
Rollins Pass/Moffat Tunnel Route

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SP_FrankMember since Aug-8-04 · 68 postsOct 2, 2004 1:13 AM

RE: A better Tunnel Portal.

Great. Been running some more and that was the only one.This is one of my favorite routes; you did an excellent job. Love those howling coyotes

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dwkarchMember since Sep-26-03 · 248 postsOct 2, 2004 1:43 AM

RE: A better Tunnel Portal.

Glad you like the route. Actually those are wolves. Since that new portal has that terrain included with it, you will have a texture mismatch at Tunnel 32 above timberline. I also noticed that with at least one portal, it's terrain sticks out in mid-air because the actual terrain sits well behind it. It also seems that, if you use this new portal, it sits too low, so you would want to raise each one, if that does not put the outer portion above ground. It also has no snow texture, so the terrain is a mismatch in snow mode. I tried it and deleted it.

Don
Rollins Pass/Moffat Tunnel Route

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funnelfanMember since Sep-22-03 · 113 postsOct 2, 2004 2:06 AM

RE: A better Tunnel Portal.

You will need to use the route editor to resolve some of the minor issues at a few locations. But for the most part the new tunnel portals work great. I'll work on making a update with snow textures.Ted Curphey
funnelfan@icehouse.net

Railfanning the Northwest
http://www.icehouse.net/funnelfan/

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dwkarchMember since Sep-26-03 · 248 postsOct 2, 2004 2:10 AM

RE: A better Tunnel Portal.

It's a fine looking tunnel.

Don
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funnelfanMember since Sep-22-03 · 113 postsOct 2, 2004 2:49 AM

RE: A better Tunnel Portal.

Thanks Don. Say do you have some pics of some of the other tunnels on this line? I'm looking for a good pic of a rock tunnel with no concrete portal. Maybe we can make a better update for the route that is more inclusive. Also some good qualitiy photos of the terrian around the tracks, particularly on the east slope could be useful.BTW, I also have a collection of photos from a ex-SP dispatcher who passed away a number of years ago. He was a operator at Plainview for the DSL from 1928 to 1933. Plenty of pics of plainview and the rainbow cut, as well as Tabernash, Denver and more. I scanned in a few of the pics, but I don't have a flatbed scanner anymore.Ted Curphey
funnelfan@icehouse.net

Railfanning the Northwest
http://www.icehouse.net/funnelfan/

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dwkarchMember since Sep-26-03 · 248 postsOct 2, 2004 4:18 AM

RE: A better Tunnel Portal.

Ted,I certainly was disappointed to have found no accurate tunnel portals for the route. I was thrilled when someone made the two Moffat Tunnel portals that I was able to get into Version 2. One great source of actual portal shots is in a cabview video that I have. Most tunnel portals appear to have been just original rock, updated with concrete or cement with dates of about 1941, and carved with tunnel numbers like "T12". Here is one link with lots of tunnel photos:http://ghostdepot.com/rg/mainline/moffat%20route/moffat%20route.htmI'll check to see what other photos I have. I would be happy to scan your pictures if you want me to. Please clarify what you have in mind with regard to "photos of the terrain around the tracks".Here is a pic, tongue in cheek of course, of the west portal of Tunnel 31 (the one with 2 portals as discussed above), as it looked last year long after caving in:

Don
Rollins Pass/Moffat Tunnel Route

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dwkarchMember since Sep-26-03 · 248 postsOct 3, 2004 1:06 PM

RE: A better Tunnel Portal.

LAST EDITED ON Oct-03-04 AT 09:09 AM (EDT)

Ted,Here are some more links that include some tunnel photos:http://www.mtnwestrail.com/gallery/ziemba-td.htm http://www.matts-place.com/trains/colorado/index.htmlBelow are 2003 photos of Tunnel 32, east portal and then west portal.

Don
Rollins Pass/Moffat Tunnel Route

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