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ssw_96Charter Member · 2575 postsSep 3, 2004 11:37 AM

To make the default Dash 9 horn. It sounds like it was made from a keyboard or something. It sounds nothing like the real thing. I know that is not actually the real horn, but I was just wondering what they did?

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HackCharter Member · 3775 postsSep 3, 2004 1:24 PM

RE: What Did Microsoft Use?

Their techniques might be suspect, but I believe all Dash-9 sounds were taken from a locomotive that MS was free to poke around on. Details of the sound recording were once posted at their MSTS site - perhaps the info's still there.Cheers!
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johninchicagoCharter Member · 607 postsSep 3, 2004 3:31 PM

RE: What Did Microsoft Use?

Yes - at one point I recall seeing something on their web site proudly proclaiming that they digitally sampled all of the sounds from the Dash 9, and all the steam sounds from the Flying Scottsman.

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Erick_CantuMember since Jun-19-04 · 287 postsSep 3, 2004 3:40 PM

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LAST EDITED ON Sep-03-04 AT 11:41 AM (EDT)

They did record off the real deal, the problem is this:If you go to the MSTS site, they have photos of them recording. The mistake they made was they opened the service doors and recorded just the engine.This makes no sense, as with the real thing you hear a lot of noises from the engine vibration and so on - you also do not hear the exhaust - meaning the sounds are very lethargic.Thankfully, the Geep sounds had enough of the residual noises (just 'dormant,' so to speak) that with some EQ, I was able to bring it all out again when I redid them. Unfortunately, I have not been able to do the same with the Dash-9, which sucks, because I wanted to re-engineer those as well.So, yeah - anyone have some decent GE recordings? What Did Microsoft Use? – image 8 "The F59PHI and Genesis are the lamest excuses for locomotives Amtrak has ever operated - accept it and move on. Hug an F40 before it's too late!"

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USRailFanMember since Jun-19-04 · 156 postsSep 3, 2004 4:26 PM

RE: What Did Microsoft Use?

Is it possible to download your GP38-2 sounds from somewhere?

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Erick_CantuMember since Jun-19-04 · 287 postsSep 3, 2004 4:40 PM

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I posted an early version in the sound design forum, I will probably release a final version soon. What Did Microsoft Use? – image 10 "The F59PHI and Genesis are the lamest excuses for locomotives Amtrak has ever operated - accept it and move on. Hug an F40 before it's too late!"

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NewEnglandRailFanMember since Jun-18-04 · 888 postsSep 3, 2004 7:10 PM

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Puhlease Erick! Release them soon! Those ones you put up for download in the sound forum are absolutly awesome -Dave

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ns_sd70mMember since Jul-20-04 · 40 postsSep 4, 2004 4:19 AM

RE: What Did Microsoft Use?

I was just wondering, what kind of horn do the "real" BNSF Dash9's have? The one in MSTS just sounds like a high-pitched jumble.

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WCLCharter Member · 241 postsSep 4, 2004 2:31 PM

RE: What Did Microsoft Use?

An American-tuned K3LA illustrating the later die cast finish. The K3H and K3L are primarily Canadian horns, but do occasionally show up on American railroads, notably on the BNSF 960-series Dash 9-44CW's. Subsequent new BNSF locomotives have come with the American-tuned K3LA.
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sniper297Charter Member · 6633 postsSep 4, 2004 5:18 PM

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I dunno about the Dash 9, but Microsoft did use a real horn to record the SD40-2 horn sound.

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ns_sd70mMember since Jul-20-04 · 40 postsSep 4, 2004 5:37 PM

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>I dunno about the Dash 9, but Microsoft did use a real horn to record >the SD40-2 horn sound.Ya, a real automobile horn!
The default SD40-2 horn sounds nothing like any train horn that I ever heard.

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sawblade5Member since Apr-17-03 · 255 postsSep 5, 2004 9:12 AM

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OK, So where can we get a fix to this problem at? Which files do you think is the best ones to download to fix these issues?

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dejohCharter Member · 204 postsSep 5, 2004 3:43 PM

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Hey Sniper, Can't mistake the Chicago bungalow in the background, nice shot. Used to live in one around 80th. and Harvard (many moons ago).Dejoh

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sniper297Charter Member · 6633 postsSep 5, 2004 6:00 PM

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Sawblade, easiest way is to use the "search" button in the file library, type in "horn", and narrow the search by selecting the "sound" section instead of searching all file sections. There are something like 30 horn replacements, off the cuff it looks like hornpack.zip or hornsv1.zip would be best for Dash 9s.Dejoh, actually you can mistake a Chicago bungalow, when it has a second floor it's not a bungalow, it's a two-flat.

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ssw_96Charter Member · 2575 postsSep 6, 2004 4:25 AM

RE: What Did Microsoft Use?

What I was getting at is that the Dash 9 horn sounds like a horn made from a keyboard. Anyone who downloads some of the horns in the library can tell that it came from an original horn, but the default dash 9 horn sounds like it was digitally created. But the gp38 horn is ok.

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