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3DRailHoundCharter Member · 311 posts

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Well, I couldn't resist any longer..here are some work in progress renderings of our new AC 12 Cab Forward, teasers if you will, however, I'll have to leave you guessing as to what new route we are making them for and who we are working on the project with 3D Train Stuff: 3DTS throws hat into the US Steam arena – image 23D Train Stuff: 3DTS throws hat into the US Steam arena – image 3Btw, we will be making alot of new BIG US steam locomotives for msts in the months ahead, and look for an update on our website soon announcing several new add-ons that we are getting ready to release for our famous Cajon Pass and Tehachapi Pass routes..untill then, keep'em on the high irons Best regards,
Brad Brownwww.3DTrainStuff.com

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dcushingMember since Aug-14-02 · 142 posts

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Who do I send the bill for a new keyboard to? Mine's all covered with slobber and drool. That has got the be the most beatuiful locomotive I've seen in a long while. I don't care what route it's being planned for, I know it'll look good going around the loop at Tehachapi.

Duncan

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IcyFireCharter Member · 2671 posts

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WOW, who'd modeling it? was this the one Sacramento loco works was doing? (another add-on group for msts)

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bnsf1959Charter Member · 519 posts

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Thanks for clearing it up Erik. I didn't want to start a rumor that doesn't exist.
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GrizzlyBearMember since May-31-03 · 67 posts

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Stunning, simply stunning. There is no other word for it. It's about time we had more payware steam. My guess is you guys are working with SLM on whatever route that was they were working on. Is it going to include that SP 0-6-0 with the sausage tender? I like that one. Guess I'd better start saving my allowance again. Great work you guys, it makes my day to see another payware developer finally getting into the steam business. It's been a long wait for us steam guys.Grizzly3D Train Stuff: 3DTS throws hat into the US Steam arena – image 10 3D Train Stuff: 3DTS throws hat into the US Steam arena – image 11

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rgh69Member since Apr-6-03 · 555 posts

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Shameless plug here but German Railroads volume 3 is about steam engines in former East Germany. Now I think of it, who else (payware) is using steam engines?Edit: 3Dtrainsstuff UK of course!! Nice Southern Pacific locomotive btw!

Met vriendelijke groet,
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Lone_Gunman_SGCharter Member · 1855 posts

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im just praying it does not end up as payware...thn i wont be able to get it ------------------------------------------------------------
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TrainTrak5000Charter Member · 714 posts

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That's a really cool track texture Brad! Edit: Oh yes, and that cab forward is stunning also. -- Mike Karlik --
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kevarcCharter Member · 5504 posts

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I would venture that it is Donner. SP used these on wither Donner ot TP. They were used in other places later as they were displaced.Kevin Arceneaux
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seernCharter Member · 385 posts

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Well, if those train number boards mean anything, Train 60 was the south bound West Coast between Sacarmento and LA. So it could be the extension of the TPII and Cajon up the vally all the way to SF. Just a guess mind you.

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IdahojeffCharter Member · 257 posts

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Excellent detective work there Sharon. However SP only went east and west, and nothing was west of San Francisco. #60 is indeed the eastbound West Coast. I would hope to see (if a new route) the Soledad Canyon Line (L.A. to Palmdale) or better yet Tehachapi backdated to about 1952.Jeff

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RichardCharter Member · 329 posts

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WOW, looks great. I hope it's for the Donner Pass route. The 2-8-8-4's were originally turned around for that line if I remember correctly. The reason was to give the engine crews a break from the smoke in the many tunnels on the line. Another plus, it was part of the first transcendental railroad. If it is the Donner Pass route, please include Roseville yard, I spent many a happy weekend railfanning there while I was in the Air Force. Do they still have one of the cab forwards in the Sacramento Railroad Museum?Take care,
Rich S.

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smp11512Member since Apr-7-03 · 1179 posts

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Put me down as Tester Number 1 . Southern Pacific will live on forever in the hearts of the Red and Gray Railfans Shane Palus
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smp11512Member since Apr-7-03 · 1179 posts

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And as for a guess on who your working with . I think its 3DPM as you also worked with them for the rolling stock and some locos for the Cajon Pass and Tehachapi Pass 2 addons .Southern Pacific will live on forever in the hearts of the Red and Gray Railfans Shane Palus
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ertfor3Charter Member · 198 posts

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Great looking locomotive !! I have one question. Will you have to pay for the route to get the Cab-forward, or will you be offering it as a stand alone download? Happy Rails Patrick

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JonatanCharter Member · 1204 posts

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OK, whether it is free or not I will have that locomotive!!!Money saving will commence now!/JonatanSteam rules!3D Train Stuff: 3DTS throws hat into the US Steam arena – image 20

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johninchicagoCharter Member · 307 posts

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Absolutely wonderful Brad!I've been wishing for a cab forward ever since I got my copy of MSTS just after it was released.Beautiful work, which of course isn't surprising.When can I buy one?

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muskokaandtahoeMember since Apr-8-03 · 261 posts

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FWIW, if you turn the engine around and redo the cab, front deck, and fuel lines you'll have a fairly close approximation of WP's 251 class of locomotives. Think about it -- could be a quick way to a 2nd product.Dave NelsonWP track, Oakland-Radum: 90% complete; Radum-Stockton: 5% complete
SP track, West Oakland: 75% complete; Oakland-Stockton: 0%
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OTTODADCharter Member · 2732 posts

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Great Stuff, but what else is one to expect from 3D Ttrains ! The Valve gear is simply superb ! Can't wait to see it in motion. Big Boy next ?One question, will the Chuff-Chuff be properly synchronised with the rotation of the wheels and not sound like the MSTS default Steam locos ?O t t o

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gp3804Charter Member · 84 posts

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wow, that certainly is a nice looking steam train, any clues as to when it's going to be ready?Jim.

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Cell0518Charter Member · 572 posts

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The age old question will be put to rest. When is the SP Cabforward gonna be released.Chris3D Train Stuff: 3DTS throws hat into the US Steam arena – image 263D Train Stuff: 3DTS throws hat into the US Steam arena – image 27

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smp11512Member since Apr-7-03 · 1179 posts

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Looks Good Brian . I have to find one for my HO Layout . Southern Pacific will live on forever in the hearts of the Red and Gray Railfans Shane Palus
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OTTODADCharter Member · 2732 posts

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RIVAROSSI-HO do a Cab Forward "Southern Pacific", 3 listed with different numbers on the cab, Models R5424, R5430 & R5426.O t t o

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OTTODADCharter Member · 2732 posts

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How do they keep adding coal, the tender being at the other end, or are the using oil ?O t t o

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smp11512Member since Apr-7-03 · 1179 posts

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I belive it was an Oil Burner . Southern Pacific will live on forever in the hearts of the Red and Gray Railfans Shane Palus
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storkelsMember since Apr-15-03 · 68 posts

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SP steam is my true love. Any route, Tehachapis, Donner, Cascades, Modoc, etc. would just be fantastic!Wonderful!Steve

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bwferCharter Member · 261 posts

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As a footnote to the above discussion... When the first cabforwards were put into service, a problem developed... when the oil level in the tender dropped a little and the engine was pulling up grade, the oil would no longer flow the length of the engine to the burner in the firebox. The problem was quickly and cleverly solved by internally bracing the oil tank, making it airtight, and pressuring it (about 5psi) which insured a constant oil flow to the burner. This and the oil heater account for all of the plumbing visible on the front of the cab forward's tender.Water was no problem with the feedwater heater cold water pump below the rear deck well below the water tank of the tender. A Nathan non-lifting injector was located on the fireman's side at the base of the cab ladder, again being below the water level in the tender.

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smp11512Member since Apr-7-03 · 1179 posts

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What would have happened if they would have done the same thing for the Oil that they did for the Water ?Southern Pacific will live on forever in the hearts of the Red and Gray Railfans Shane Palus
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bwferCharter Member · 261 posts

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At normal temperature Bunker C Crude which almost all SP steam engines used has the consistency of tar and must be heated to flow, it is atomized at the burner using steam.That being said; the time period for the first SP mallets/cabforwards is 1909-1910. At that time steam driven turbo pumps were not even thought of. Feedwater was put into the boiler using steam injectors... these injectors could be either lifting or non-lifting... so there was never a problem getting water to the injectors and into the boiler. Bottom line what worked for water could not be used for oil in a cab forward type of locootive where the oil must flow the length of engine to the firebox burner. There is no problem with a conventional loco as it is a short distance from the oil tank to the burner which is lower than the tank and gravity does the job. This expanation is somewhat oversimplified, but I hope you get the drift.

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3DRailHoundCharter Member · 311 posts

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Hi folks,Thank you for all of the kind comments, and like I said, look for an update on our website soon In the meantime, Keep'em on the high irons!Best regards,
Brad Brownwww.3DTrainStuff.com

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pacmancreatorMember since Jul-23-02 · 966 posts

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>At normal temperature Bunker C Crude which almost all SP
>steam engines used has the consistency of tar and must be
>heated to flow, it is atomized at the burner using steam. Yes, this is kinda OT, but the Island Queen of Cincinnati fame (which used bunker C Crude) blew up in Pittsburg because the chief engineer (who didnt' know the fuel was active) decided to weld on the front deck, right over where the fuel was.Needless to say, people around the waterfront district had thought an atomic bomb had gone off! But, had the fuel been in its unheated state, would the boat still have exploded?Just thought I'd share that with y'all.And great lookin' engine by the way!-You can never have too much inner beauty. Or socks.
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Derby415Charter Member · 242 posts

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Oh HELL YA! Will she be sporting custom sounds and a custom cabview?

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Jim
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smp11512Member since Apr-7-03 · 1179 posts

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Almost everything that comes from 3dtrainstuff does Southern Pacific will live on forever in the hearts of the Red and Gray Railfans Shane Palus
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OTTODADCharter Member · 2732 posts

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Hi 3DChuffWoof Brad ! Nobody has answered my question yet whether your new Steam Locos will CHUFF synchronised with the rotation of the wheels as the real ones do ? One CHUFF per quarter turn of the driving wheels ?O t t o

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Adam3291Charter Member · 1014 posts

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Nice start to the AC12, from looking at pictures and models u guys still got a lot of modeling left to do on that locomotive with detail items etc. Will there be any 4-6-2's or 4-8-2's to come along with this route? LOL Hopefully the 2-8-8-4 maybe, pretty much a backwards cab forward.Adam

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chieftedusMember since Apr-7-03 · 28 posts

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Brad,You guys are killing me...and wearing out the credit card.
Excellent work once again

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Derby415Charter Member · 242 posts

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So What is the latest with this locomotive. Is there a release date in the near future?? I seriously cannot wait another day without that locomotive. Can we have an update?

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