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...a continuing review of railroad operating rules applicable to MSTS, in the interests of more realistic operation of the simulator. From the BNSF Air Brake and Train Handling Rules for engineers (comment: note that all scenarios start with the train stopped with the air brake and indepedent brakes (engine brakes) applied).Rule 103.12.A - Starting:A. Starting, Level Grade
When starting the train on a level grade:
1. Release the automatic brake.
2. After the brakes have been released on the entire train (comment: BP=90 for freight) move the throttle to RUN 1 and release the independent brake.
a) If the lcomotive moves too rapidly in RUN 1 control surge with the independent brake.
b) If locomotive does not move, slowly advance the throttle.
3. Use the lowest possible throttle position to minimize in-train forces. Note: If the train does not move in RUN 4, return the throttle in IDLE, apply the indepedent brake, and determine the cause. (comment: not always possible to move in RUN 4 in MSTS)
4. After the train starts to move, check to see if the amperage or tractive effort levels are decreasing (comment: tractive effort levels are displayed in AC locomotives instead of amps, not simulated in MSTS).
5. If these levels are decreasing, you may advance the throttle to the next higher position.B. Starting, Ascending Grade
When starting the train on an ascending grade:
1. Advance the throttle to RUN 1, reduce the independent brake and release the automatic brake.
2. As the brakes release toward the rear of the train (comment: BP approaching 90 for freight), advance the throttle to RUN 2 or higher to start the train moving.
3. Slowly reduce the independent brake until it is fully released.
4. After the train starts to move, check to see that amperage or tractive effort are decreasing.
5. Observe the load meter and limit the throttle position if necessary to avoid high draft forces.
Note: Applying power on a standing locomotive longer than necessary will damage the DC traction motors.C. Starting, Descending Grade:
When starting a train on a descending grade
1. Ensure that the indepedent brake is fully applied.
2. Activate the dynamic brake to full.
3. Release the automatic brake and wait for all brakes to release and slack to adjust.
4. Reduce the independent brake until the train begins to move gradually.
5. Once the entire train is moving, gradually reduce the independent brake to avoid abrupt changes in slack*
6. Slowly release the indepedent brake when dynamic brake becomes effective.* - Comment: Does anyone need/want a tutorial about Slack, even though MSTS does not handle it well, i.e. what it is and why is important that the engineer know the slack condition of his train and handle slack run-in and run-out properly and gently?fwbryan

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Member since Oct-11-02 · 1114 posts

RE: Rule of the Week: Starting Your Train

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Member since Jul-30-02 · 79 posts

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Well I dont NEED it, but as you are offering ,why not, cant hurt ay, and I might learn something.
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South Oz, home of that grand ‘ol 900 class leader, “Lady Norrie”. I can still hear her bark!
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Member since Jul-18-02 · 262 posts

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Here's a question thrown out to all. How many of you operate your trains according to rules and how many just run trains how they feel like it.
Just Rollin Down The Tracks
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Member since Jul-23-03 · 79 posts

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> Here's a question thrown out to all.
>
> How many of you operate your trains according to rules and
>how many just run trains how they feel like it.
>
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>Just Rollin Down The Tracks
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> Dale I follow the rules as much as possible in MSTS.Tim

Tim Herman (parailfan312)
MP 98 - Norfolk Southern Harrisburg Line
Hershey, PA USA

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Member since Oct-11-02 · 1114 posts

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> How many of you operate your trains according to rules and
>how many just run trains how they feel like it.
Depends on my mood. If I'm angry, I'll speed a steam locomotive, a monsterous one too, like the SP&S 700. Otherwise, I try to follow the rules as mch as possible.

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I think a couple of paragraphs on slack management would be very good background.Many thanks for you articles so far.Derek

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Member since Aug-17-02 · 160 posts

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I handle my trains within the rules, as much as M$TS will allow. I appreciate the weekly posts. Thanks; Chuck F.

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Member since Apr-17-03 · 19 posts

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What kind of slack control would you guys be interested in? I got a bunch of CPR manuals that I could type on here..
Ryan
Revelstoke Bc
(Mile 125.7 CPR Mountain Subdivision)

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Further to Chris Bogley's suggestion, I'd like to see something on how well some of these "rules" are simulated in MSTS. Great to read all this stuff, but if it has no relevance to virtual railroading... might as well apply at the CPR!

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Charter Member · 207 posts

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The rules are selected based on how well they can be simulated in MSTS, and comments indicate exceptions. The entire rule is edited quite heavily to do this, and much is deleted. (saves typing, too)fwbryan

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