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Dear Invisible Family,The product, London Brighton Express, by Aerosoft was mentioned here as a dandy new route, and so, of course, yours truly immediately jumped on the bandwagon. At http://www.europeanbahn.co.uk/ , I found the product and read the full page of gushing syrupy praise from users which concluded with what, in hindsight could have been taken by me as a caveat from the company:“There have been 6 people so far who have expressed great disappointment in the product - which goes to show you can never please all of the people all of the time!” Why cite “6 people” with “Great disappointment?” If 6 people had great disappointment, did 46 have minor difficulties? Did 2 die of trauma? Significantly, the FAQ page is under construction. One can not log onto the forum page until the product, with registration number, is in hand. And about that registration number: Mine had 0s, or were they Os? It took three tries to hit the right combination.“What’s the matter jiva?” You may ask. Well, I’ll tell you. All these little things, coupled with the fact that I’ve paid almost $50 bucks and as your are about to read 6 1/2 hours untangling the mess I got myself into just take a chunk out of life.If I made $5.00 an hour, that would be more than I can afford, and of course, I don’t make $5.00/hour! Besides, if I’m paying to engage in problems ... well that’s another story ... one which includes knowing what you’re getting into in advance, and agreeing upon limits. I thought I saw somewhere that a P III is adequate to run this software, and I know this venerable machine, almost three years old now, will run even the detailed routes I’ve tried: Deep NEC 4, Inspiring D&H, beautiful Canton, etc.$48.23 later, I’d ordered the product. One can not download this item as with the Bridge Route, for instance. No problem ... I can wait. CDs are nice. A receipt came by e-mail, and I saw on line that my check card had been duly dunned. Next thing I knew, a message arrived by e-mail which was to me, kind of cryptic. Paraphrasing, the message said that I’d receive this product within a few days of its release. Many here know me! I can not figure out what that message meant: Was the LBE to be held up until more could be stamped or burned or whatever it is they do? (We’ve seen this before ... order ... pay ... then wait while essentially your payment is used to help make more.) If that was the case, still ... fine with me. Or ... did Aerosoft mean within a few days of LBE’s release from their stock room to the post office?I e-mailed back with just this question and here, several days later there has been no response to that e-mail.But better than a response, come Monday morning, there, by Royal Mail was the LBE sitting pretty in our mail box. I thought of the irony ... if you’ll allow a little hyperbole, the huge size of this new route could take some people with slower modems more time to down load than it took to arrive from England by Royal Mail. (About 3 days). I could not have received this product sooner if it had been chuted into the yard by Concorde. I was encouraged! This company apparently has its ear to the ground, (or sky, or wires) and they know and respect the concept that people like to have the product in their hand as soon as possible after doling out the cash.The package is nice, there is a great little booklet included which is actually not as chummy as it first seems; We’ve got three languages here, German, French and English. The manual is pretty verbose. Included are pages which detail and go on about the teamwork and the creation of their product plus the names of those who were responsible. There is a lot of talk about how good LBE is. Kevin Arceneaux, they ain’t! Kevin goes, “This is it ... here.” Then, after sometimes we users become co-workers, the Arceneaux product is absolutely worth it, many times over. Plus, Dr. K always responds helpfully (if briefly) when you ask.On the fourth page of the English manual a third of the way down, I see at last “System Requirements.” There it is written with the Aeorsoft aggrandizing flavor , “The development of London-Brighton Express has in many areas, pushed the specifications of the route to the limits of MSTS. In order to enjoy this product to its fullest, we suggest that your PC should have the following:” (I got the feeling Aerosoft could not speak without thumping themselves on the chest.)The very first bullet states: “minimum 1 gig processor, recommended 1,6 (sic) Ghz.” NOW they tell me!“Uh oh,” sez I. (We’re looking at about 800 MHz here.) What happened subsequently is therefore in my opinion, not the company’s fault. I installed it anyway. I saw “When using Windows XP or Windows 2000 as your operating system you will have to be registered as the system administrator in order to begin with the installation.” We’re on old Win 98 here. I felt secure in disregarding.I was pleased to see the Norton’s Clean Sweep pop up upon invoking the installation: “Want me to watch?” this system was asking. “Hell yes,” I thought and punched on through the installation process. I’d first Unstored everything 2X via Train Store. The installation took a good long time. After it was all done, I reopened Train Store, and I was pleased to see my new LBE sitting there just waiting for me in the Train Store directory. Eagerly, I stored all but the fresh LBE.By the way, a 10 minute movie is included with the CD. When I try to check it out, I get this kind of familiar (sometimes) error message: “The MP43 codec is required to play this file. To determine if this codec is available to download from the Web, click Web Help.”Click Web Help, and you are taken to a Windows Media 9 Series page, and the message: “The required codec cannot be found. Windows Media Player cannot play the file because the required codec cannot be found. To determine how to obtain the codec identified as MP43, contact the content provider.”A Google search brings up many hits, some of them are driver download sites some of them are from others looking for MP43. From experience I can attest that such an expedition calls for even more caution of a different kind: Spyware abounds in many on line driver libraries. When items simultaneously lurk and leap, it is time for me to carefully consider if I can afford the requisite care in such places.Drivers and codecs ... this is another time consuming place I can’t afford to go right now. What ever happened to Plug n Play? Or was that Kid n Play? The fact is, the movie would be a nice treat, but hey, the Real Player, Quck Time, and the Windows Media player work fine ... on streaming video and assorted other files. Someday soon I’ll address this issue.Anyway ... on to the troubles. First of all, I did not get the first time message “Building ...” you know what I mean ... the “building (something or other)” we often see when starting a route for the first time. It is perfectly normal and has to do with taking files from default routes ... I think.I imagine or (shudder) reason this does not happen with payware because those who sell stuff are not supposed to use MSTS stuff. The fact that this screen did not appear could well be part of the reason this route is so big, byte wise.I wonder if some critical (for my installation ... Xtracks? MSTS 2.1? Sky Conductor even?) MSTS or other files were overwritten?Now, what I am about to describe may be a function of my “slow” PC or not. I can’t be sure. Hey, let me tell you some of the good stuff: The cab view is nice as anything: wipers work. (From outside of course) The passenger view is standard fare ... (no pun intended). I may have been spoiled by so much other super excellent stuff here at Train-sim.com and others.The sound is great. I love that rumblin’ buildin’ electric and steel feeling! There is no head out view. As we know, this can be remedied easily, and also, just maybe this is a result of you know, the underspeed PC? The route, from what I was able to see looks nothing like the screen shots. This is almost certainly a consequence of the slow PC here. However, two things: Slow PC in my subjective experience with MSTS has so far meant stuttering frame rates, not missing or bland stuff. Since I have removed LBE from this system by now, I do not have my screen shots to post for you, but what I saw was frankly ... crude. Lots of tracks though. Please understand, I am NOT saying the route was crude ... this PC does not meet the suggested minimum standards.
I may be at the point where certain software just will not run here. If so, LBE is my first sample thereof.OK ... I tried to go for my first run. This PC has an idiosyncracy (don’t we all?) : Although I have the cable modem, when she’s about to call home, the old dial up modem starts clicking. And ... yep, there she was: “Call Home? I’m outta here.” And I was back at the desktop.So what! Might be just any old thing ... I’ll try again with a different activity. This time I took care to notice what I could ... I saw third rail / shoe flash, which was nice! I tried P for Pantograph but the doors did not open or close.I put her in forward, released the brakes and moved just a little ... again the great subway like sound ... but then quickly “I’m outta here, you really should be back at your Desktop shouldn’t you?” And there I was.Back at Train Store, I stored LBE and went for the NEC 4 and one of Mr. Arceneaux’s activities which I KNOW works great! (Understatement)This time, the machine here gave me a dose of chagrin. “Baby, you can’t go anywhere with MSTS, I’m calling home.” I got the feeling whatever was wrong might spread. I’ve seen it before. You get a few symptoms, you forge on, next thing you know you are lucky to be able to boot in SAFE mode.I ran Route Control for the report and clean up. Before this LBE, we were clean as the proverbial MSTS whistle. The report came back with pages of errors everywhere. And ... consists has been backed up.Once RC goes through its paces, we’re usually able to kick MSTS in again, but upon trying .... “Nope, I wanna call home.” I felt nervous. Many have stated that MSTS is just a game, but I submit that if one spends oh say ... an average of an hour a day with something, 7 days a week, 365 1/4 days a year, there is at least special significance and attachment! Recall the “You're on MSTS too much if you ...” thread here a while back? I’m telling you ... game or not ... I’m here and I love it ... love it more than a lot of other things I am compelled to take up which are not called games.Back at Train Store then, I again unstored everything and using Norton’s Clean sweep, uninstalled LBE. In their instructions, LBE advises to uninstall (they call it “de-install” (Tea anyone? ) via START / Control Panel / add remove ... you know. I reasoned therefore that the Norton’s Clean Sweep product, having monitored and being hand in glove with Microsoft would do the job very nicely.It took a long long time. But LBE was gone, if not forgotten. (Clean Sweep has the temerity to make backups of what it erases for you.) Whatever happened with the installation of LBE was not fixed by removing it. MSTS would no longer load at all.Then I took the tape back up I so very fortunately have and restored MSTS, with the overwrite everything option checked. This took many hours. There may have been only a couple of files I actually needed to recover but I did not know what they were ... maybe some global didldy or a *.dll. Also, having had RC back up so many consists, it seemed easier to just replop the consists huh? Otherwise I’d be consist by consist loading in Consist Builder and correcting etc. The tape back up restore seemed more viable for me here. This meant a long long time during which this machine was not available.In the end, (now) MSTS is back, and in fine fettle sans LBE. I see where there is a patch available on line (now that I have registered) but I don’t know how much more I want to dedicate to this process. The product probably is excellent for most. My troubles can not be said to be the fault of Aeorsoft. I wonder if selling LBE on Ebay would be a violation of copyright law. Probably. I bet it might not be illegal to send my copy of LBE to someone here for testing on their faster PC. (If you like that idea let me know).
I’ll get a newer faster computer one day ... but I can not help speculating that the difficulties I encountered were NOT due to the dottering old processor here. I have the FEELING that other key files were overwritten: Slow speed has in the past meant fumbling frame rates here. Desktop adhesion from MSTS seems to indicate some more fundamental problem.Well folks thanks for reading this jivajjiva quasi review. ‘Time to work here now.Respectullyjivajiva

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It's a shame you couldn't get L2B to run as I think it's a great product. I run MSTS on a P3 500MHz, GeForce2MX400 with 390-odd MB of RAM. I have all graphic sliders to max (but precipitation and detailed shadows turned off) and my copy installed and ran with no problems whatsoever. OK... leaving Victoria with 2 other trains got me about 3fps... But then when I want to run NEC4 I have to turn detail way down to achieve even that. Admittedly, there's a detail lack 100 yards or so from either side of the track, but from the cab, you don't need those mile away houses and factories if there are trees between you and them. What scenery there is is nicely produced and there's enough of it to make the whole experience believable. I'm constantly impressed with the South London views that accompany you for 10 miles or so from Victoria. Remember London is a very green city indeed. Trees and parks a common views from London trains.I can appreciate that it's not everyone's cup of tea, but I think it's also fair for me to balance up the review here. And I'm not involved in the project at all... although I must admit to a friendship with a few of the team.As far as I know the patch fixes a couple of activity glitches only... not any of the installation.If you did manage to register your product, don't forget you also get a months free subscription to UKTrainsim.com, so get downloading other routes and stock whilst you can.

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Hello! What is your operating system? You make me feel hopeful. LB2 did run ... a little ... then bonded me to the desktop. Plus before install: all is well. After install, MSTS crashes. De-install and reinstall MSTS, all is well again.
jivajiva

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I have a 2gig athlon, 512meg ram, 64meg graphics card, and find L2B to be one of the easier routes to get good framerates. The lack of distant detail certainly helps, but there is an awful lot of AI on the route, which wont help.If you have trouble with this route, you will get much worse with Protrain3 and Germanrailroads 2, which are the first to give me single framerates on my system in places. The most testing of all is Skipton/Carlisle 1920, where I sometimes get errors. I am certainly upgrading in the near future, and I expect you will need to as well.I like L2B very much, a typical commuter route, as it is very close to the real thing, the activities are very good.David

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I look forward to that time when I may be able to run this route too.
I wonder which operating system you are using. This may have some relevance!
2 gigs? Whoa!
jivajiva

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I have to agree with Fodda and DTA.But the Scenery intensity as far as the eye can see does not compare with the likes of the P.O.&.N, N.&.J.C. or SEAVIEW-III, but what you do see is done nicely. Also like the 3rd-Rail tracks.Have no troubles running it under WIN-XP, 1.5 Gb DDR RAM and a 128 Mb RAM nVIDIA GT-4600, not surprisingly. O t t o

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L2B is running fine here too. Although, after initial installation, MSTS use to crash back to the desktop on loading. I installed the new patch and BINGO!, all is well. I like the route very much but wish it had better Rail Driver support.As to the video on the CD, it played fine here. It's great to have and I would like to see all train routes in all train games supply such a movie. It really brings the whole route to life to see the stations and trains as they really are.My PC specs:Pentium III 800
128Mb RAM
GeForce 4 TI4600 128Mb graphics card
Windows ME(A delightful route but point taken about the manual. A lot of self praise going on.)

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Any Win 98 users have success with this tantalizing route?
j
PS edit: I will probably like the look see factor more too ... once I am able to get more than a few feet from the station! I LIKE this route ... for now I just can't get at it though. That many others are liking is encouraging here ... but ... Win 98's vulnerability to "advanced" *.dlls haunts me as a possibility!
jiva

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Someone told me privately that LBE installs the latest tsection.dat because of its use of custom track sections. This person went on to say that this might be OK but there is no warning in the instructions about this for users who do not have Finescale or X-Tracks. I don’t know what Finescale is, but I do have X-Tracks in here. This person says that for such users you will get a huge amount of error messages because MSTS is looking then for track sections which are not there.Further, the uninstall program does not restore the previous tsection.dat. The quality of track laying is not good either, according to this anonymous source. He (or she) says to get 10 degree junctions they simply laid track pieces over each other which occasionally causes collision between AI trains and your trains because the signaling does not recognize this as a diamond.Hey ... diamonds? EULA? This person says more care should have been put int the EULA I don’t know ... I’m sure this can all be fixed. Someday. My review was based on not even getting out of the station and being unable to subsequently load MSTS at all. Here’s input from another source.Is there anyone who has this fine (not sarcastic ... I can tell ... it IS fine) route running under Win 98?Come back?

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I am pretty sure it doesn't use xtracks, but I could be wrong. The 1.1 patch corrects a few collision points at the diamonds you mention, plus one other error point near Brighton, that causes a send dont send.David

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This route has rapidly become one of my favorites.I now run a high end machine so low end users MAY have issues.If you have CER installed it willl crash you. BUT move CER into another folder and you will be fine. There is supposed to be a patch.The route means something to me as I have ridden that route in the UK. My only grief was the fence work was a little wacked...as stated before the fence builders must have hit the Pub's perhaps before going to work.The scenery looks great to me, I recognize landmarks from my travels on the route and I stayed in Victoria Station (At the hotel of course) and I know that area fairly well. I give the route a B+ If you like UK routes it is a must have. BobFlorida Railfan Page
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Well I read quite a few remarks about my products, this is the best so far, it has made me both laugh and cry. Overall I think most of you have enjoy the route and that is good news, sorry to the few who had problems or just did get alone with it. Maybe we can get a better result with you next time around.Still thanks for the compliements - and yes I am listening to the qripes as wellKen A

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Welcome to the Forum, Ken ! I am an old costumer of yours going back to I think it was the TGV Trainsim Pack you supplied the Route for ?Got a feeling you remember my then gripes well ! I am looking forward to what the LBE will look like in the next version of MSTS !!! I think that the Fences display problem is more down to the current MSTS Graphics than their creators.Take Care, O t t o

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Sorry jiva... I was away from the system for a while so I didn't see your query. I did mean to include the OS, I use Windows XP. Perhaps it is something to do with 98, but it's more likely to do with that tsection.dat for some reason. I'm using a downloaded tsection.dat v19, I know this because I had to go from 20 down to 19 when installing the Bala Hub extension to the Ruabon Barmouth route.L2B still runs here. And I didn't have to worry about codecs and stuff for the video either.Good luck J, I'm sure you'd like it if you could get it working.

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I understand with regard to getting feedback on your product. Creating a route or an activity or let’s face it ... anything at all ... goes forth as a part of the creator. It is like writing a book, or even raising a child in a way sometimes. I laughed ... I cried ... (I lived, I loved!)I do like LBE2, but significantly, I have not seen any sign or indication that someone ... anyone .... is happily running LBE2 on their Win 98 system. I’ll “play” with it some more after my latest project is done ( Www.wheelingcycle.com ) I’m certainly not angry or even frustrated (for what it’s worth) I once downloaded a very nice free locomotive here which subsequently caused the necessity to reformat my HD. That made me a little unhappy, but following R. Garber’s example, I took to the philosophy that “It probably needed formatting anyway.”
Now, I have not had to format, I have MSTS running great again now ... thanks to the back up.What I’ll do is have an MSTS mirror here on the LAN. The tape drive deal is very sloooowwww. It is obvious that lots of work and love went into LBE2. Still, if someone has it running on a Win 98 system ... puleeze let me know!!Very respectfully
jivajiva

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jivajiva,having nothing better to do at the moment but to recover from a minor Heart Attack, I shall install the LBE-2 on my WIN-98SE, ATHLON 1900+, 512 Mb RAM, nVIDIA GT-4600 machine as well.Will report my findings soon.O t t o

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O.K. jivajiva, installed it on my WIN-98SE and apart from never getting past 7 F.p.S. in any view it seems to run alright using the LBSC Class 377 out of Victoria, platform 11.The only problem I had was that after the Install "Finished" I could not load MSTS, the hour glass being stuck on a black background. No "End Task" possible, had to re-start the machine. Fine after that !The Install replaces whatever Tsection.dat you may have had with Build-19 and obviously installs all the appropriate Track Shapes it needs.Perhaps you should try it in a NON-Train Store controlled MSTS environment ?O t t o

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Thanks, Otto! I will try again soon in the non TS environ. Hmmm ... Heart attacks? Me too! They are terrible. Please be well, and thank you very much for the kind and particular attention. If you don't need LBE2 on that Win 98 machine ... and you have the time ... see what happens if you un (de) install LBE 2 on that machine. According to that anonymous source cited earlier in this thread THAT could lead to problems. Thanks again, Otto, I know you are busy as anything!
Very respectfully
your jivajiva

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Never too busy to try things on my computers, jivajiva !Un-Installed the LBE with "Control Panel - Add/Remove Programs", no problems.Seems to have installed into "Programs" on the WIN-98SE, but not on the WIN-XP Home.Some Installs which create new Registry entries fail to tell you to re-start the machine in order to update the Registry. Not doing that could be a reason for the installed program not to function !O t t o

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Hello!
That does it! Thank you Otto! If it works most everywhere else under most every other similar condition, you have opened the door for me to join the happy LBE2 club. I’ll reinstall ... invoke the patch etc. Having Norton's Active while installing is also something I will bypass this time. I'll have a mirror MSTS on the LAN so I won't have to wait so many hours for the tape back up to do its work in case something goes wrong goes wrong goes wrong goes wrong
Respectfully and with thanks ...
eagerjiva

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If you want to eliminate the effect of any files being stored, it is only necessary to use the 'Unstore Everything!' option in Train Store. This will remove everything from storage, and then Train Store has no effect on MSTS until you store something again.Installation of Train Store does not make any changes to MSTS files MSTS folders or MSTS registry settings so it is not necessary to uninstall to carry out this test.Tony

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HelloThat’s a big 10-4, Tony. The fact is, to me, “Unstore Everytthing” is exactly how I operate “outside the trainstore environment.” If not for TS, Baby, ... well, let’s just say I have way way too many consists and rolling stock. Manually moving whole routes or sections in and out of the MSTS directory opens the door for too many errors to me. TS keeps me where I’d like to be ... hey ... I even believe TS somehow helps with frame rates. That can’t be true ... can it?One of my favorite routes of all time? Lintworld! Well, it has everything! (To me).See, with Train Store, I am able to have ALL this material at the fingertips. TS is hand and glove with MSTS.Respectfully
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