Engineer/Fireman in cab

What is required to have an engineer and fireman appear in the cab of a locomotive? some of the locomotives that are done by Marc at 3DTrains have the engineer/fireman with an option to remove them (it looks like they are alphaed out to remove them). Is it a 'freight animation' entry that is needed? If so, are two needed for both figures?

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RE: Engineer/Fireman in cab, BeaverMon, Aug-09-04, 07:17 PM, (1) RE: Engineer/Fireman in cab, timken, Aug-09-04, 07:21 PM, (2) RE: Engineer/Fireman in cab, Vulcan Foundry, Aug-09-04, 08:38 PM, (3) RE: Engineer/Fireman in cab, Hack, Aug-10-04, 03:35 AM, (7) RE: Engineer/Fireman in cab, Mark_Blum, Aug-10-04, 06:45 PM, (10) RE: Engineer/Fireman in cab, Vulcan Foundry, Aug-10-04, 08:18 PM, (11) RE: Engineer/Fireman in cab, Hack, Aug-10-04, 09:41 PM, (12) RE: Engineer/Fireman in cab, crstagg, Aug-09-04, 09:04 PM, (4) RE: Engineer/Fireman in cab, decapod, Aug-10-04, 01:16 AM, (5) RE: Engineer/Fireman in cab, sixman, Aug-10-04, 10:19 AM, (8) RE: Engineer/Fireman in cab, decapod, Aug-10-04, 10:33 AM, (9) RE: Engineer/Fireman in cab, Hack, Aug-10-04, 03:29 AM, (6)

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As someone said. Payware folks try to not tell secrets to Freeware folks.-BeaverMon, AKA Ben-

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If you are into fine steam locomotives, check out Jon Davis' engines in the file library. Most of the more recent ones have engineer and fireman in the cab.

Steve T.

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LAST EDITED ON Aug-09-04 AT 08:41 PM (EST)

Exactly. Try and ask them a direct question and watch them ignore you.
You could try and make your own figures and then add to any engine via a freight animation tag in the eng file as an option.

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Hmmm...Ask anyone here, and you may find that I'm pretty open about what I do and how I go about things. I don't tell all, but I'm more than willing to give helpful hints, shortcuts, and assist in most situations.Half the fun is sharing what I know - the other half is keeping secret what I know. Cheers!
Marc - 3DTrains
http://www.3dtrains.comPro Series SuperPacks

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I knew this post would show up before too long. I've learned a great deal from 3DTrains in this forum (and on their forum)! That whole peice about passenger car SDK's on their website was pretty generous too.And another payware vendor, Maple Leaf Tracks, just gave the forum a solution to signal visibility. I think the payware folks are huge contributors to the knowledge base in this hobby - and I think they're quite generous with their knowledge. Just another opinion to chew on.Mark
A Southern Railway Fan

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LAST EDITED ON Aug-10-04 AT 08:25 PM (EST)

>Hmmm...Ask anyone here, and you may find that I'm pretty
>open about what I do and how I go about things. I don't tell
>all, but I'm more than willing to give helpful hints,
>shortcuts, and assist in most situations.
>
>Half the fun is sharing what I know - the other half is
>keeping secret what I know.
>
>Cheers!
>Marc - 3DTrains
>http://www.3dtrains.com
>
>
>
>Pro Series SuperPacks Yes I should have qualified that a bit better shouldn't I. I wasn't aiming the comment at you at all Marc as you are very helpful and informative at all times. Just because I had a bad experience with one payware vendor doesn't mean they're all the same, I was just venting....

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No worries. Cheers!
Marc - 3DTrains
http://www.3dtrains.comPro Series SuperPacks

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3dTrains does it with ACE files that are referenced from the Shape files.

Charles

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They are freight animations.
Only one is allowed per ENG file, so the two figures are a singe model.I have produced several double crew sets for my UK and Australian locos (and a set of guards as freight animations for the caboose)With a few adjustments in the positions, using the shape file manager, you can make them fit most steam models. Anyone is free to make use of these models - over at UK trainsim, they are available as sets for many of the locos.
see the downloads section in the second link in my sig.

Paul
UK GWR Highworth Branch - http://www.highworth.freeuk.com
Other Projects - http://www31.brinkster.com/decapod

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PaulDo you have any crew that would be appropriate to use with diesels, eithe early car body or early hood types?

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Unfortunately not at the moment.I've been asked several times about this in the UK too
- we just need a single seated figure, can't be too hard to do. I'll get around to doing one at some point.The freightanim technique doesn't always work with diseasels, particularly if TSM was used to build it, the alpha channels can obscure the drivers shape.

Paul
UK GWR Highworth Branch - http://www.highworth.freeuk.com
Other Projects - http://www31.brinkster.com/decapod

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Mine are added directly to the model, and as others have noted, they are removed/added via alpha channels in their respective textures. And as Paul stated, he's got a set of crew figures (in various configs and poses) that you should be able to add quite easily to just about any locomotive you desire. Cheers!
Marc - 3DTrains
http://www.3dtrains.comPro Series SuperPacks

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