ATSF Marceline Bug Reports ONLY!

Please post bug reports here. Also, please leave the flames out of this thread....The following bugs have been reported so far:Problem:
BR roads "shape failed to load error"Solution:
Copy all the brick road (br etc...) to the GLOBAL/SHAPES folder in your Train Simulator directory.
Problem:
A1USBuffer.s "shape failed to load error"Solution:
Copy A1USBuffer.s shape from any default route into GLOBAL/SHAPES. The buffer I am using is NOT the default buffer and is available on the trainsim.com downloads area. I'll dig up the exact file name and post it here later.Problem:
ReadMe file is missing.Solution:
None at this time. It was accidentally left out of this build. I will post the file separately and include it in the next build.Problem:
Paths through Argentine Yard through tracks (the STRAIGHT route).Solution:
None at present there is a misaligned piece of track that I missed. Run down Main #1 or #2 which terminate just west of Morris. Paths included in the route either use the fast tracks (double track, north side of yard area) or terminate on Main-1 or -2 prior to Morris.Problem:
Incorrect pathing in unzip process.Solution:
Create a folder under TrainSimulator/Routes named ATSFMAR. Unzip files into this folder. I have switched over to using WinZip for this build and expected some pathing problems....Will RTFM a little closer for the next build. Apologies all around on this one!Problem:
Installation "autoexec.bat" file missing.Solution:
It's there. Look for INSTALL.BAT and run this file after you have unzipped the entire route into the ATSFMAR folder.I will continue to update this thread as I receive bug reports. I would prefer bug reports off forum but don't HAVE to have them that way.... Just gives me time to research and provide a solution that we can share with everyone.JBD

Jim Duncan
Midwest Rail Group

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Yep, I found the batch file I was looking for it in the original zips and missed it. Tahnks for the data I figured out everything except for the brick roads thanks for the info. Be Seeing you.
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While exploring the route, the following path end points reference will be useful. I will be adding additional paths as time permits. An "add-on" pack will be posted in the files area in the next few days with some activities and path/service add-ons....Please, to all who are exploring this route: Feel free to develop and upload activities designed to test the route. This is a public beta test of the route and all of the extra eyeballs looking things over are a big help when it comes to adjusting/editing down the road!Thanks to all who are helping in this process! (even if you never file a bug report)Path Points References:Argentine Yard (Santa Fe Yard, end of track west of AY Tower)Armstrong Yard (eventual UP KC Kansas yard, currently EOT of UP High Line)Avondale Yard (North Kansas City, NW yard)Block 224 (BN Main, current end of track west side of Avondale Elev.)Brunswick, Mo. (last town before east end of track, NW)Bucklin, Mo. (current end of track, ATSF)DeSoto, KS (end of track, ATSF west of Holliday, Topeka line)Eton Jct., Mo. (end of track, UP, SE of Eton Jct., single track)Marceline, Mo. (yard, last town before east end of track, ATSF)Palmer Creek, Mo. (east end of track NW line)West Holliday, KS (end of track, ATSF main line, double track)I think that covers all of the current path points. JBD

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I posted this in another thread and will post it here for anyone who wants to know:Ok, this is how things will go with my side of things. I plan on having Armstrong/Armourdale yards in my second Midwest Rail Group route, UPs Kansas Sub. As for the ATSF side of things, which will be my first route, I will be continuing west from where Jim left off. The first release will begin in Kansas City (thus anything east of there will NOT be included in my route releases) and extend the ATSF Topeka and Emporia Subs to my hometown Emporia, KS.
With the track alignment and other problems west of Argentine, mainly around Morris, I will refine everything from MP 7.1 (Turner) west. I will leave Jim to deal with the problems east of there if that will be ok with him. Argentine Yard will be included in both the Marceline and Emporia Sub routes.I want this to be known now as I just start this route. I will NOT include any of the objects that were in question earlier. I plan to include a whole lot of custom objects created by me and others freely available in the file library.If anybody has any questions, comments, suggestions, or concerns, please email me and let me know!Austin
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Austin:I found the bumpy tracks just now....Am already fixing them. Give me a couple of hours and I'll email you the changed world/tile files plus the tdb/rdb stuff....JD

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I've repaired the bumpy tracks west of AY Tower and adjusted levelness (is that a word?) on signals from AY west to end of track.I will be uploading a patch update later tonight. It will include world, tile, and database files that were updated tonight and involves only 8-10 tiles. This update is only for those wishing to fool around west of Santa Fe Junction (Kansas City) to West Holliday/DeSoto, Ks. (there really isn't anything there at this point)I have also added a new path for short runs starting at Holliday on the Topeka Sub. heading east and ending at Santa Fe Junction.Since I've never done a "patch" upgrade I must STRONGLY ADVISE anyone installing this patch to back up the route first! Note that if this patch works out, I'll do some additional patches over the next few days (some of which will include additional trackage!)JBD

Jim Duncan
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Jim,
I installed the beta version of Marceline and did encounter the bugs you listed. In addition, I encountered some "floating" roads near Morris on the N&W...interesting (I know, this is a test version}. I did download the patch but it promptly crashed MSTS during starting up the game. Ah, Kuju bugs...aren't they fun. Contact Brad Brown at 3D Train Stuff for permission to use his billboard for "Damitol", I'm sure you probably need abottle of it by now.You've a great job so far on this route but I would suggest using self installers in the final version. Thanks,
Al Evans

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If you installed the patch correctly, you should have no problems with the route. There are still many floating roads on the route that Jim will get to after he gets the KCT area done I believe. As for the Damitol billboard from the 3DTS Cajon and TPII routes, that should be available for international use to route designers everywhere!BTW, I am currently working on a few custom objects for the route, namely the Carrollton and Henrietta stations.Austin
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I have uploaded an interim build which addresses track and other issues reported through midnight 10/02/03. This interim build is OPTIONAL but includes the following:* Extension of track into Kansas City, Kansas, from lower level of KCT Double-Deck Kansas River bridge. Extension runs southwest to KCT Armourdale Yard (under construction) and north-by-northwest to the connection with the east end of the Rock Island Yard.* Using my newly-acquired learning of the "N" key, signals and objects west of Santa Fe Jct. have been leveled.* Tree groups along ATSF line to AY have been removed in preparation for using forest regions to populate the bluffs and reduce the tile object count. This will be a significant change in the next release eliminating a LOT of overhead object count across Missouri.* Two new paths: DeSoto, Ks. to ATSF Junction and KCT Armourdale to Argentine Yard (you have to wye your train at Adams St. and back across the river!)* Two new consists to use for transfer-type runs and testing. Both require non-default locomotives and cars...END-USERS ARE ADVISED IN THE STRONGEST POSSIBLE MANNER TO FULLY BACK UP THE ATSFMAR FOLDER BEFORE INSTALLING THIS PATCH!Installation instructions may be found in the INSTALL.TXT file included in the patch.Please continue bug reports! Screenshots are especially appreciated showing problems...JBD

Jim Duncan
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In checking the activities that were included with the route and the consists that were uploaded separately, Route_Riter and Train Store report two missing consists: MOP12.con and sou5935locos.con.MOP12.con affects MPEXPRSW.act. sou5935locos.con affects NW2AYFRT.act, NW415east.act and WBPassenger.act.Can you upload MOP12.con and sou5935locos.con here or to the file library?Bert Lattan

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Will do! Give me some time.... I'm working on a couple of activities this afternoon, too!JBD

Jim Duncan
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Jim where can we find the GM&O locos and cars? I'm getting errors that ask for these files.Also the MOP12.con file is missing.

Claude350 Piedmont Division Raleigh East
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I posted an interim patch last night and it is up on the files area as SFMAR06a.zip. The patch includes the missing consists.For personal reasons I won't comment on the GM&O equipment at this time.JBD

Jim Duncan
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Sighouse1a.s missing.Need this and the .sd file.

Claude350 Piedmont Division Raleigh East
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Hmmmmmmm....first report of a missing shape file.... Did you run the INSTALL.BAT? (he asked stupidly)Sighouse1a sounds like it's a default file.... If you don't have it in the default routes let me know....I'll get you the files off-forum..JBD

Jim Duncan
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I ran into the same problem.Also, I couldn't find this A1USBuffer.s file in any of my add-on routes. Where can we get ahold of it?CB

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The A1USBuffer is a different buffer. When RouteRiter processed the route it picked that file up as being a default shape (since it's in the global folder). There is a new set of buffers and other track details available in the download library. The filename escapes me right now....You can TRY to copy the buffer .s, .sd, and (if there is one) .thm from your global folder to the route shapes folder. Don't forget to do the same thing for the texture file (global copy to route/texture).JBD

Jim Duncan
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I couldn't find the sighouse1a.a file in any of the routes and yes I did run the install bat.

Claude350 Piedmont Division Raleigh East
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OK, let me look for it and I'll email the file to both of yous guys!JBD

Jim Duncan
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Thanks for your reply. I hate to be a pest, but I can't find any "A1USBuffer.s" file anywhere in MSTS on my harddrive, and I can't find anything by doing a search in the file library by using "a1usbuffer" and only three unrelated files by using "buffer". Thanks again for you time and effort.CB

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Those that need the sighouse or buffer file, please send me your home email address and I'll attach the files in a return email....Send to jdbandman@earthlink.netJBD

Jim Duncan
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The buffer I used is a new buffer and can be downloaded here on trainsim.com.... Search the Scenery section for "Hobart's Railroad Stuff"..... filename is rrstuff.zipHappy hunting....JBD

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Jim
Not trying to start a flame war,just purely informational.Claude
For reasons that I won't get into the creator of most of the GM&O stock has withdrawn his work from public access and shut down his website.Gary S

"Some say this country's just out for a fight. After 9/11 man I'd have to say thats right"
"Have You Forgotten"
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Yes, I'm already aware (have been for several days) but thanks for the update..... Let's just all agree to leave this subject alone, OK folks?JBD

Jim Duncan
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LAST EDITED ON Oct-08-03 AT 07:38 PM (EDT)

So with all the GMO stock required and not available what are we suppose to do? Yes I can use conbuilder to swap all of the missing files but we shouldn't have to.Why not use something that is in the library until the GMO files can be included.Just my 2 cents.You flamers go ahead and do your thing.

Claude350 Piedmont Division Raleigh East
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Let me see what I can do about that.... JBD

Jim Duncan
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Thanks for the reply Jim.Hey I love the route and I'm behind you on this project but please do something about the consists.Or try to make it so that we're not having to download alot of files ( wagons and locos ) to make the route work.Especially since the route is still in the beta stages.

Claude350 Piedmont Division Raleigh East
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Thanks, Claude!With all the crap I've had to endure the past couple of months it's gratifying to know that my work is appreciated! I'm doing some research on what I can and can't distribute....please be patient!JBD

Jim Duncan
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Take your time Jim.

Claude350 Piedmont Division Raleigh East
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JBD,I just installed the latest update (06d) to the ATSF Marceline route. After I ran it through RouteRiter "check route" several times, and copied the missing files that RouteRiter and I could find in default and add-on routes, here's the report that it produced:"Shape file icmonss.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the default routes.
Shape file icmonss.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the default routes.
Shape file icmonss.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the default routes.
Shape file icmonss.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the default routes.
Shape file icmonss.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the default routes.
Shape file USUQ1per.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the default routes.
Shape file USUQ1per.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the default routes.
Shape file USUQ1per.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the default routes.
Shape file USUQ1per.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the default routes.
Shape file SRV_PeaveyElevator.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the default routes.
Shape file USUQ3abs.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the default routes.
Shape file USUQ1per.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the default routes.
Shape file USUQ1per.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the default routes.
Shape file ABSpole_2B.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the default routes.
Shape file ABSpole_2B.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the default routes.
Shape file ABSpole_2B.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the default routes.
Shape file ABSpole_2B.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the default routes.
Shape file ABSpole_2B.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the default routes.
Shape file ABSpole_2B.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the default routes.
Shape file ABSpole_2B.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the default routes.
Shape file ABSpole_2B.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the default routes.
Shape file ABSpole_2B.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the default routes.
Shape file ABSpole_2B.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the default routes.
Shape file ABSpole_2B.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the default routes.
Shape file USUQ1per.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the default routes.
Shape file USUQ1per.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the default routes.
Shape file ABSpole_2B.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the default routes.
Texture file SignalH1a.ace referred by Sighouse1a.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the default routes.
Texture file SignalH2a.ace referred by Sighouse1a.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the default routes."
Does it appear to you that these messages are valid and accurate? I realize that several of the messages are duplicates, but that's what RouteRiter came up with. The error report was much larger before I copied the files that I was able to find in add-on routes. If your route does actually use the files listed in the error report can you give us an idea where to obtain these files? I realize that these files are probably used in various add-on routes (besides the ones that I have installed), but, I'm sure that you would agree, it would be practically impossible to download and install every add-on route in order to try to find the files for your route. Thanks for any help that you can give us.CB

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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....weird..... Let me get back to you on this in a couple hours...JBD

Jim Duncan
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ArRRRRRRRRRRRgh!Got in a hurry, folks.... I'll post a file with the new shapes/textures shortly.... This is what I get for trying to get this out the door when I was in a hurry to get out the door myself Tuesday noon!JBDShape/texture file will be named SFMShpTx.zip

Jim Duncan
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File should show up tomorrow, folks.... My apologies....INSTALLATION INSTRUCTIONS: These shapes should NOT overwrite anything already in the route but, as always, be sure you have a safe back-up copy of the route. Simply unzip the file directly into your route....Textures are present for various seasons if they have them.Please continue to report any further missings shapes/textures or other problems! Enjoy the semaphores on the Topeka Sub. and the GM&O east of Rock Creek!Also, thanks for everyone's patience.... I'm still learning how to do all the route-processing stuff.... (I'm keeping written notes in my route development notebook!!!)
JBD

Jim Duncan
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Thanks. No apologies necessary. Stick with it and don't get discouraged (that's easy for me to say).CB

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Thanks very much for posting the latest patch file name (SFMShpTx.zip). I was able to find it without waiting for it to show up in the new files list.After applying this patch and the b & d patches, the Route_Riter "Check Route" function gives me the following error report:Shape file usflagpole.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the default routes.
Shape file icmonss.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the default routes.
Shape file icmonss.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the default routes.
Shape file icmonss.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the default routes.
Shape file icmonss.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the default routes.
Shape file icmonss.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the default routes.
Shape file SRV_PeaveyElevator.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the default routes.
Shape file 0BridgeA2L150.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the default routes.
Shape file 0BridgeA2L150.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the default routes.
Shape file 0BridgeA2L150.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the default routes.
Shape file 0BridgeA2L150.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the default routes.
Shape file SRV_CSXbridgeControlTower.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the default routes.
Shape file Sighouse1a.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the default routes.
Texture file UQSmphrtex.ace referred by USUQ1per.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the default routes.
Texture file UQSmphrtex.ace referred by USUQ3abs.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the default routes.Can you post a patch with these items or post where they can be found?Thanks,Bert Lattan

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I've partially answered my own question.usflagpole.s is in clutter2.zip
SRV_PeaveyElevator.s is in srv_gpc1.zip
SRV_CSXbridgeControlTower.s is in srvbldg1.zip
UQSmphrtex.ace is in uqsfmr10.zipIn addition to copying the s files into the route, I also copied directly related sd and ace files.I'm still stuck on icmonss.s, 0BridgeA2L150.s and Sighouse1a.s.Bert Lattan

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Well, I THOUGHT I had all of the necessary files in the shapes patch.... More to do tonight...Information for those choosing to download the Upper Quadrant Semaphore package: Do NOT install the Signal.dat or SIGCFG.dat files! This will completely blow away all other signals. The ATSF Marceline signal setup files are a special breed! #2: The blades on GM&O and ATSF semaphores were all red. If you install the UQSem without intervention the blades will be yellow! To make red blades, delete the UQSemaphore.tex file and rename UQSemaphore_R.tex to the original file name! Rather than have to upload Ron Picardi's and Hank Sundermeyer's signal files again, it would be easier for you to simply download and install these as separate downloads!JBD

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Same here. Missing: icmonss.s , 0BridgeA2L150.s ,Sighouse1a.s,
AND 0Yrdtrans.ace
Probably need the sd files that go along with the .s files. John

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In writing and testing a new activity featuring the new Alco 626's, I discovered a previously-unknown bug....Night textures for the river barges and tugboats do not exist! As you come anywhere near the Sibley Bridge on ATSF, or any of the near-encounters with the Missouri River on the NW side you will encounter a missing shape file error IF RUNNING AT NIGHT!The error lists the following files as not found:BargeRail.ace
BargeGrain216.ace
BargeTex.ace
Catwalk.ace
Tidewater1.ace
Tidewater2.aceThe FIX IS:The six files listed above will be found in the TEXTURES folder. Simply COPY the six files into the NIGHT subdirectory of TEXTURES!I have just finished addressing all of the little varmints that I've kept on a list here this evening and am working on getting rid of the rest of the "flying roads" in favor of actual road placement now. This process should be completed sometime tomorrow at which time I will go to work on extending eastward. Once I get to Ft. Madison and get the yardwork in KC finished the route will be released as Build 0.7.I am also in the process of making a compilation of GM&O equipment which will be posted in the files section early next week. None of Paul Fowler's GM&O equipment will be included in this compilation. The equipment included will be things which were released as freeware by other authors only.I also encourage you to consider downloading the GM&O F-3 as well as the Super Chief set from 3DTrains.com. GM&O F's run well, just have the wrong horn but that's easily fixable!Would anyone be willing to re-skin some S-2's and SW-7's for Kansas City Terminal Ry.???? 9 #'s in each unit (50-59 and 70-79, respectively)...JBDJBD

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I need help BAD ! Loaded all files as best I could. Now I cannot even open Train Sim at all........it crashes evey time.
I keep getting message " AppName:train.exe APP Ver 1.16.5.912 Modname:train.exe Modver:1.16.5.912 Offset:002f4b9a".
I think I am in deep doo doo. Have reinstalled Train Sim (kept all files though). Hope I do not have to uninstall all to repair. (596 locos).
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Cheers
442rayrae@idl.com.au

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The best thing to do is delete this route untill it is fixed.Kevin Arceneaux
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I'm with Kevin on this one - I deleted the route and will wait until all the bugs are worked out. The interesting thing is that on the original install Route Riter just needed to copy over a few files from the default route and all was fine. Applied the patches and missing all kinds of .s and .sd files. One other request of the route developers out there. If you are going to include activities in your route that require non-default equipment, please include a list of the file names that need to be downloaded and where they are located.Ken

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I'll try to help as best as I can.... Questions:1) Are you running version 1.2 of M$TS?2)Did you download the FULL route and install it first?3)Did you run the INSTALL.BAT after unzipping? This copies a LOT of files from the six default routes into ATSFMAR...4)Have you applied the two patches to the route? (I suspect that THIS is what is crashing you as there have been a lot of additions since build 0.6 was released....)5) Did you try completely erasing the route and try to re-start M$TS without the route present?6) Do you have X-Tracks 3.7 and the latest Global Tsection.dat installed? This is a REQUIREMENT (probably the #1 reason for the software crashing...... using default global tsection.dat with routes that call for the updated global files)This is the first "fatality" I've heard of with the route so I'd really like to get a detailed 'step-by-step' of how you installed the route...Answer the questions as best as you can and that should help us diagnose what went wrong. DON'T reinstall (yet!)....Sorry that this has given you a problem!JBD

Jim Duncan
Midwest Rail Group

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Thanks Jim for your reply. I have backed up my entire Train Sim folder to my other hard drive, and uninstalled the original. I then reinstalled the basic Sim again on the original hard drive. I then gradually copied the files back from the back up version. It is now back to normal,less Marceline.
I can answer Yes to most of your questions,but find I do not have X-Tracks V3.7...only the first. I do not have Global Tsection.dat, so you were right. I must confess that I am an amatuer,as I do not know where to find the Global file. I'd appreciate some advice on this. I was at a bit of a loss on this...........but then again, I do live at the bottom of the world, here in OZ.
Cheers mate,
Ray

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Well, I was pretty sure that the lack of X-Tracks and global track file was your problem....Both are included in version 3.7 of X-Tracks. Just download it from here on trainsim.com and you'll be good to go!Sorry you had a problem! JBD

Jim Duncan
Midwest Rail Group

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